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Did Noah Go Through Flood in Wooden Submarine?
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Posted on 10/30/2003 1:04:06 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000

Did Noah Go Through Flood in Wooden Submarine? - 10/30/2003 16:02

A Russian expedition managed to discover remains of the legendary ark

Within the past years, results of aero and space photography have proved that there is some wooden construction in the glacier on the top of the Ararat mountain. This huge construction looks very much like an ark. But as Turks (as is known, the Ararat mountain is situated on the territory of Turkey) do not allow foreigners to this part of the country, it has not been yet found out what the construction is in fact.

At the beginning of autumn, a Russian expedition visited for the first time the region where Noah's Ark might have been situated on the Ararat Mountain. Leader of the expedition Andrey Polyakov tells about the details of the expedition.

I took fancy to Noah's story when studied the Turkish language at the Institute of Asian and African Studies. I have been colleting information for many years, those were unclear photos taken from satellites and planes and stories told by eyewitnesses. I compared them with literary sources of the ancient people of Shumer and Accad, with mentioning of the ark in the Old Testament.

According to some estimates, the Flood occurred 13 thousand years ago, others state that it was 7.5 thousand or 4.5 thousand years ago which was certainly absolute confusion. I am perfectly sure that the Flood actually happened and Noah's Ark existed. The first Russian expedition consisting of about 150 people came to the Ararat Mountain in 1916. A report of the expedition supplied with photos was lost in St.Petersburg during the revolution.

Ten years ago I appealed to the Turkish Embassy for the first time and requested to allow me to the Ararat Mountain. I am a journalist by profession and have shot much material about Turkey. Due to this work, I was allowed to visit the closed territory.

The Neizvestnaya Planeta (Unknown Planet) TV company that organized the expedition managed to appropriate financing only for four members of the expedition, two TV operators and two journalists.

Before we ascended Ararat, we visited several places in the foothill that were also connected with the Noah legend. Ancient Armenians used unusually huge plates as gravestones on their graves and engraved crosses on them. In fact, these plates are anchor stones that had been used as dead weight for ships centuries ago. Archeologists discover many stones of this kind in the Mediterranean Sea. But at the bottom of the mountain the stones are 1.5-2 times bigger (2.5-3 to 1.5 meters). This is logic to suppose that a ship that used the anchor stones was much bigger than usual ones.

- Did you see the ark itself?

Yes, we were to the place where it is situated. The object that is supposedly called Noah's Ark is not on the mountain itself but 30 kilometers away from Ararat. Even the Bible says the ark moored not to the Ararat Mountain itself but to Ararat mountains. A huge construction of fossilized wood resembles a yacht with a deck of a football field size. The biggest anchor stones are situated in a different place; the number of stones is big enough to suppose there might have been entire flotilla of ships.

Kurds living in the place say that in 1948 the area suffered an earthquake; witnesses say that during the shocks the ship was squeezed from under the surface. Suddenly, the whole of the place was lit with bright light.

Nowadays, the body of the ark is divided into two parts with a piece of rock. It towers about two meters above the surface, the rest of the body is concealed. But we need opinion of researchers to prove that it is actually Noah's Ark.

My opinion is that the ark must look like a submarine. A vessel resembling a yacht would have turned upside-down during the Flood. By the way, ancient Shumers have a description of the ark; according to the description, a model resembling a submarine was made in then 16th century.

To put an end to the searches for Noah's Ark, it is necessary to examine two more points that researchers mention. Next year, we plan to organize an international expedition to the place. Turks, Armenians, Americans and Russians will ascend the Ararat Mountain from four sides. This will allow to examine the mountain in detail which will dispel all myths concerning Noah's Ark.

The Ararat Mountain has quite a severe temper. There is a legend saying that Saint Jacob heard angels saying that the ark would reveal itself to people only when God wanted it to. In fact, Ararat is a volcanic mountain and evolves gas at a very high altitude. This gas provokes high-altitude sickness. Three members of the expedition suffered the sickness. One of us was hit with the sickness when he conquered the peak. The man stopped recognizing other people.

So, there is quite a scientific explanation to the fact why many expeditions failed to achieve success on Ararat.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: blacksea; blackseaflood; greatflood; noahsark; noahsflood; russia; submarine; turkey

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1 posted on 10/30/2003 1:04:07 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Was Joseph his XO.......
2 posted on 10/30/2003 1:05:06 PM PST by cmsgop ( "Love For Sale",.."Yummy Appetizing Love For Sale")
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Noah's "Yellow Submarine"

3 posted on 10/30/2003 1:05:36 PM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Did Noah Go Through Flood in Wooden Submarine?

Well, not on purpose!
4 posted on 10/30/2003 1:05:41 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Actually it was a large hovercraft...like the Navy uses.
5 posted on 10/30/2003 1:14:38 PM PST by milan
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I always thought it was a cool photo:


6 posted on 10/30/2003 1:20:05 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: buffyt
Paging Zecchariah Sitchen!
7 posted on 10/30/2003 1:24:14 PM PST by Savage Beast ("'Liberalism' is a quagmire." ~Floyd Geron Looney~)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
"We all live in a wooden submarine (boomp), wooden submarine (boomp), wooden submarine..."
8 posted on 10/30/2003 1:25:30 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I thought that site has been discredited as a possible remains of Noah's ark.
9 posted on 10/30/2003 1:29:29 PM PST by The Man
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To: Rebelbase
Wow, what an achievement! 100,000+ species of earthly animals, all that necessary food and water, not to mention the numnber of shovels needed to keep it clean. What a boat, what a crew!
10 posted on 10/30/2003 1:30:58 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary will you run today?)
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To: Poohbah
Wah, wah, wah.
11 posted on 10/30/2003 1:32:34 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Bringbackthedraft
You forgot this: /sarcasm
"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers... 2Peter 3:3

12 posted on 10/30/2003 1:35:27 PM PST by evets (Warning: graphic images.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
dude................
13 posted on 10/30/2003 1:51:41 PM PST by pctech
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To: evets
Matthew 24:38-39 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (KJV)
14 posted on 10/30/2003 1:52:44 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Bringbackthedraft
If you allow for a little speciation through subtraction of info, make it more like 14,000 kinds of non-aquatic mammals, reptiles, and birds. Bugs and tiny stuff can float on dead trees.
15 posted on 10/30/2003 2:07:04 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Bringbackthedraft
If you allow for a little speciation through subtraction of info, make it more like 14,000 kinds of non-aquatic mammals, reptiles, and birds. Bugs and tiny stuff can float on dead trees.
16 posted on 10/30/2003 2:07:04 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Bringbackthedraft
If you allow for a little speciation through subtraction of info, make it more like 14,000 kinds of non-aquatic mammals, reptiles, and birds. Bugs and tiny stuff can float on dead trees.
17 posted on 10/30/2003 2:07:05 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Bringbackthedraft
If you allow for a little speciation through subtraction of info, make it more like 14,000 kinds of non-aquatic mammals, reptiles, and birds. Bugs and tiny stuff can float on dead trees.
18 posted on 10/30/2003 2:07:49 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Bringbackthedraft
With all the water around them I doubt they needed to carry much water - depends upon what kind of water flooded the earth.
19 posted on 10/30/2003 2:13:38 PM PST by 3Lean
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To: Bringbackthedraft
If you allow for a little speciation through subtraction of info, make it more like 14,000 kinds of non-aquatic mammals, reptiles, and birds. Bugs and tiny stuff can float on dead trees.
20 posted on 10/30/2003 2:13:52 PM PST by Ahban
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I couldn't even imagine the animal flatulence in a wooden submarine.
21 posted on 10/30/2003 2:18:02 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: Ahban
We heard you already.
22 posted on 10/30/2003 2:18:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Poohbah
"We all live in a wooden submarine (boomp), wooden submarine (boomp), wooden submarine..."

And our friends, are all a board

Many more of them, live next door

And the band, begins to play

23 posted on 10/30/2003 2:22:01 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I hear people say the flood is the Straits of Gibraltar or the Istanbull Straits that led to the flood. I tend to believe one of these theories.
24 posted on 10/30/2003 2:25:31 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I am perfectly sure that the Flood actually happened and Noah's Ark existed

If so, there was more than one. Another, similar incident happened in what is now Pakistan. Maybe it was just a farm family and some livestock, but apparently the ride was E-ticket.

25 posted on 10/30/2003 2:26:10 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Rebelbase
Thats a lot of cubits!
26 posted on 10/30/2003 2:39:34 PM PST by Jumpmaster
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To: sonsofliberty2000
"So, there is quite a scientific explanation to the fact why many expeditions failed to achieve success on Ararat."

Yes, there is- because there never WAS an Ark. The story, like many in the Bible, is an allegory, not a literal account of historical events.

27 posted on 10/30/2003 2:52:28 PM PST by RANGERAIRBORNE ("My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me"- Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: evets
Would you be interested in a perpertual-motion brick I have for sale? How about a Yeti pelt? I got them from the Elohim.
28 posted on 10/30/2003 2:54:24 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Pahuanui
A wise man once asked me, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
I thought for a minute, then I slapped him across the face. That got him off my back.

29 posted on 10/30/2003 2:59:35 PM PST by evets (Warning: graphic images.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
The Christian faith teaches us of three “arks”, three containers of Infinity and Life : Noah’s Ark, The Ark of the Covenant, and the Virgin Mary. The Ark of the Covenant was just a golden box — but it somehow contained within it the presence of God Himself. In this it was a type of the Blessed Virgin, who also contained within her finite human body the Infinity of the Word.

So, what about the first ark, Noah’s Ark? How did all those animals and their food and Noah’s family fit inside a mere wooden boat? I don’t know — but maybe Noah’s Ark was more than just a wooden boat. Maybe — like the Ark of the Covenant and the “ark” of our Lady’s womb — it was bigger on the inside than on the outside, and contained all of Life within.

31 posted on 10/30/2003 3:15:22 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Savage Beast
HEY I LOVE SITCHEN MOST LOGICAL Argument i have read in a while..Makes you say HMMM!!!!!
32 posted on 10/30/2003 3:20:30 PM PST by DAPFE8900
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To: Rebelbase
OMG! Is that really a picture of whatever is on Mt Ararat?
33 posted on 10/30/2003 3:24:39 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ahban
Why weren't the fish and sea creatures put on the ark, too? /sarcasm
34 posted on 10/30/2003 3:26:40 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Too bad Noah forgot to include hundreds of thousands of species that must have drowned. He didn't follow God's command very well at all.
35 posted on 10/30/2003 3:27:50 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Ha,ha. Yes and I'll bet the large carnivorous animals got along just swell with the weaker non-carnivorous ones. Probably unfair to point out the contradictions in these bible stories.
36 posted on 10/30/2003 3:33:19 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: No Blue States
Matthew 24:38-39 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (KJV)

Yep, and some people think it will be a 'rapture'. But, it's not!!!!

37 posted on 10/30/2003 3:50:09 PM PST by ET(end tyranny) ( Deuteronomy 32:37 -- And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,)
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To: DAPFE8900
I like him too, can't ignore his ideas. He's been saying the Ark was a wooden submarine.
38 posted on 10/30/2003 3:57:42 PM PST by Savage Beast ("'Liberalism' is a quagmire." ~Floyd Geron Looney~)
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To: DAPFE8900
I haven't read any of Sitchen's books, though I have always wanted to. Have you read them all? Do they go in a series or can you read them at random?
39 posted on 10/30/2003 3:59:29 PM PST by ET(end tyranny) ( Deuteronomy 32:37 -- And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Suddenly, the whole of the place was lit with bright light.

So, it must still be lit with a bright, unexplainable light, or we have to conclude that God has a relatively short attention span given the eternal nature of things.

Either that, or the report was bogus to begin with.

40 posted on 10/30/2003 8:07:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
2004 - staged race to Mars, real race to Ararat
41 posted on 01/05/2004 7:39:59 AM PST by Truth666
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