Husband in Right to Die Case Moves to Block Parents in New Trial

Tampa Bay Online ^ | Nov 3, 2003 | A P

[ZAKJAN]

I suggest that "Deep_6_

Deep six his propaganda, feed his wife, dump his girlfriend, and divorce the wife if necessary to move on with his life.

Nice try...

Jan

[Giddyupgo]

How beautifully said! and so true.

[pickyourpoison]

Is there any way for this case to moved out of Pinellas County?

[pickyourpoison]

He wants Terri immediatly cremated. That makes me wonder if a medical exam would show abuse as being cause for her condition.

[pickyourpoison]

I'm hoping Jeb is getting some, behind the scenes, help from his brother too.

[pickyourpoison]

This law is in many states. I believe it's in place in Va.
That's where Hugh Finn was starved.
His case is very simular to Terri's

[ChemistCat]

Wow, the first time I read that I thought you were flaming me, and then I saw who you are!

[Deep_6]

There appears to be an overwhelming amount of emotions
interfering with thinking processes. This phenomenon is
usually noticed among liberals, but rarely among the
more conservative branches.

If those that want to assume that Terri has the full capability
to experience sound, sight, and thought...... They must also
consider that Terri can not now, or ever will, respond to
that stimuli. That is fact. Without a cerebral cortex, only
involuntary actions are possible. There is no possibility for
voluntary actions to take place. That is medical fact.

Read on:

Terri has remained sustained in a lifeless form for 13 years.

Had it not been for a life support system inserted 13 years ago,
her soul would have already passed and be resting. Her loving
parents have fought every attempt across a 13 year period, to
have that apparatus removed.

It is not as simple as "Terri can not feed herself", or "Terri's
only problem is she can't eat". Terri has lost all her ability to
be able to respond to any stimuli.

The court had ordered 5 doctor's opinions. 2 paid for by Terri's
parents; 2 paid for by her husband; 1 court appointed, paid by
tax dollars. The court appointed independent physician concurred
with two others. The remaining two dissenting, found that there
"may be some hope for some possible improvement.

All physician's concluded, that Terri can not hear, see or have
voluntary movement.

Let's disregard all that [since most of the posters appear to anyway],
and look at matters from their standpoint:

They appear to strongly "feel" that Terri can hear, see, understand
and think. Even though absolutely no medically corroborating evidence
has ever been presented at any time over 13 years that Terri can
respond to any stimulus, some "feel" that she has.

Can those people imagine what it might be like, to see, hear, 
understand and think, but be totally unable [for over 13 years]
to be able to display that? To lie in state without any possibility
to converse in any manner? It would be akin to being buried alive.

Can those hoping to extend the time Terri must remain in a
lifeless shell, imagine keeping her inside a coffin....indefinitely?

That was what the court had to decide; when is enough, enough?
When is it time to allow a soul to pass? When is it time to allow
her guardian to make that choice for her, or should that choice be
made at all?

Terri's husband was never charged or called as witness in
any suit or action regarding to the alleged mistreatment of
his wife Terri.

Was it ever considered, that if the husband could be charged,
the hateful parents and family would have made the charge
legally and formally, sometime over the 13 year period?

Does it ever enter the minds of those that whine so loudly,
that no court of law, will consider an act that will terminate
a life, easily? That all issues, even that of removing a possible
hostile guardian, would be considered prior to it's decision?

To read in post after post, that Terri's husband is evil, the
court is evil, the doctors citing Terri's irreversible condition
are evil, and anyone/everyone that considers Terri's right
to death.... is evil... Is sheer lunacy at it's best.

The medical facts are there and the selfish hopes and dreams
of a very loving family are there, both for consideration.

It's Terri; It's a soul trapped in a lifeless body, that should
be considered.

And it's being overlooked by well meaning, but misguided
individuals.

May your Lord have mercy.

 

 

[US admirer]

That your imagination is limited, does not surprise me one wit madam. Why don't you get back to those transfat-laden cookies that you apparently relish so much, that you imagine yourself as one.

[freeparoundtheclock]

How dare a loving family try to spare their daughter's life? (sarcasm tag).

WHAT UGLY MINIONS ARE FIGHTING AGAINST TERRI. SICKOS...

[GYPSY286]

Michael - is that you? Do you think if you just keep repeating this mantra, we'll start to believe it? We are Freepers here, not Sheeple. Besides, should I believe what you are spewing or believe my "lying" eyes when I watch the videos?

[freeparoundtheclock]

What are the chances that if Terri lives, MICHAEL SCHIAVO WILL FILE A LEGAL MALPRACTICE SUIT V. FELOS to get his 500K back? What goes around comes around.

[wisconsinconservative]

I believe you have this quote on your "about page"

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

What part of "Thou shalt not kill" don't you understand???

[isatoi]

So if these are the facts, WHY won't her husband give up his rights and allow the parents the oppourtunity to give Terri rehabilitaion efforts?????? If there is no chance that she will ever awake and talk, Why is he so worried?????If the Parents are allowed to TRY to rehabilitate and see then that she can not recover then so be it. But what is wrong with letting them have the oppourtunity to try to rehabilitate her?

[Mamzelle]

Hey--that's a cool idea!

[freeparoundtheclock]

A little bird told me they're reviewing Felos' book while we speak. Look for excerpts at Free Republic in the near future.

People who believe they have supernatural "powers" should not be practicing law, imo. Greetings, freeper friends. apparently, my picture's in a Pennsylvania newspaper with floriduh voter. Anyone know the Philly papers?

[wisconsinconservative]

Repost:

"When I Woke Up..."; Hope for Terri Schiavo
Terrisfight.org ^ | unknown | Rus Cooper-Dowda


Posted on 08/25/2003 7:53 PM PDT by yhwhsman


"When I Woke Up..."
by Rus Cooper-Dowda


In February of 1985, I woke up in a hospital bed in Boston, MA. I couldn't see very well and I couldn't move much -- but boy could I ever hear!


I heard a terrifying discussion then that I will never, ever forget.


Around the end of my bed were a "school" of doctors in their white coats, planning when to disconnect my ventilator and feeding tube. I immediately started screaming, "I'm here!!" No one but me heard me.


They did notice my sudden agitation. They heavily sedated me. For a time, every time I woke up I would make as much noise and move as a much as I could to show them I was "in there."


And they would, in response, heavily sedate me...


I then started spelling the same word in the air, "Don't! Don't! Don't!...."


The doctors decided that the letters I was spelling in the air were repetitive seizure activity and just happened to occur most often when they were in my room discussing killing me...I even took to writing them backwards to make it easy for them to read...


And their response was to sedate me even more....


But, the nursing staff began to believe I was really and truly with them.


One, in particular, starting bringing in a clipboard and a broken pen when she talked to me. She would put ink on my fingers, the clipboard under my right hand and then ask me yes and no questions in the beginning.


With her I secretly progressed to answering in sentence fragments. However, by doctor's orders she was not allowed to document in my file what she was doing and that I was giving meaningful responses.


But...she did save my inky answer sheets and recorded the questions she asked. She got into a lot of trouble for that.


Yet, it earned me a final conference where the doctors had to prove to the nursing staff for political reasons that all my communication was just agitation and seizures.


At that meeting, my then husband, who was a doctor siding with the other doctors who wanted to let me die, held that clipboard which was my lifeline up in the air in front of me. He was not going to make it easy.


The purpose was to prove that the nurses were basically hallucinating and that I was really and truly brain-dead.


To prove I could not communicate, he then put ink on my fingers and asked while laughing, "There isn't anything you want to tell us, is there?"


In response I spelled out, "D-I-V-O-R-C-E Y-O-U!" The laughter got very nervous then. The doctors called for medication because I was obviously having a seizure.


Then the nurse who used the board first with me said, "Let me try" and "What do you need to tell us today?"


I spelled out, "D-I-V-O-R-C-E H-I-M!!!!"


There was never a questions after that about whether I was "in there' or not.


Then they said I couldn't breath on my own -- and I could.
Then they said I couldn't learn to eat again on my own -- and I did.
Then they said therapy wasn't important -- and it was.
Then they said I would be dead within a year -- in 1985 -- this is 2003...
They also said I would never have meaningful mental function again -- yet I earned another Master's degree only a few years later.


Here's the real medical corker though --
They also said at the time that I was permanently sterile. That was a cause of great grief for me then, as I had very much wanted to bear and raise a child.


But, it turned out my son, who is here at this service today, was born at the end of that year.


It turned out that I was actually pregnant at the very moment they were telling me I was sterile -- a simple test at the time could have established that.


A test they didn't think they needed to do -- so they didn't.


My point is that the medical and legal staff of that world-renown hospital were wrong and didn't listen and made startling assumptions about the quality of life for the disabled community I had joined.


In their eyes, I only had two options then -- full recovery and a lovely hospice death. I did spend time in a hospice against my will fighting to get to my OB-GYN appointments -- but that is the stuff of another story.


Leave it to say that it was beyond them that most of us -- especially the disabled community -- live full lives in between physical perfection and death.


To borrow a current phase, we are here today because of that "Middle Earth." I live there, as does Terri, all other people with disabilities, their family, supporters and friends.


Even those doctors who were so sure Max and I could not possibly be here today will live in that land between perfect health and death if they last long enough -- that is, if they don't do themselves in out of fear that someone else will have to help them someday. Then will they ever be surprised at how much love and joy and life there is for the asking in that "Middle Earth" of the disabled community....


And therefore how much love and joy and life there is to celebrate here today...

[US admirer]

Like I said: "It is about their beliefs and what they have been told to think by their Sunday schools and pastors." Thank you for supporting my assertion. Try thinking for yourself sometime instead of parroting your religious hand me downs. We all know what you believe, or should I say, have been told to believe already.

[TaxRelief]

What is your evidence that Terri is in a vegetative state?

[TaxRelief]

His "friend" may turn out to be an alter ego, or a dead relative, or an attorney, or a living trust for his kids or something in another country.