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Are the Simpsons Conservative or Liberal
THE KMC BLOG ^ | 11.4.2003

Posted on 11/04/2003 7:29:57 PM PST by KMC1

Ok, I know that I am extremely late to the party...but I have to admit it...I have become a hardened fan of (bite lip and hope for the best) - "The Simpsons". I had never watched on a regular basis for the majority of the time that they had been on the air. Then I interviewed the author of "The Gospel According to the Simpsons" last year. The interview was ok as interviews go but in the author's telling of HOW the episode is put together each week fascinated me. Each epsiode take possibly up to 3 years to put together. Most episodes utilize more than 100 writers and the writing pool is equally divided up: 1/3 Jewish, 1/3 Christian, and 1/3 fill in the blank. The Simpsons, unlike many other TV families do seem to have a profound ability to endure the hardships of life and even underscore some of the most decent of human virtues and values. All that being said, it got me thinking, watching, and now I'm hooked...

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1 posted on 11/04/2003 7:29:58 PM PST by KMC1
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To: KMC1
I love the Simpsons and I would have to put them into the Conservative column. Except for that brat Lisa...

Seriously, I have noticed a rather strong feeling against organized religion though. I don't think it's necessarily against Christianity as a whole but several episodes I've seen would make me think that way

2 posted on 11/04/2003 7:34:19 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
It's the only sitcom on TV where a family is depicted regularly going to church. There's some poking of fun at religion, not vicious attacks on it.

They poke fun at most everyone. The originator of the concept (Matt Groening) is pretty far left, but he really doesn't have much to do with the show now. I'm sure more of the writers are left of center than right of center, but I don't think the show has an overwhelming lean. It's to the Left of "South Park" though.
3 posted on 11/04/2003 7:37:34 PM PST by John H K
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To: billbears
Oh they are always making fun of Ned Flanders (a Christian) and his family, plus the preacher. I think the Simpsons are easily in the top 3 for comedy.

4 posted on 11/04/2003 7:41:03 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Excuse me for awhile, my tagline is having a tantrum.)
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To: KMC1
Perhaps they are merely iconoclasts?
5 posted on 11/04/2003 7:43:02 PM PST by Fifth Business
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To: jwh_Denver
Oh they are always making fun of Ned Flanders (a Christian) and his family

Yeah but Ned, Rod, and Todd are asking for it.

6 posted on 11/04/2003 7:51:28 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: WackyKat
C'mon guys.. their Libertarians!! HAHA . One of my fav shows!
7 posted on 11/04/2003 7:54:17 PM PST by tray-sea (I think Mother Theresa just created her first miracle! Terri is ALIVE for now!)
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To: tray-sea
Yeah but Ned, Rod, and Todd are asking for it.

Yeah, way way too goody two shoes for me too.
8 posted on 11/04/2003 7:56:12 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Excuse me for awhile, my tagline is having a tantrum.)
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To: KMC1
Are the Simpsons Conservative or Liberal?

Yes.

9 posted on 11/04/2003 7:58:03 PM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: tray-sea
The Simpsons are just the best.
I would love to watch the game with you but the store is open 24 hours and as you can see it takes up most of my time.
10 posted on 11/04/2003 7:58:30 PM PST by LittleRedRooster
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To: John H K
I am one of the biggest Simpson's fan on FR. They are equal opportunity offenders. They do poke fun at religion, but spread it out amongst all. Find me another show (other than South Park) will engage in blatant inflamatory language against a religion other than Christianity? And it is done with great humor.

They regularly made fun of Bush 41, and I think those are some of the best episodes ever. Especially the Mr. Plow episode where Bush 41 orders Homer to "plow through" to protestors to clear a path. Or when he was Homer's neighbor.

But the episodes with Clinton were full of absolute mocking and ridicule of him.

Now South Park is a full blow, libertarian/conservative cartoon who spares nothing in going after the left. Sure, the right winger gets mocked as well, but most often, at the end of the day our side wins out.

Their absolute assault on the left is great. From Easter Bunny Reno, to Sexual Harrassment Panda. And let us not forget the classic Mecha-Striesand episodes or the "Crips" episode on stem cell research, which nuked Christopher Reeves. And the new classic, Crab People!

Family Guy is another outstanding cartoon. As if Futurama.

11 posted on 11/04/2003 8:00:43 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: KMC1
But what about Batman? Does the fantasy character adhere to the fantasy libertarian ideology?
12 posted on 11/04/2003 8:02:09 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: KMC1
I always thought they leaned conservative but one of the shows; I think it was on one of the Tree House of Horror episodes (Halloween).
It had the aliens leaving and with what sounded like a voice over of Bart saying, "Don't forget to take Ken Starr". I think it was a voice over since it was from a long shot, he definitely said it.

Even though they had an episode that had Homer jumping a shark on a motorcycle, they're still one of the funniest shows on TV. I lost a little respect when they killed off Maude, though.
13 posted on 11/04/2003 8:02:25 PM PST by Lx (Wanted badly, PIX software version 5.1 or a 16mb flash card for a 520. Can you say desperate?)
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To: KMC1
First of all, it is a cartoon comedy, and it is also fiction.

Aside from that, how a comedy producer/writer/actor handles certain basic american issues does reflect his conservative/liberal/commie views.

In particular, the gun issue.

I saw very similar parallells with how guns were portrayed in The Simpsons, with how it was handled in "All in the FAmily". We all know that the producer, writers, and the actors and actresses on All In The Family were all liberal anti-gun.

Another example of liberal anti gunners was the TV show Bonanaza, where the liberal anti gunner liberal writers and producers and actors(including anti gun Canadian Lorne Greene) refused to let cast members wear gun belts with bullets showing. Look at those old shows, and you will see that none of the Cartrights, or anybody else on the show, had any bullets for their guns.

Therefore, I conclude, that the Simpsons are equally liberal.

Lots of comedies can be funny without attacking basic american institutions/values: Ozzie and Harriet, (Walt)Disney shows and comic books, I Love Lucy, The Andy Griffith Show, etc

14 posted on 11/04/2003 8:06:59 PM PST by waterstraat
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To: tray-sea
C'mon guys.. their Libertarians!! HAHA . One of my fav shows!

There was one episode with a scene where they were outside this private Objectivist preschool, and the banner in the window read, "A is for A." Which is funny only if you've read your Ayn Rand.

15 posted on 11/04/2003 8:08:24 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: KMC1
The Simpsons is a great show because nobody is exempt from ridicule. Mayor Quimby is obviously patterned after Teddy Kennedy, and is a frequent target. Religion, and capitalists like Mr. Burns also takes their hits. Because they are an equal opportunity offender, they are in their own way, fair and balanced.
16 posted on 11/04/2003 8:08:32 PM PST by fhayek
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To: KMC1
Homer goes to church and owns guns.
17 posted on 11/04/2003 8:09:14 PM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: billbears
Especially that Holy Roller's team!


18 posted on 11/04/2003 8:09:45 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Phantom Lord
But the episodes with Clinton were full of absolute mocking and ridicule of him.

If anyone knows where I can get some Tang it would be President Clinton.

19 posted on 11/04/2003 8:10:51 PM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: KMC1
Homer is definitely conservative.
20 posted on 11/04/2003 8:11:13 PM PST by John Lenin (I don't believe in miracles, I rely upon them)
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To: Phantom Lord
<*ding*>Winner!

Summarizes my take on these shows perfectly.

Craaaab peeeeple! roflol
21 posted on 11/04/2003 8:12:40 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: billbears
I always thought it was kind of sympathetic towards Christianity -- although I haven't watched it that much recently.
22 posted on 11/04/2003 8:13:11 PM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: billbears
I love the Simpsons and I would have to put them into the Conservative column. Except for that brat Lisa...


Lisa is simply the one who would have no heart if not a liberal when she is under 20...
23 posted on 11/04/2003 8:15:54 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Lx
Maude's voice quit so they either killed her or changed her voice. I think the episode she died is one of the best.
24 posted on 11/04/2003 8:16:49 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: JoeSchem
They were at the Ayn Rand Daycare Center.
25 posted on 11/04/2003 8:20:18 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: fhayek
Diamond Joe Quimby is JFK.
26 posted on 11/04/2003 8:21:22 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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They are an equal opportunity offender...but I loved the one where Clinton is waltzing down the street playing sax, and Moe hollers.."Hey Clinton..get back to work!!" to which the sinkmiester respondes "Make me!" LOL awww its funny cuz its true!
27 posted on 11/04/2003 8:22:52 PM PST by mylife
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To: KMC1
I think the Simpson's lean to the right

I used to be a fan but the show has gotten stale, They should have killed it 5 years ago
28 posted on 11/04/2003 8:23:35 PM PST by qam1 (Don't Patikify New Jersey)
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To: Tribune7
I would say The Simpson's is sympathetic toward faith.
29 posted on 11/04/2003 8:24:01 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: KMC1
A few years ago David Horowitz published a new political spectrum on one of his websites (can't remember where now). It pointed out far right, far left, liberal conservative etc for things like magazines, politicians and so on so that there would be a better appreciation for who and what is where on the political spectrum.

One of the things they did was take characters from the Simpsons and put them on this chart. So that Far Left=Homer's mom, Liberal=Lisa, Moderate=Marge, Conservative=Homer, Far Right=Monty Burns.

30 posted on 11/04/2003 8:26:02 PM PST by 91B (Golly it's hot.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Quimby is much more corrupt than JFK. And I could just picture him with a cervical collar around his neck while testifying before the grand jury....
31 posted on 11/04/2003 8:27:09 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek
Yes, he is more corrupt. But his voice, and lust for women is JFK, ballot box stuffing, and his wife is Jackie. Pill box hat and all.
32 posted on 11/04/2003 8:31:08 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: fhayek
Ahh! The Family Guy that is a parody of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is on Cartoon Network now. This show is an almost perfect parody. Love it!
33 posted on 11/04/2003 8:32:36 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: KMC1
my two cents..the Simpsons are one of the funniest shows to ever air..they have shown some incredible depth concerning religion..during the early 90's Homer decided that he did not want to go to church and just lounge around the house..and the episode showed that it was wrong..and in the end..his house caught on fire and that he was saved by an all volunteer fire squad consisting of a Christian(Flanders), a Jew (Krusty)..and others (Apu..Hindu)..and this is pointed out to him by his minister..something you don't see on prime time tv..however..they did slip a bit when pathetically the flanders were made the guardians of the Simpson kids and found out that they were not baptized..I know there are different producers..but that did not reconcile with the earlier episodes...
34 posted on 11/04/2003 8:33:46 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: Tribune7
I always thought it was kind of sympathetic towards Christianity

The Simpsons, like South Park and King of the Hill, are smart enough to make fun of everything, while at the same time treating their subjects with some respect.

For example, even when they satirize some of the easier targets in organized religion or worship, they also have taken care to have scenes where Ned's religion is shown as noble and uplifting (even to Homer at times).

35 posted on 11/04/2003 8:36:46 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: KMC1
i saw the show where Marge Simpson says "Get back! Honky cat!" ... i howled for minutes
36 posted on 11/04/2003 8:41:44 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Like sittin' on pins and needles, things fall apart, it's scientific.)
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To: Ichneumon
And consider the classic "Homer the Thief" episode.
37 posted on 11/04/2003 8:43:33 PM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: KMC1
I'm sure most of the writers are liberals and the show is more representative of liberalism than conservatism. But it certainly isn't dogmatic. At the end of the day there's no message that the show consistently delivers that most of us here would find particularly offensive. In fact the show is very pro-family at it's heart, even if it's in a way that most culture warriors would probably find unsatisfying.
38 posted on 11/04/2003 8:44:35 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: BerniesFriend; yay


Big Simpsons fan here.
39 posted on 11/04/2003 8:46:10 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: JoeSchem
"A is for A." Which is funny only if you've read your Ayn Rand.

Yep....I busted a gut ovet that one.
Very clever.

40 posted on 11/04/2003 8:47:52 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: KMC1
Speaking of cartoons, the Cartoon Network will air the forgotten episode of "Family Guy" on Sunday night @11:30pm

This episode apparently offended so many people that not even FOX would air it!

While I like the Simpsons, nothing ever made me laugh like Family Guy - talk about equal opportunity offenders! I thought that cartoon was brilliant. What other show had a martini drinking dog?!


41 posted on 11/04/2003 8:48:20 PM PST by FlJoePa
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To: Dane
Now South Park is a full blow, libertarian/conservative cartoon who spares nothing in going after the left. Sure, the right winger gets mocked as well, but most often, at the end of the day our side wins out. Their absolute assault on the left is great. From Easter Bunny Reno, to Sexual Harrassment Panda. And let us not forget the classic Mecha-Striesand episodes or the "Crips" episode on stem cell research, which nuked Christopher Reeves. And the new classic, Crab People!

Remember when we were discussing South Park the other day? I'm telling you, you should watch it. You'll like it.

42 posted on 11/04/2003 8:53:36 PM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: FlJoePa
While I like the Simpsons, nothing ever made me laugh like Family Guy - talk about equal opportunity offenders! I thought that cartoon was brilliant. What other show had a martini drinking dog?!

Family Guy is without question the most brilliant cartoon ever produced.

43 posted on 11/04/2003 8:54:48 PM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: Phantom Lord; All
"They are equal opportunity offenders"

Yes, they are that, but the really great thing about The Simpsons is that every dog gets to have his day. Every one is shown to have reason (as they say in Spanish & French too, I think) at some point or another.

And if that Kennedy-esque mayor isn't enough to win them bona-fides out here in VRWC-land, then nothing is.

Oh, yeah, and Kelsey Grammer as the Murderous Side-show Bob singing Pinafore, that was pretty good too.

And then there was the Thanksgiving episode I saw on the re-runs the other day, that actually made me cry, which the Simpsons had never done before. That was really great.
44 posted on 11/04/2003 9:10:24 PM PST by jocon307 (The Simpsons, possibly the greatest TV show of all time.)
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To: KMC1
Simpsons is so intelligently written that, like Dr. Seuss, Pee Wee's Playhouse, MST3K, Dr. Who, Rocky and Bullwinkle, and A Christmas Story, it is capable of being enjoyed by people of all ages.
45 posted on 11/04/2003 9:28:54 PM PST by giotto
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To: waterstraat
I saw very similar parallells with how guns were portrayed in The Simpsons, with how it was handled in "All in the FAmily". We all know that the producer, writers, and the actors and actresses on All In The Family were all liberal anti-gun.

What about the Halloween episode in which Lisa wishes away all of the weapons in the world, and then the aliens come to invade?

The same goes for the Halloween episode in which Homer takes down zombies with a repeating rifle.

Also: when Maggie goes thru the supermarket scanner (in the intro to every episode) the cash register reads "NRA4EVER."

46 posted on 11/04/2003 9:34:17 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: KMC1
I'm with you. For fourteen years, the only two episodes I ever caught were one in which Homer was browbeaten by Marge and made to apologize to a belly dancer for - gasp! - joining her on the floor, thus helping her to make a living; and one that shows Lisa excelling at an all-boys' military academy despite the hoots and jeers of her classmates.

Needless to say, I thought there was some heavy-handed feminism at work, until a friend urged me to give it another shot. At that point, I was introduced to some serious Clinton bashing, and realized how skewed my previous sample had been.

47 posted on 11/05/2003 1:00:14 AM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: KMC1
I'm with you. For fourteen years, the only two episodes I ever caught were one in which Homer was browbeaten by Marge and made to apologize to a belly dancer for - gasp! - joining her on the floor, thus helping her to make a living; and one that shows Lisa excelling at an all-boys' military academy despite the hoots and jeers of her classmates.

Needless to say, I thought there was some heavy-handed feminism at work, until a friend urged me to give it another shot. At that point, I was introduced to some serious Clinton bashing, and realized how skewed my previous sample had been.

48 posted on 11/05/2003 1:00:50 AM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: KMC1
I'm with you. For fourteen years, the only two episodes I ever caught were one in which Homer was browbeaten by Marge and made to apologize to a belly dancer for - gasp! - joining her on the floor, thus helping her to make a living; and one that shows Lisa excelling at an all-boys' military academy despite the hoots and jeers of her classmates.

Needless to say, I thought there was some heavy-handed feminism at work, until a friend urged me to give it another shot. At that point, I was introduced to some serious Clinton bashing, and realized how skewed my previous sample had been.

49 posted on 11/05/2003 1:01:35 AM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: KMC1
OOPS! Sorry about the multiple sends. I kept getting error messages, and thought my posts weren't going through.
50 posted on 11/05/2003 1:05:18 AM PST by Tabi Katz
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