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Woman who came out of long coma on Fox News at 10 pm Eastern - Greta's show
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Posted on 11/05/2003 7:00:56 PM PST by cpforlife.org

I just caught a preview for Greta's show.

Woman who came out of long coma on Fox News at 10 pm Eastern - Greta's show.

I suppose they'll connect to Terri's story?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: foxnews; prolife; terrischiavo
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To: therut
I refuse to comment on these types of cases.

It seems to me that you just did.

you can not judge each case by what you hear on T.V.

That's very true ...... and "what you hear on T.V." includes such things as the fact that Terri is comatose and/or in a vegetative state, is on life support, and other mistaken information.

I thought we supported marriage.

I strongly support marriage .... therefore I find it abhorrent that the "husband" is living with a girlfriend (by whom he has one child already and another on the way) and pulling the ultimate in-your-face stunt by taking that girlfriend to the hospital to see Terri. It seems that he is the one who doesn't see Terri as his wife, to honor and to cherish til death parts them.

I am very sorry about your father. I will remember you in my prayers.

21 posted on 11/05/2003 8:32:45 PM PST by kayak (The Vast, Right-Wing Conspiracy is truly Vast! [JohnHuang2])
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To: RGVTx
Thats true! Thanks.
22 posted on 11/05/2003 8:36:41 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: RGVTx
The husband said he realized she was responsive before the tube was removed, but it took 3 weeks to convince the doctors. She was then hooked back up to the feeding tube and therapy was started. To look at her now, one would never know what she has gone through.

Here's a question .. Why did he have to convince the doctors??

23 posted on 11/05/2003 8:46:19 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Mo1
I can only guess at the answer to your question. So I won't.

Interview is up next.
24 posted on 11/05/2003 8:48:14 PM PST by RGVTx ("France seems to us an aging whore desperate to attract even the most diseased customers.")
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To: cpforlife.org
Sorry folks. I heard just what I wrote in the thread.

I heard it also .. but thought I has missed it since I didn't see it

It's on O'Reilly Show's NOW!!

25 posted on 11/05/2003 8:49:17 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: RGVTx
WOW!!! .. What an interview
26 posted on 11/05/2003 8:54:40 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Mo1
Agreed! Sure makes me want to err on the side of caution.
27 posted on 11/05/2003 8:57:28 PM PST by RGVTx ("France seems to us an aging whore desperate to attract even the most diseased customers.")
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To: RGVTx; Brad's Gramma; All
Woman who was on Bill's show has a website: http://www.katesjourney.com/
28 posted on 11/05/2003 9:05:08 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
Did they follow up with something like "If only Terri would come out of her brain dead coma...?"
29 posted on 11/05/2003 9:07:01 PM PST by Naspino (I am in no way associated with the views expressed in your posts.)
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To: cpforlife.org
Bumping!!!! #28

THANKS!
30 posted on 11/05/2003 9:13:40 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I have a good recipe for Spotted Owl!)
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To: therut
As a physician I can only say you can not judge each case by what you hear on T.V.

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And I am glad I am not your patient and never will be.

31 posted on 11/05/2003 9:18:24 PM PST by RLK
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To: Mo1
See #28.

WHAT a website. WHAT a story....she's got Terri's home page linked to hers.
32 posted on 11/05/2003 9:19:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I have a good recipe for Spotted Owl!)
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To: therut
You can hate all physicians as much as you want to but it will be a cold day in hell that I would want to be in her condition being keep alive by an artificial means with a tube placed surgically outside of my abdomen. And I admit she is probalby not brain dead(from what I have read) but her chances of getting better is 0%.

For the record, I don't hate all physicians .. but I don't think all physicians are correct.

I had a friend, who keep going to her doctor because something wasn't right, she kept getting headaches and dizzy spells. He kept telling her one thing after another. It was an ear infection, she wasn't eating properly, blah blah blah. After some time and not getting the answers she needed, she finally bucked the ins. company and her doctor .. went to another doctor and paid for the visit and test herself. Turns out that she had a brain tumor. but it was to advanced to be operated on and she ended up dying at the age of 28 yrs. old on a Christmas Eve, leaving behind a 2 yr old son and husband.

The point of that story is that not all doctors are correct. In this case far more doctors have stated in their opinion that Terry could be rehabilitated then ones that say she can't. So why not give Terry the rehabilitation to see if it works before trying to kill her?

I may not agree with you on pulling the tube if it was you, but I can respect it. And as an educated person, I am assuming that you have instructions in writing should this occur to you.

Problem here is, Terry didn't leave instructions (unless you believe her husband to be an honest person) .. so should it not fall on the side of caution and let her live before trying to put her to death?

33 posted on 11/05/2003 9:22:58 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Senormechanico
She also was subjected to an operation, didn't get much anesthetic, and felt every part of it. Barbaric.

I've heard about this happening to normal people in surgery....they could feel and hear everything that was going on but they were paralyzed and couldn't do anything. Scarey!

34 posted on 11/05/2003 9:23:54 PM PST by Jorge
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To: cpforlife.org
This woman and her husband are a real inspiration. Saw them on O'Reilly. Hope I get to see it. Thanks for the heads up.
35 posted on 11/05/2003 9:24:57 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: therut
You can hate all physicians as much as you want to but it will be a cold day in hell that I would want to be in her condition being keep alive...

Sorry about your dad, but those like you who have lost a loved one this way are OVERLY eager to justify death in ALL OTHER cases like these.

We don't hate physicians. We LOVE and BELIEVE the 20 or so caring doctors and medical providers who swear under oath Terri RESPONDS, and even TALKS, and CAN get better with treatment.

We BELIEVE the witnesses who say Terri was about to ask her violently abusive and quick tempered husband for a DIVORCE.

We BELIEVE Terri's friend from work who warned her NOT to be home alone when her angry husband got home.

We BELIEVE the medical experts who testify she was most likely STRANGLED that night.

We BELIEVE the husband deliberately withheld ANY treatment or rehab after he won the money, because now, he just wants her dead.

We BELIEVE Terri deserves the DIVORCE she attempted to seek in 1990.

We BELIEVE Terri's parents and siblings love her and wish to take over her care and rehabilitation, even WITHOUT the money.

We BELIEVE Terri's BEST FRIEND Diane Meyer, who says Terri argued ANGRILY in FAVOR of keeping a comatose patient ALIVE, claiming "Where there's life, there's hope"

We BELIEVE Judge Greer is a monster who ignores all other testimony that disagrees with the husband.

We BELIEVE the husband has ordered Terri cremated IMMEDIATELY upon her death WITHOUT an autopsy.

We BELIEVE Terri is the WORST POSSIBLE poster-child for the right-to-die crowd.

36 posted on 11/05/2003 9:35:58 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: Jorge
I've heard about this happening to normal people in surgery....they could feel and hear everything that was going on but they were paralyzed and couldn't do anything. Scarey!

It happens alot with C-sections .. it happened to 2 of my sisters .. one it happened to twice, even though she switched doctors and hostpials, after the first time

37 posted on 11/05/2003 9:36:55 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: FL_engineer
I understand what happened. O'Reilly's first repeat comes on just after Greta's show.

So she was plugging the Shiavo-related story that she KNEW would be on O'Reilly.
38 posted on 11/05/2003 9:43:37 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: therut
The definition of terminal has been perverted by some to include people deemed useless or unworthy of life, instead of just people dying of disease or illness.

I know this and I for sure as heck would not want to be kept alive with a feeding tube under certain circumstances. And I'm sorry but when you marry your spouse is your next of kin under law.Conservatives are crapping in their own pampers wanting the GOVERNMENT to decide life and death decisions.

You're making a common mistake. You're trying to apply your wishes to her life. Sure you might not want to live that way, and you might not believe that anyone would. But, what bearing does that have in regards to Terri's wishes? She made had no advanced directive. Which brings us to your statement about marriage. Setting aside the fact that the husband has extramarital interests that cloud his judgement as a guardian, Terri has rights. Rights are not nullified by marriage.

It is a contradiction we hear so often that Terri's right to die is being infringed upon with no mention of her individual right to life not to be denied by disability, as protected by the Florida Constitution. Being human and with rights, with no advanced directive, and not being terminally ill, for Terri to die requires intervention; i.e. someone has to kill her. This goes against the state law that disallows euthanasia. This is because this isn't about her right to die, but her husband's hope to have a right to kill her.

This is not about conservatives wanting government intervention in deciding life or death. The conservative in us is fighting a poorly written right-to-die law that is allowing some to pervert it into a tool for killing others. A right to die does not equal another's right to kill. The conservative opinion recognizes the sanctity of life and an individual's rights, including that of life.
39 posted on 11/05/2003 9:48:27 PM PST by kenth (Terri is human. Her life is no less valuable than yours or mine.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Thanks .. WOW!
40 posted on 11/05/2003 9:50:54 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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