Big Government Republicans Rule?

Mens News daily ^ | November 23, 2003 | Gary W. Aldrich

[North Coast Conservative]

OK, what do we do about it? How can we be an influence in our own party? Will the big spenders notice if we stay home when our agenda items are not addressed?

Or, will we trail to the polls like the sheeple that they think we are, and vote for them again because they are not Al Gore or Hillary Clinton?

[North Coast Conservative]

We have talked about this at Heritage Club, but I am not sure whether there was any consensus of what to do?

What do we do to effect policy in our own party?

Get US Out of the United Nations

In God We Trust…..Semper Fi

[JohnGalt]

What is the difference between a Big Government Republican and a Big Government Liberal Democrat?

One works at the Weakly Standard and the other works at The New Republic.

Ahem-Fred Barnes--cough...

[My2Cents]

I see the big battles as being spiritual in nature, not philosophical or ideological -- right vs. wrong, God vs. the godless, values based on absolutes vs. those with no values at all, the principled vs. the unprincipled, optimists vs. naysayers, humble public services vs. the power-crazed, truth vs. lies, traditionalists vs. nihilists, civilization vs. the evildoers.

[Fred Mertz]

Nobody wants to touch this thread with a ten-foot pole. I wonder why?

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They taxed my ten foot pole down to five feet, two inches.

[gulfcoast6]

You know, we are not living in normal times, Sept 11, Iraq, world wide radicals trying to kill us, keeping up the home front--all at the same time. Please, tell me which should we cut, saving out butts or just what. I say OUR President W is doing one hell of a job and gosh, to think AlGoreBore could be the one in charge and we would all be wearing robes and citing the koran.

[TexasDude]

Does anybody know how to find out if their congressman voted for the prescription drug bill? Pete Sessions is my Congressman and I'd like to know how he voted. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.

[deport]

Or, will we trail to the polls like the sheeple that they think we are, and vote for them again because they are not Al Gore or Hillary Clinton?

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Or we can trail to the polls and vote for one of the 9 dwarfs minus Lieberman that are debating live on MSNBC at this time from Iowa..... They'd make a good choice

[My2Cents]

The problem with framing such a question is that conservatism isn't a monolithic ideology. There are religious conservatives, economic conservativs, paleos, neos, small-government conservatives, isolationists, interventionists, deficit hawks, supply-siders. Which conservatism do you suggest we need to fight for? To listen to some of the purists talk, they'd like conservatism to go back to the late 1940s or early 1950s, where conservatism amounted to about 20% of the voting population, but they all pretty much believed the same thing.

If we want a conservative-leaning government, we need to have a working majority, and a working majority means a coalition of conservatives across the spectrum, which means that no one is going to get it their way 100% of the time.

A serious answer to your question about "What should be do about it?" is to articulate a conservative philosophy which everyone will agree on. Good luck.

[k2blader]

Well, silly as it sounds, according to some on FR it seems the plan is to win more GOP seats and then go conservative?

[Digger]

The truth is, Big Government Republicans have taken control of the GOP, while traditional Conservatives are left out of the loop

This is supposed to be a conservative grass roots web site. Let's hear the arguments to why this administration is NOT conservative nor is the people that you were forced to elect thru this "Two-Party Cartel". It is time to cut from this cartel & vote elsewhere if you truly want change. (Anyone going to flame Aldrich? If not then can we agree that we aren't getting our proper representation in this grouping in D.C.)

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1028122/posts?page=1

Session ... Yes

[Southack]

"The majority of Americans polled agreed with the ban. Yet it took nearly the entire Bush first term to end the madness. That’s clear evidence that the Conservative Movement has lost its punch, and maybe its passion as well."

Nonsense. Presidential terms are for FOUR years, not three. President Bush was inaugurated on January 21, 2001. He's now served 2 years and 10 months of that first 4 year term. That's only 70% of his first term.

Here's what he's accomplished so far:

Presidency of George W. Bush --the first 34 months

 

Banned Partial Birth Abortion

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America.

Passed 2 tax cuts----1 of which was the largest Dollar value tax cut in history

Pushed through TWO raises for our military.

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right.
Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control.

Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on Social security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid...weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises. Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton policy of not requiring parental consent under the Medical Privacy Act


Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes)

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.

Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first ten ABM silos in Alaska, so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes

Turning around an inherited economy in recession.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains

In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people

Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Urging Medicare Reform

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims

Submitted comprehensive energy plan--awaits Congressional action (works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era ("In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to one in which every single American understands that he or she are responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself. " -----this quote was too good to leave out)

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Pushing for privatization of Medicare and CHOICES based on current Federal Employee Health benefits program.

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations ( in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.

Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

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bttt

[Mudboy Slim]

"...tell me which should we cut, saving out butts or just what."

The wasteful TedKennedy-authored Education Bill, the ridiculously expensive Farm subsidies, the pork-laden Transportation Bill, NPR, PBS, etc. etc. etc. We could go on and on and on...with a $2 Trillion-plus Federal budget, the opportunities fer reining in spending are plentiful, but Dubyuh's GOP seems to want to grow Federal spending even faster than the DemonRATS do!! And unless we hold the RINOs' feet to the fire, we'll keep gettin' what they've served to date.

Where there's a will, there's a way, but Bush's GOP lacks the will...MUD

[BlackbirdSST]

You know, we are not living in normal times, Sept 11, Iraq, world wide radicals trying to kill us, keeping up the home front--all at the same time. Please, tell me which should we cut, saving out butts or just what. I say OUR President W is doing one hell of a job and gosh, to think AlGoreBore could be the one in charge and we would all be wearing robes and citing the koran.

None of this WOT has anything to do with the Farm Bill, the Aids Bill, the Education Bill, the worst the beast can hoist on us for the Holiday's, the Medicare Reform Bill (please?). This doesn't even approach the concept of actually cutting something. At least it's not ALBORE, yeah right! Are you sure? Blackbird.

[Mudboy Slim]

"...federal government discretionary spending grew by 12.5% in fiscal year 2003."

Dubyuh and the GOP ought to be embarrassed, and chastised into turning that abysmal record around!!

SHEEEESH...MUD

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Amen, brother.

[TexasDude]

Thanks! How did you find that out? Is there a web site out there that lists voting records?