Many Women at Risk of Being Murdered Don't Know It

YahooNews ^ | 11/28/2003 | AlisonMcCook

[Publius6961]

Unless the "trigger" for someone to hit a person is the threat of physical violence, it doesn't much matter what it is.

Of course it doesn't.
I suspect we agree more than not.

Normal non-abusive men, being more solvers than thinkers, are unable to understand why that ever needs to happen. More than once.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

We do agree. No one should stay past the first incident. The difficulty is that people involved in these situations don't realize that at the time - I sure didn't.

[peter the great]

Looking back maybe the two things that you cited were all you needed to know. The other thing what about his prior relationships was there anything there that would have made you suspicious?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

The only thing I can think of in that regard was that there was one particular woman he had been with that he couldn't seem to completely get over (I still remember, after twenty years and never having met her, her very unusual name - 'cause I heard about her constantly)...but he never came out and told me he had abused anyone, no, and no one else we knew mutually (his mother, father, brother, sister, or our co-workers) told me anything like that either.

I guess what I'd like to see people get from my story is the awareness that it's important to know what to look for before you or a loved one is deeply involved in something like this. I had the information I needed but I didn't have any knowledge of the significance of it, in relationship to physical abuse. I was financially dependent, isolated, and far from home - and I was easy prey for an older guy with an axe to grind.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

This is the title of the article.
"Many Women at Risk of Being Murdered Don't Know It"

If you disagree then maybe it is YOUR responsibility to go and find statistics to back up your argument.

I went to the FBI for statistics about which gender commits more murders against the other gender. The numbers show overwhelming that men commit more murders against women than vice versa.
Which of the thousands are JUST between intimate partners is probably a rather large portion, the exact number does not concern me. If it concerns you, then maybe you should go and spend the time supporting your own argument. It is not my responsibility to do your work for you.

[Yeti]

Which of the thousands are JUST between intimate partners is probably a rather large portion,

You're right, 33.5% of women murdered in 2000.

Interestingly, in 1976 the male/female numbers were close. But since then, the number of male victims of intimate partner murder(not violence, just murder) has been steadily decreasing, while the female number has decreased only very slightly.

But, take heart! The white male suicide rate is still untouchable, outnumbering women by as much as 10 to 1 in the year following a divorce.

[joanie-f]

I sure do long for women of uncommon valor, the kind that American women seemed to once have, quite in common, but that, has been skewered by our societal-engineering managers in Ph.D. clothing, the "liberal media," and the Democrat Party .... First Salute

Agreed (heartily).

First of all, without even attempting to dispute the assertions here, what kind of ‘research report’ is conducted by interviewing thirty women? What kind of scientific procedure is that? (My instincts tell me that the margin of error would probably be in the vicinity of +/- 100%).

So, right off the bat, let’s acknowledge that this report is a sterling example of junk science.

My best guess (could be wrong, but I’m guessing not): Ms. McCook, Ms. Nicolaidis, and Ms. Elliot (the three experts quoted in this article) knew what the conclusions of, and recommendations from, this study were going to be long before the study was performed. It was just a matter of seeking out (a grand total of) thirty women whose stories would support their agenda-driven conclusions.

Yes, there are men who are abusive toward women. And there are women who are abusive toward men. And men who are abusive toward other men. And women who are abusive toward other women. And abuse takes many forms. It need not be physical.

There are also left-leaning elitists who believe they know what is best for the rest of us: namely a nanny state in which no one is capable of taking care of himself/herself without the interference of (preferably state-appointed) experts; where marriage and the nuclear family are a hindrance; where villages, not families, nurture children; and where gender roles must be redefined so as to emasculate men and masculinize women.

The conclusion of this study?: Curricula on domestic violence should be revised to reflect these findings.

Curricula? We are encouraging a state-run (or at least state-supported) department of domestic violence education. And we are suggesting a change in the ‘curricula’ based on a ‘study’ of thirty women who didn’t leave after their first beating.

Yes, women are sometimes victims at the hands of men. That is an abomination. But women (general) are not victims of men (general). And it is ‘studies’ like this one, and experts like these, who have been attempting for decades (and succeeding, on a gradient) to convince us of generalized feminine victimhood.

Were I ever a victim of, let’s say a rape, would I change my view of who I am for the rest of my life? Would I place all men in the same brutal, ugly category as my rapist? Or would I pick myself up, and say to myself, ‘I will not allow one depraved human being to color black even one small corner of the rest of my life …. and I thank God that 99.99% of men are nothing like the creature who did this to me. God (please) damn him, and God bless the rest of them.’

It’s time for the American woman to take the first sign of abuse as an indication of things to come and get herself as far from its source as possible. And it’s time for the American woman to stop listening to those experts who seek to tell her that all men are innately evil and oppressive, to one degree or another; that being a wife and mother is stifling; and that dependence on the system will make it all right.

This report doesn’t actually say those things. But read between the lines. And do a study of how many articles are written, and how many studies are performed, regarding the abusive/oppressive/controlling behavior of men vs. the same for women. And then ask yourself, ‘Exactly who in this society is gender biased?’

It is the insidious growth of the system that is killing us all.

~ joanie

[ChemistCat]

The misogynists can always find a way to blame everything on women. All women are vile feminazis, you know, just out for money. All women deserve whatever cr*d the men in their lives choose to dish out to them. Women can be evil too, ergo all women are evil. Et cetera. Et cetera.

Men only do bad things because women inconvenience or annoy them....

[syriacus]

If you want to be a victim

Odd that you should mention "victim."

Did you know that many abusers (male and female) have actually been victims?

They are adept at attracting kind-hearted people by telling their own stories of being abused and neglected as children.

Many of their victims are idealistic people who hate to turn their backs on someone in need. The (eventual) victims think they can provide some help.

BTW, I am not a victim. I've been married to an outstanding human being for over thirty years.

However, I am not unrealistic. Nor am I blind to the real problems other folks have in their relationships.

Human nature is very interesting, isn't it?

There are millions of stories in The Naked City.