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China Warns U.S.: War or Peace
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, Dec. 4, 2003 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 12/04/2003 7:21:36 AM PST by Rams82

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To: Rams82
The last gasp of the Mao Revolution era grandfathers. Once they have finally died of old age then the young people can settle down to ordinary lives.
81 posted on 12/04/2003 12:37:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: kabar
I don't have time now (have to get back to work) but I will look into it more later on this evening.

You sound like you are right on...I don't know about the 4th or 5th statement either.

If we are combining then we can make some helluva bad ass combinations to prove our point...

China is a relatively small market. Yep.

82 posted on 12/04/2003 12:38:51 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Rams82
Everyone examine all the gifts you plan on purchasing this holiday season. If it says "made in China" or made in France, Germany, etc., buy something else.
83 posted on 12/04/2003 12:40:38 PM PST by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: taiwansemi
Well hey it's formosaplastics back from the grave! How are you doing buddy, still shilling for the good old People's Republic eh?
84 posted on 12/04/2003 12:43:01 PM PST by Chaseman
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To: Rocky Mountain High
Figures like exports aren't possible to cook up and get away with - your trading partners can verify them. The corruption in China is indeed staggering. But unlike corruption in, say, Africa, it's not characterized by a complete draining of money into unproductive hands. Well-connected people don't pay off their loans but that doesn't mean they're only spending the money on themselves. In many cases, a state-owned enterprise is used as a front to siphon off government funds to more lucrative private ventures.
86 posted on 12/04/2003 3:38:19 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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To: Filibuster_60
Interesting observation.
87 posted on 12/04/2003 4:04:45 PM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Rams82
Tell the Communist butchers to bring it on. We'll see what a 20-megaton airburst over Beijing will do for an attitude adjustment.
88 posted on 12/04/2003 6:39:55 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Rams82
"Second, there are forces in the Bush White House who believe that use of force against Taiwan, or indeed a war, can be avoided by giving Beijing a concession, let’s say publicly disavowing U.S. protection for Taiwan if it pursues independence," stated Fisher

Powell and Rove, is my guess. The chump and the panderer, respectively.
89 posted on 12/04/2003 6:44:38 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: american spirit
China's actions aren't some sort of referendum on free trade.
90 posted on 12/04/2003 6:58:20 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Rams82; All
12/02/03
Ford may one day export vehicles from China
Reuters

Underscoring China's huge promise as a hub for global auto production, the head of Ford on Tuesday said the automaker expects to use about $1 billion in Chinese-made auto parts next year and may one day export finished cars from the country. Chairman and Chief Executive Bill Ford Jr. did not offer many details about the company's plans in China, but said almost all of its parts sourcing there would likely be for the vehicles it makes in its Chinese joint venture. U.S. automakers and parts suppliers have been racing to gain a foothold in the burgeoning Chinese car sector. They have established a number of joint ventures there, lured by the prospect of a growing middle class that has prospered as the Chinese economy sizzles. Car sales in China broke the 1 million mark for the first time in 2002 and are expected to double this year.

91 posted on 12/04/2003 6:59:32 PM PST by m18436572
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To: cars for sale
91% of China's total population does not know the earth is round....odd as that is,it is fact.

Where does that 'fact' come from? Source please. And what poll can be that accurate in a country of over 1 billion that has so little knowledge and sophistication as you say?

The last time you were in China was_? Which provinces? For how long? Meeting with _?

As you can tell I am skeptical when reading comments like yours. This is your chance to back them up or please don't spill that kind of stuff around here...

92 posted on 12/04/2003 7:11:22 PM PST by NewLand
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To: All
Attention all short-sighted investors in commie land (Walmart shoppers included). Each chinese communist product you buy pays for missiles and nukes aimed at you. Don't try to buy off the barbarians at the gate, follow Reagan's way and defeat them before they get stronger, appeasement leads to tragedy -- remember Munich
93 posted on 12/04/2003 11:48:23 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: taiwansemi
One thing is for sure: no country can maintain its dominance forever, especially one burdened with neverending, empire-killing war debts.

Empire? We're a democracy not an Imperial power. That's the difference between us and totalitarian regimes. A pretty BIG difference.
94 posted on 12/04/2003 11:49:41 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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Japan, S. Korea, Singapore are not official one-party states that crust any dissenting voices (Tianemen square).
95 posted on 12/04/2003 11:50:48 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Rams82
Hey China .. Bug off

You have more to lose then we do
96 posted on 12/04/2003 11:51:47 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: All
Japan, S. Korea, Singapore are not official one-party states that crust any dissenting voices (Tianemen square). A communist state is not pregressive, it treats its people like dirt (how many died due tot he Cultural revolution and how many died in Tianemen square?). We're bankrolling our enemies, both the slamofascists (though Dubya is taking care of that) and the communist Chinese
97 posted on 12/04/2003 11:53:00 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: maui_hawaii
Plus the PRC is a totalitarian regime. Even if tomorrow we dismantle their currency undervaluation, that does not mean chicoms will buy our goods. All it requires is for a official broadcast to go to the communist party members to 'disapprove' buying of American goods and it will stop. Japan, S. Korea etc. can't do that because they are democracies and they do have some semblance of human rights
98 posted on 12/04/2003 11:56:34 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: kabar
Exactly, people of Chinese origin are brilliants (as proved in our country, parts of Asia and in Taiwan),but the communist totalitarian regime frowns on individual brilliance -- it threatens the party.
99 posted on 12/04/2003 11:58:46 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Chaseman
Well hey it's formosaplastics back from the grave! How are you doing buddy, still shilling for the good old People's Republic eh?

oh, the old Communist Heaven believer, eh? Like the paradise that was Romania, Poland etc. or the lands of milk and honey like Cuba, North Korea.
100 posted on 12/05/2003 12:00:38 AM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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