Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates)

Various | December 4, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

(Thread 11) Link back to thread 10 (Nov. 24-30)

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Contained in Thread 10:

Who can be a guardian, 1993 letter from Bob Schindler to Michael Schiavo, Palm beach Post editorial and FReeper response, T'wit's song about Schiavo and Felos, transcript of Lee Webb's (CBN) interview with Kate Adamson, partial timeline of Terri's case, the story of Martin and Anne Shapiro and the report on Terri's birthday party,

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

You will notice that this thread is not specifically dated. That is because we are just going to keep this one going until we have need of another one.

A reminder: please do not post personal information on the public forum. We have lots of folks on scene down in Florida and we don't want them having any problems with the death squad.

INDEX OF TERRI THREADS ON FR

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

As Terri Schiavo turns 40 next week, her loved ones fight for her life

Suspicious Circumstances, the Strange Case of Terri Schiavo

Schiavo asks Pinellas judge to rule without trial

Michael Schiavo tries to block Gov. Bush

Michael Schiavo Again Seeks to Block New Information About Terri

Why Was Terri Denied Holy Communion?

Terri Schiavo's 40th birthday Wednesday

Florida's Bush gets report on Schiavo

Participate in Terri Schiavo's Birthday, December 3, With prayer, Mass Intentions, Cards and Notes

FR Birthday Card: Greetings, Prayers for Terri Schindler-Schiavo

New Guardian Urged for Terri Schiavo, More Evaluation of Her Condition Needed

The Guardian Speaks: Terri Schiavo's guardian files his report; there's bad news and good news.

Terri Schiavo's Family Celebrates Her 40th Birthday, Hundreds Send Cards

Changes Proposed In Right-To-Die Laws - Your help is needed NOW in Florida!

The Case of Terri Schiavo: The Human Rorschach Test

[sweetliberty]

Good letter Star. Thanks for sharing.

[TigersEye]

That is excellent! Very well said.

[nickcarraway]

Proposal Would Help Terri, Make it Difficult to Remove Feeding Tubes

[sarasmom]

Good job.

I also think we citizens need to direct those powers of controll over the judicial branch that we do still have.
Vote against retention of every judge, everytime the opportunity presents itself.This needs to be done for at least three election cycles.
Is every judge corrupt? No.
Is the current legal system corrupted? Yes.
We have to assume our own duty to correct it.We are the enablers of our own government!
Dont attempt to avoid jury duty merely because it is "inconvenient".
The true meaning of our system of government re checks and balances, also includes the voting power of the citizens.
Use it.
Purge the legal system to the extent we can, everywhere.

[wisconsinconservative]

ping to self for later

[STARWISE]

Absolutely!!!! I asked about a month ago to get the names listed of liberal judges up for re-election so I can burn them into my brain. We will be armed well this time ... that's a certainty.

[T'wit]

>> A wise voice pierces bitter chaos of the Schiavo case

A lying voice twists the facts again.

[Shortstop7]

"has been in a "persistent vegetative state" since her brain was deprived of oxygen during a heart attack 13 years ago"

They're still perpetuating the lies, I see.

Just disgusting, isn't it? Thanks for the ping!

[JulieRNR21]

I just wrote in support of Wise's Bill to Sen. King & the entire FL Senate!

Urge others to do so ASAP.

[pc93]

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1032484/posts?page=237#237

[sarasmom]

It is impossible to meaningfully "judge" the judges, except in the most aggregious cases of incompetance.The only frame of reference are groups of other lawyers, with vested interests in maintaining a corrupt system.
Not exactly a respected, neutral, trustworthy group of people to base our votes on.
Vote no, on all of them.
Force the legal system to deal with Law, truth, and justice as inseparable concepts.

[Future Useless Eater]

Friends of Terri - be sure to read terrasol's post on the previous daily thread at post 431.

The former PVS patient who was almost killed, but later recovered, Rus Cooper-Dowda, is being FIRED for speaking favorably of Terri outside of a work setting, and on her own time!

... a MUST read!

Then don't forget to freep our big guns at FoxNews!

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Here's another good re-read from earlier this year...
Rus Cooper-Dowda's reporting of a VERY BIASED court hearing to determine Terri's condition...
here's a sample...

The family attorney explained that the lower court judge used a scorecard for response that stacked the deck no matter how Terri responded. If she always responded -- it was just primitive brain stem activity. If she randomly responded -- it was not repetitive enough. If it wasn't as fast as the demander wanted -- then, hey, she was "too" disabled.

About this time the judge asked for an assurance that Terri could be restored by treatment before treatment was tried. He wanted to know the probability of function restoration for Terri the way people want guaranteed winning odds from their bookies before they bet any money on the Superbowl.

Ms. Anderson gently pointed out that medicine and life didn't work that way. She asked what harm there would be in a trial period of full therapies before deciding such therapies wouldn't work.

...you'll never believe the judges reply!...

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      "Where there's life, there's hope."
      -Terri Schiavo ( arguing with her best friend Diane Meyer ) angrily PROMOTING LIFE FOR the comatose
-Kate Adamson ( former vegetative patient nearly starved to death ) "Its VERY painful... Its SHEER torture!"
-Michael Schiavo (teaching Terri she can NEVER DIVORCE him) minutes before her 'collapse'
-Michael's 1993 girlfriend ("he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!")
-link to latest TV coverage/interviews           Contact FoxNews

[Future Useless Eater]

Contact Info:

Hannity@foxnews.com - Hannity & Colmes - Sean Hannity

Ontherecord@foxnews.com -On the Record with Greta - Greta Van Susteren

Atlarge@foxnews.com - At Large with Geraldo Rivera

Speakout@foxnews.com general FoxNews forum - Thank them for having the best Terri Schiavo coverage of any news channel!

Oreilly@foxnews.com - The O'Reilly Factor - Bill O'Reilly
(Bill used to parrot CNN with drivel from the husband)
(he's 'possibly' a little more 'pro-Terri' now?-)

[Future Useless Eater]

Post 1 links to the story of Martin and Anne Shapiro.

BUT BEWARE all freepers, THAT story is almost CERTAINLY a cruel HOAX designed to ridicule Terri and Dr.Hammesfahr!

See post 378 /other thread

[isrul]

I don't know whether it's a hoax but the author (Ron Laytner) first wrote about her in 1998. Google his name and you can find it. The page hasn't been updated since 1999.

[nicmarlo]

Update, Pinellas County Courthouse filings (notice another Motion for Protective Order has been filed by Felos....this is most likely in response to Bush's "Request for Production" (I assume, of documents...perhaps medical records, and, perhaps, other information):

Uniform Case	Pinellas Case	Section	Case Type	Type
522003CA008212XXCICI	03008212CI	020	DECLARATORY	CI
Style:	SCHIAVO MICHAEL
vs.	BUSH JEB
Jury Trial	STIP	NOTH	Reason	Type Disp.
		Y
Filling Date	Appeal Date	Judg. Date	Reop Date	Docket Date
10/21/03	11/14/03
Case/Cat
DECLARATORY JUDGMENT

 

10 Docket Entries, 12/04/03 to 12/02/03

Pages	Date	P/D	Docket Entry	Ver
	12/04/03	PLAINTIFF	MOTION TO STRIKE 120203	F
	12/04/03	PLAINTIFF	MANAGEMENT CONF & MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER-	N
	12/04/03	PLAINTIFF	TRANSCRIPTION OF PROCEEDINGS HEARING ON ORDER SETTING CASE	N
	12/03/03	DEFENDANT	STIPULATION EXHIBIT 1/2	F
	12/02/03	DEFENDANT	BY JEB BUSH	F
	12/02/03	DEFENDANT	REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION TO PLTF	N
	12/02/03	DEFENDANT	BY JEB BUSH	F
	12/02/03	DEFENDANT	NOTICE OF SERVICE OF INTERROGATORIES TO PLTF	N
	12/02/03	DEFENDANT	HOSPICE OF THE FLORIDA SUNCOAST 120103	F
	12/02/03	DEFENDANT	NOTICE OF PRODUCTION OF NON-PARTY OF	N

NOTH	Notice of Hearing
STIP	Stipulation
Ver	Verified: F=Filed, N=Not Filed/Notice. There is no case file document associated with a notice.

[nicmarlo]

Jeb Bush also served upon Felos "interrogatories" (interrogatories are questions. The Defendant always has the right to ask the plaintiff specific questions; they are limited in number, and the number may vary according to the state. In Colorado, I believe the number was 50, but I have forgotten). Felos may not answer them all....he may claim that they "are not likely to lead to admissible evidence." Then Bush would have to file a Motion to Compel, asking the Judge to force Felos to have HINO answer them....the judge makes the decision as to whether or not HINO would have to answer a particular question.

Bush also appears to have subpoenaed records from the Sun Coast hospice....Felos may have issued the Motion for Protective Order for that, as well, saying that they shouldn't have to supply any documentation to Bush, for the same reason "not likely to lead to admissible evidence." Another Motion to Compel might follow that, too, and then Felos' objection to it....which then puts the judge back into deciding if evidence must be given to Bush.

As you can see, Greer can do many things in this case to help Felos. And Greer is more likely than not to make sure that anything he does will be to help out Felos.....the other thing is: things that are within Greer's "discretion" cannot be appealed.

The only thing that Bush can appeal concerning Greer is if Greer errs on "matters of law"......otherwise, it's all "discretionary." We already know what Greer's discretion is.

[msmagoo]

Now that is REALLY Good news! Felos and HINO, your time is gonna come! :)

[KDubRN]

Outstanding letter. Glad you addressed King personally

[sweetliberty]

Sounds to me more like the fix is in if Bush can't get rid of Greer and Baird.