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Has Bush betrayed GOP values?
The Desert Sun ^

Posted on 12/10/2003 11:33:12 AM PST by Stew Padasso

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:43:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Southack
You've read it? Then you'd probably read the Communist Manifesto and not find anything wrong with it.

Every restriction on our freedom, whether it's a freedom we exercise or not, whether the restriction is one that affects us or not, is a violent act against the Constitution.
101 posted on 12/10/2003 4:11:15 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: squidly
You, sir, are a rational person!
102 posted on 12/10/2003 4:12:06 PM PST by verity
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To: Southack
That, I am sure, is a much treasured assuring to the parents of Jewish kids getting blown up because the Palestinians can get to them in sensitive areas.
103 posted on 12/10/2003 4:13:10 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: Southack
And, oh yes... he signs Campaign Finance "Reform".
104 posted on 12/10/2003 4:13:55 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: StoneColdGOP
"Come live in Southern California and tell me he's doing something SUBSTANTIVE to stop the illegals."

There's a big difference between taking *some* action from that of taking *no* substantive action whatsoever. I gave you substance.

President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens
S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003.
It extends for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.

105 posted on 12/10/2003 4:20:15 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Poohbah
The story of the inaccuracy preceded the election in 2000. It was still not fixed as of this story. I personally haven't seen credible evidence that the degradation in performance was fixed. Note range as well as accuracy were impacted. That is not so easily tweaked.
106 posted on 12/10/2003 4:20:46 PM PST by Paul Ross (Reform Islam Now! -- Nuke Mecca!)
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To: StoneColdGOP
"You've read it? Then you'd probably read the Communist Manifesto and not find anything wrong with it. Every restriction on our freedom, whether it's a freedom we exercise or not, whether the restriction is one that affects us or not, is a violent act against the Constitution."

There's no need to get snippy about it. Yes, I've read the Patriot Act and no, it doesn't restrict or infringe upon either our Constitution or our rights...unless you aren't a citizen it barely even applies (save for the banking industry and a couple of other areas).

107 posted on 12/10/2003 4:22:08 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack; StoneColdGOP
Southack: Nonsense. There is *nothing* unconsitutional in the entire Patriot Act. I've read it.

Well, I just got a letter from my health insurance company (MSA) saying that they needed our signatures and other info because the Patriot Act requires that they track ~certain~ information about their customers. Can anybody tell me what that's all about and what it has to do with terrorists?

108 posted on 12/10/2003 4:22:53 PM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Paul Ross; Southack
The story of the inaccuracy preceded the election in 2000.

Uh-huh. And the LA Slimes probably just repeated the older article. They are about as unreliable a news source as can be found in this day and age. If it can be used to bash the defense community, it will run.

It was still not fixed as of this story.

I personally haven't seen credible evidence that the degradation in performance was fixed.

In other words, the liberal press didn't see fit to leak classified information that makes the defense community look good, therefore, the problem was never fixed.

You actually believe the Left Coast Times. How toughingly naive.

Note range as well as accuracy were impacted. That is not so easily tweaked.

Range wasn't directly affected. Reread the article carefully. Accuracy was degraded; the solution to said degradation involved reducing the range. That is a standard tradeoff in ICBMs. Once the bias is inside the required limits, the range issue goes away.

109 posted on 12/10/2003 4:25:50 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Born in a Rage
"Can anybody tell me what that's all about and what it has to do with terrorists?"

I'm sure that it would never occur to a terrorist to name a terrorist sympathizer or organization as a beneficiary to an insurance policy in order to get around restrictions on their wire transfers...

< /sarcasm >

110 posted on 12/10/2003 4:26:53 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
So...they can't just make a ruling in which they have a list of terrorist groups and the banks pop it in the computer and any transfers or whatever to them gets an *alert*? They have to keep records of millions of other people finances and medical information to do this? I think we can do better.
111 posted on 12/10/2003 4:31:04 PM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: scrutiny
Well, he said he would 'break up' media monopolies on MSNBC - they don't seem to be changing their coverage of him so far.
113 posted on 12/10/2003 5:10:13 PM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Southack; Quix; texasbluebell
THANKS for this.
114 posted on 12/10/2003 5:18:07 PM PST by Indie (Abortion: A holocaust of 45million..and counting... in America alone.)
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To: Stew Padasso
Yeah.. Yeah.. right. Bush is a silver spoon fed son of Mr. "NO NEW TAXES" and out democrats democrats, a faux hawk, even an ex-football team owner and fat donkey with a horn glued on his nose(RINO)
BUT
He's our shill for some handler somewhere and most of us will vote for him anyways... even if he were to raise taxes(but not this term) ...
Like we have a choice...
116 posted on 12/10/2003 6:43:08 PM PST by hosepipe
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