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LOL!! Dick Morris On The Factor
Fox News | 12-11-03 | my favorite headache

Posted on 12/11/2003 5:19:44 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

Morris just predicted Bush landslide "Dukakis style" next year over Dean. Says "Dean will be blasted next year by the Bush team on 2 issues

1. Because he is a liberal

2. Because he is a flake

Vintage Morris...says Bush has it locked up.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; dean; morris; toesucker
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To: The Old Hoosier
For the first time I'm genuinely afraid Bush will lose.

Boy, you must believe the same thing I do about Morris. He is always wrong.

51 posted on 12/11/2003 6:31:44 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: My Favorite Headache
I can never be complacent. Life's too full of surprises. I'll worry about Bush every day until January 2009.
52 posted on 12/11/2003 6:37:14 PM PST by Graymatter (Let's issue a new $40 bill to honor our 40th president)
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To: demkicker
I agree with Morris....but I thought a lot of people who post here think Morris is perpetually wrong. We blast him for not getting anything right, then we tout his latest prediction because we like it? I think Dean WILL lose because he's too extreme for the American public and has a loose lip...so he's going to turn off the swing voters and non-far-left Democrats. But Morris has an AWFUL record in recent years. He's a great writer, provocative "talking head" but going by what he says akin to believing the yearly psychic predictions in the National Enquirer.

53 posted on 12/11/2003 6:39:27 PM PST by jraven
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To: My Favorite Headache
Dick Morris is starved for attention because he's not rich like his brother Phillip, or an actor like his other brother Greg.
54 posted on 12/11/2003 6:39:58 PM PST by Imal (Warning: Sea monkeys may not appear as portrayed.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Morris is a contraindicator. I would not ake Dean and the dems lightly. They are hungry and united, we are currently not so hungry and dividing more each day.

If Dean had a brain and got to Bushs right on the First Amendment Debacle and immigration, bad things might happen.

55 posted on 12/11/2003 6:41:59 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: My Favorite Headache
Dick Morris is constantly making grand predictions. He is somewhat like those guys who walk around with the signs that say "The end is near."
56 posted on 12/11/2003 6:46:11 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
I'll still be at the polls pulling the Bush lever.

But.....how the HELL could he have signed CFR? All is he had to do was say parts are against the Constitution and it needs to be rewritten.
57 posted on 12/11/2003 6:49:01 PM PST by Vision
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To: feedback doctor
A flake is not necessarly evil or hateful.

And a lot of flakes vote. Now if you can get enough flakes to go the polls we got a problem.

58 posted on 12/11/2003 6:54:09 PM PST by oyez (post no bills)
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To: oyez
I've been thinking about Dean. If he gets the nom and makes a respectable showing, he and Gore are in the catbird seat in respect to the dem party. They will purge the party of cliintonistas and McAuliff. Now do we really want him smeared. I for one would love to see him and Gore take charge of the party, rid it of clintons and then go on in 2008 to a glorious defeat at the hands of either jeb or condi. Then we would have another 8 years of low taxes, security in respect to the rest of the world and the final draining of the middle east swamp. Dean could be useful to us. And Gore is unelectable in 2008 but Hillary could win in 2008. Anything that hurts her now is a good thiing.
59 posted on 12/11/2003 6:57:49 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Somebody explain to me the difference, please?

ALL liberals are flakes but not all flakes are liberals.

I seem to have picked up a tag line virus somewhere.

60 posted on 12/11/2003 7:04:49 PM PST by Holly_P (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Holly_P
Some libs aren't flakes. Some conservatives are flakes. Examples? Hill is no flake, she is worse. Pat Caddell is no flake. I can't think of conservative well known flakes. But we have some homegrown Freeper flakes if you ask me. Just my opinion.
62 posted on 12/11/2003 7:18:07 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: demkicker
She doesn't frighten me. In addition to all her other negatives she is not aging very gracefully. In another three or four years time she will be mistaken for Helen Thomas on a good day. You just wait and see.
63 posted on 12/11/2003 7:26:11 PM PST by SBprone
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To: My Favorite Headache
and that he had the last one locked up
64 posted on 12/11/2003 7:28:45 PM PST by des
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To: cajungirl
"I can't think of conservative well known flakes."

Newt Gingrich.

Bill Kristol.

Jack Kemp.

Lucianne Goldberg and her son.

Bob Novak.

Bill Safire.

Give me time and I'll think of some more.
65 posted on 12/11/2003 7:32:10 PM PST by SBprone
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66 posted on 12/11/2003 7:33:29 PM PST by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: SBprone
Some list but I disagree on Safire and Goldberg. Maybe we need a definition of "flake".
67 posted on 12/11/2003 7:38:23 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Do not underestimate Howard Dean. Several Dems running for the nomination would have told you last Spring that Dean had no chance whatsoever. Dean is dangerous. He has fanatical supporters. Bush is not all that popular. His support is soft. Dean is no McGovern. Far too many people, including talk show hosts like Laura Ingraham think it will be a cake walk for Bush. I don't think so.

68 posted on 12/11/2003 8:08:06 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: cajungirl
You're giving me four out of six? That's better than I hoped for.

Can I substitute George Will for Goldberg or Safire?
69 posted on 12/11/2003 8:08:25 PM PST by SBprone
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To: jwalsh07
His use of the internet is what is generating heat.
70 posted on 12/11/2003 8:10:40 PM PST by des
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To: My Favorite Headache
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter nor the ability of the Dems to steal an election.

--my mantra
71 posted on 12/11/2003 8:12:42 PM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
In 1998, on election night, Dick Morris was still predicting a 30 to 50 seat GOP pickup in the House.

I take everything Morris says with a HUGE grain of salt.

72 posted on 12/11/2003 8:21:24 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: .38sw
I predicted Hillary wouldn't win her Senate seat, just based on my observation that she was sounding just as dull as dishwater. I don't know what happened there. The Guiliani thing?
73 posted on 12/11/2003 8:24:45 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: CdMGuy
Dean's the ultimate chameleon candidate. He's the politician from the Altman film Nashville. It will be interesting but Bush will win. You are going to see some flash from the RNC this time!
74 posted on 12/11/2003 8:29:05 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: My Favorite Headache
He seemed very confident in his opinion.

He always does. Problem is, he has a terrible track record.

75 posted on 12/11/2003 8:31:12 PM PST by technomage
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the ping!
76 posted on 12/11/2003 8:39:47 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: CatOwner
No, Morris is no rat. He is as cold-blooded a political mercenary as there ever was. If he has any opinions or convictions on political or cultural issues, I do not know what they are.
77 posted on 12/11/2003 8:49:22 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: My Favorite Headache
And former 'rat mayor of New York Ed Koch said tonight on Scarborough that he intended to vote for Bush because it is obvious to him that the 'rats do not "have the stomach" needed to defend us from worldwide terrorism - "we're at war abroad and at home", he said........
78 posted on 12/11/2003 9:05:50 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: My Favorite Headache
I'm not concerned about Dean; he'll probably shoot himself in the foot. It's the people behind the scenes we should be watching out for. Who knows what the Clintons have up their sleeve. Like it or not, they still control the Democratic party, and they aren't going to relinquish power that easily.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a "dump Dean" campaign from within the party if Hillary detects any vulnerability from the Bush camp. We must remain vigilant.

79 posted on 12/11/2003 9:08:07 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: Lancey Howard
He's more Keynes than Hayek. I take DickMo as philosophically a Democrat who makes his hay where he can - Clinton-haters.
80 posted on 12/11/2003 9:08:44 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Izzy Dunne
1. Because he is a liberal

2. Because he is a flake

Somebody explain to me the difference, please?

There is such a thing as a harmless Flake.

However, a Liberal is a danger to everyone.

81 posted on 12/11/2003 10:32:48 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (If everything you experienced, believed, lived was a lie, would you want to know the truth?)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Yeah Ed Koch has really turned it around.
82 posted on 12/12/2003 12:36:10 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour In May 2004...Be There)
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To: SBprone
Leave Bill Kristol off that list! He rules!
83 posted on 12/12/2003 12:37:45 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour In May 2004...Be There)
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To: bfree
There are alot of people in this country who are clueless and once they get wind of "Dean the Flamethrower", they'll vote him in for entertainment value.
Bush barely made it last time and Gore couldnt win his own state. There is a sea change in this country right now and its all pleasure seeking. Its swallowing our will to do whats right and fight for it. We are in a tailspin and half the country doesnt give a crap anymore.
84 posted on 12/12/2003 1:08:26 AM PST by liberty or death
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To: My Favorite Headache
Vintage Morris...says Bush has it locked up.

Ugh! That's awful news. Morris is consitent with his political predictions - consistently wrong.

85 posted on 12/12/2003 6:13:28 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: SBprone
Paws off G Will, I adore him. I will give you Safire in exchange for two to be named later!!!
86 posted on 12/12/2003 6:27:51 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: .38sw
Dick Morris also predicted that Arnold Schwarzenegger couldn't win in California. I believe that he made a bet with Bill O'Reilly. I guess Bill is having lobsters on Morris. :)
87 posted on 12/12/2003 6:35:45 AM PST by John123 (The Governator is gonna clear a lot of the deadwood in Sacramento!)
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To: Vision
But.....how the HELL could he have signed CFR?

...and the Kennedy Education Bill, and $15 Billion to African dictators, and the Medicare Reform/Prescription Drug Entitlement. Man...thank goodness he's a Conservative, can you imagine if he were a lib?

88 posted on 12/12/2003 7:43:25 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: John123
I missed that, but I think I remember Morris saying that Crooooze would likely win.
89 posted on 12/12/2003 9:01:02 AM PST by .38sw
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To: two23
Also on the Factor tonight: Bill interviewed a woman from the Wall Street Journal, regarding the current flu epidemic, and she blamed Hillary Clinton for the shortage of vaccines. She said it was Hillary's "Socialized" vaccine program (during Clinton admin) that made the pharmecutical companies quit producing vaccines. The woman from the WSJ said there are now only 2 companies in the USA producing vaccines.

By socializing the medicine, the drug companies make very little profit.

The second reason of the shortage of companies making the vacine is that lawyers are suing them. The companies don't want the risk with very little profit so they exit the vacine market.

90 posted on 12/12/2003 9:07:48 AM PST by John123 (The Governator is gonna clear a lot of the deadwood in Sacramento!)
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To: cajungirl
Dean could be useful to us. And Gore is unelectable in 2008 but Hillary could win in 2008. Anything that hurts her now is a good thiing.

Actually, Dick Morris brought up that he thinks the reason Gore is supporting Dean is because Dean will most likely lose to Bush. Dick said that Gore did it to indirectly announce that he is re-entering politics and will run against Hillary in 2008.

IMHO, I think if Dean wins the Democratic nomination, he can keep away the political cash of the DNC away from the Clintons.

91 posted on 12/12/2003 9:16:36 AM PST by John123 (The Governator is gonna clear a lot of the deadwood in Sacramento!)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Leave Bill Kristol off that list! He rules!

I tried to restrain myself but I can't.

First, I've gotten Kristol's The Weekly Standard from its beginning and make a point to read every Morris column published in the NY Post, so I've come to different conclusion.

Second, Morris used to work for Lott and Helms, his columns consistently favor Republican principles and carry a decidedly anti-Clinton-Gore flavor (as an insider who knows), and he is the most astute observer of the political scene out there. Though he worked for Clinton (and had a few problems), he's got a record of successful campaigns at least as good as anyone else in the business, despite the miscall on California. I for one am happy to have him on our side.

Third, in contrast, Kristol is the non-Democrat pundit most pessimistic about Bush reelection chances (see latest essay), has called for the resignations of Rumsfeld, Powell, Wolfowitz and others in the Bush cabinet, supported McCain over Bush -- and talks fondly of Lieberman whenever he gets a chance, and properly deserves much of the blame as campaign manager for producing the Quayle debacle.

Forth, any liberal-flake list like the one above which does not recognize Spector, Snowe, Chaffee, Grassley, Hatch and several other Republicans lacks credibility.

Fifth, we can agree to disagree.

92 posted on 12/12/2003 2:46:05 PM PST by OESY
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To: BunnySlippers
You are right. Anyone who thinks an obscure Democratic governor from a small state can't unseat a Republican president should talk to Gerald Ford or George H.W. Bush. Six months ago, I thought Dean was a washed-up politician on an ego trip. The man should not be underestimated.
93 posted on 12/12/2003 5:36:17 PM PST by TedsGarage
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To: My Favorite Headache
Morris is feeling out a new position. Just a day or so back, he was saying much the same but also laying out how Dean could win.

At the same time, he was predicting that Hillary would be Dean's VP to forestall Gore's plans for '08.

At that point, my eyes glazed over.

Morris is entertaining and talks a good game. But much like Karl Rove, his professional talents have always been greatly overestimated. I've lost count of how many times his predictions have been completely wrong.
94 posted on 12/12/2003 6:16:37 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: CdMGuy
Dean is dangerous. He has fanatical supporters. Bush is not all that popular. His support is soft. Dean is no McGovern. Far too many people, including talk show hosts like Laura Ingraham think it will be a cake walk for Bush. I don't think so.

Excellent points. I normally say the same things and have warned here at FR about Dean for years now. Most people aren't aware that he started doing his foundation work about ten years back, even more lead time than Carter and Clinton took. He's travelled the country, building up his contacts and name recognition among the party for the last decade. His actual politics aside, he's a far more serious and better prepared candidate than either Clinton or Carter.

As far as Bush having soft support, one might point out that Bush's support in industrial battleground states is weak and that evangelical turnout may decline even further. So even in a strong market, low jobs performance and failure to tow the line on social conservatism could cost Bush states that he needs badly.

What we usually fail to notice is exactly how limp support for any of the Dim candidates is from the black voting blocs. This could be a key factor. Personally, I can't recall seeing a set of Dim primary candidates whose public appearances and whose staff looked so white since, well, like the Sixties. Maybe not even then. Heck, for all I know, even Sharpton has only white staff. I think the main reason Gore is so valuable to Dean is to be able to corral black support for Howie by assembling endorsements of liberal black leaders, something Howie can't do for himself, so far his only real weakness as a Dim candidate.

I think the press going on and on about Dean as the outsider who is too far to the Left and will be defeated is a fake-out. This will allow them to run up his name recognition endlessly and then present him as the authentic underdog and voice of the people once he gets the nomination. Shades of Clinton indeed. But I think Dean is their favorite and has been all along. They seem to exploit almost every story in a way to give Howie that magical 'Teflon coating'. But he doesn't have Teflon. He's got weak/stupid/bland opponents and a majority of the establishment press helping his campaign. And after the Clinton years, why would we expect anything else?

I think we're going to have another unconventional election. Something unexpected will be the deciding factor, not the usual stuff.
95 posted on 12/12/2003 6:38:26 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: TJFLSTRAT
Lieberman can't get the nomination, you see he is a Jew, and there are far more Jew haters today on the left, than on the right.

BIG TIME!

96 posted on 12/12/2003 10:17:17 PM PST by I got the rope (Sharpton '04......hee hee)
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To: Doc On The Bay
SADLY, Many of the "Leaders" in our past History NEVER LEARNED that Our Culture regards "History" as a "Minimally Helpful Guide" to Current Events.

Hi Doc.
Our short attention span and short memory are why we don't learn from the past.

Hang on down there we have another screamer coming Sunday nite.- SUN NIGHT E WIND 30 TO 35 KT WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 50 KT.

97 posted on 12/13/2003 3:45:50 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Anything done in moderation shows a lack of interest. - Capt. Tom)
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To: squidly
.....OR Rasputin.

So you enjoy large amounts of sex, alcohol, have poor hygiene and can heal little boys of their hemophilia?

98 posted on 12/13/2003 3:57:24 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde
My hygiene's not so bad.:)
99 posted on 12/13/2003 4:08:39 PM PST by squidly
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To: Capt. Tom
If You get 50kt, We get 70kt!!

Fun & Games !!

8 months of the year, we have "vacation;" the OTHER 4 Months are "Interesting!!"

We are NOW living in "Interesting Times."

But you know all this stuff!!

Good to hear from you!

Doc

100 posted on 12/13/2003 4:20:59 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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