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Thurmond's Family Acknowledges Black Woman's Claim
AP ^ | Dec. 15, 2003 | Amy Edgar

Posted on 12/15/2003 1:02:26 PM PST by Dr. Zzyzx

Thurmond's Family 'acknowledges' Black Woman's Claim as Daughter By Amy Geier Edgar Associated Press Writer Published: Dec 15, 2003

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - The late Sen. Strom Thurmond's family on Monday said it "acknowledges" a California woman's claim that she is his illegitimate mixed-race daughter.

"As J. Strom Thurmond has passed away and cannot speak for himself, the Thurmond family acknowledges Ms. Essie Mae Washington-Williams' claim to her heritage. We hope this acknowledgment will bring closure for Ms. Williams," the family's lawyer, J. Mark Taylor, said in a brief statement.

Contacted at his office, Taylor confirmed he was speaking for the Thurmond family but refused to give detail or answer any questions, including whether the family was in fact verifying the claims of Williams, a 78-year-old retired teacher who lives in Los Angeles.

A message left for U.S. Attorney Strom Thurmond Jr. was not immediately returned. Thurmond's widow, Nancy, said she was not taking calls from the media.

Glenn Walters, an attorney for Williams, said he believes the statement acknowledges Thurmond's paternity, though he hasn't discussed the question with the Thurmond family.

"We are happy that this matter has been resolved. Mrs. Essie Mae Washington-Williams can now take a place in history as a daughter of U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond," Walters said.

Frank K. Wheaton, another lawyer for Williams, had said Saturday that his client was coming forward to claim that the nation's longest-serving senator - and one-time segregationist - was her father. Thurmond died in June at age 100.

Williams was to discuss her story at a news conference Wednesday in Columbia. Calls to her home Monday were not immediately answered.

Williams had long been rumored to be Thurmond's child, though she had previously denied it. She came forward now at the urging and encouragement of her children, Wheaton said.

Williams told The Washington Post that Thurmond privately acknowledged her as his daughter and had provided financial support since 1941. She said she waited to go public because she didn't want to embarrass herself or hurt Thurmond's career. The Post first reported her claims on its Web site Saturday.

"There was an agreement between the parties that she would never discuss the fact that Sen. Thurmond was her father," Walters said. He said Williams was not seeking money and did not want to challenge Thurmond's will.

In seven decades of politics, Thurmond gained fame and infamy as an arch-segregationist, but he later came to support a holiday for the slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King.

Williams claims Thurmond fathered her when he was a 22-year-old living in his parents' home in Edgefield. Her mother, Carrie Butler, 16, had been working as a maid in the Thurmonds' home.

Raised by an aunt, Williams told the Post she first met Thurmond around 1941, when she was 16, and Thurmond called her a "very lovely daughter."

She told the newspaper she received money at least once a year in sessions arranged by Thurmond's Senate staff. Wheaton said the total over the years was "very substantial" but less than $1 million.

AP-ES-12-15-03 1504EST

Copyright 2003 Associated Press


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: stromthurmond

1 posted on 12/15/2003 1:02:27 PM PST by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
what do you know...Strom wasn't racist after all...
2 posted on 12/15/2003 1:04:06 PM PST by danneskjold
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Did they acknowledge the claim, or verify it?
3 posted on 12/15/2003 1:05:00 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: danneskjold
south carolina is like 25% black -- you cant be a racist and get elected from there decade after decade.
4 posted on 12/15/2003 1:06:05 PM PST by Nat Turner
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To: Nat Turner
yeah, I know...I forgot my <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags...
5 posted on 12/15/2003 1:06:52 PM PST by danneskjold
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
I think this lady deserves a lot of respect for keeping this secret for so many years. It had to have been very difficult for her, knowing her father was a distinguished Governor, then United States Senator, and not being able to acknowledge that she was his daughter.

I would imagine that Sen. Thurmond is smiling down at her in pride.

6 posted on 12/15/2003 1:07:29 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: zarf
Barf, zarf. Sounds to me like he tried to do an honorable thing.
8 posted on 12/15/2003 1:16:04 PM PST by docmcb
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
I don't know what else they could do ... she looks more like Strom Thurmond than any woman should have to! But seriously, she's shown tremendous dignity, and I hope she does well for many more years.
9 posted on 12/15/2003 1:16:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (Nobody's indoctrinating MY children ... except me!)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
I guess I do see a resemblance.....


10 posted on 12/15/2003 1:21:58 PM PST by machman
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To: docmcb
Sounds to me like he tried to do an honorable thing.

In what way did Strom do the honorable thing? Honorable would have been acknowledging his daughter 78 years ago and not running for President as a segregationist.

11 posted on 12/15/2003 1:22:24 PM PST by jsbankston
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To: docmcb
Barf, zarf. Sounds to me like he tried to do an honorable thing.

So as long as a pedophile pays child support in secret, then the pedophile has done something honorable?

12 posted on 12/15/2003 1:23:14 PM PST by Cobra Scott
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To: docmcb
I do not follow your reasoning.

In what way was he doing "an honorable thing"?

It does come off as a bit hypocritical to engage in, ummm, relations with someone of a particular socio-economic class, and then work to deny that class equality before the law.

Am I missing something?
13 posted on 12/15/2003 1:24:42 PM PST by dmz
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To: zarf
In 1965, one of Lyndon Johnson's daughters reported that Strom Thurmond had asked her to join him on a bike ride around the Mall, and she asked the president for permission. Johnson gave her this priceless reply.

"When Ol' Strom dies, they're gonna need extra strong coffin nails 'cause his pecker'll pry the lid right off!"

He refused her permission to take that bike ride.

14 posted on 12/15/2003 1:25:02 PM PST by Publius
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
The South Carolina law regarding this:

SECTION 16-3-655. Criminal sexual conduct with minors.

(3) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the second degree
if the actor engages in sexual battery with a victim who is at least fourteen years
of age but who is less than sixteen years of age and the actor is
in a position of familial, custodial, or official authority to coerce the victim to
submit or is older than the victim.

Since Carrie Butler was 16 I guess it was ok.

15 posted on 12/15/2003 1:29:35 PM PST by ASA Vet ("Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.")
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To: dmz
Well, of course, the most right thing would have been to not engage in fornication to begin with. I'm not clear whether Strom knew about the pregnancy at the time? If his first contact with his daughter was at age 16? But "honorable" at least in the sense that I can think of two worse things than what he did: denying his responsibility and refusing any sort of support.
16 posted on 12/15/2003 1:30:11 PM PST by docmcb
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To: Inspectorette
She does deserve much credit. She sounds like a daughter that a man would be lucky to have. It boggles the mind to think that he could consider her a very lovely daughter an also be an arch-segregationist. But the human personality is rife with paradoxes and contradictions.
17 posted on 12/15/2003 1:31:01 PM PST by Savage Beast (The more truth threatens delusions, the more the resistance intensifies.)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
How does this make her black?
18 posted on 12/15/2003 1:33:38 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
The title says she's black.

The first sentence says she's mixed race.

It seems that the implication is that black=mixed race

19 posted on 12/15/2003 1:36:07 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Why does the name "Williams" ring so many bells?
20 posted on 12/15/2003 1:36:53 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
We're all still waiting for the AP, NBC, CBS, et al. to jump all over that Danny Williams matter.
21 posted on 12/15/2003 1:39:36 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: danneskjold
Strom wasn't racist after all...

Yes, but he was a segregationist...Kept his white family separate from his non-white family!

22 posted on 12/15/2003 1:42:36 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
I hope all those idiots who claimed she was just doing it for the money are now eating crow!
23 posted on 12/15/2003 1:52:02 PM PST by JudyB1938 (It's a wild world. There's a lot of bad and beware.)
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To: Savage Beast
But the human personality is rife with paradoxes and contradictions

Aint that the truth.

24 posted on 12/15/2003 1:53:02 PM PST by Smogger
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To: JudyB1938
Separate but equal until you get a "woody."
25 posted on 12/15/2003 1:55:51 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Gives meaning to the phrase, "joined at the hip."
26 posted on 12/15/2003 2:04:51 PM PST by MainFrame65
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To: MainFrame65
If God had intended whites to "intermingle" with blacks he would have made them both with compatible sexual parts.

Oh, wait a minute!
27 posted on 12/15/2003 2:20:42 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Strom finally outgrew his appetites - it just took him more years to do it than most.
28 posted on 12/15/2003 2:28:17 PM PST by MainFrame65
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To: george wythe
It seems that the implication is that black=mixed race

Actually by defintion we are ALL black. Being black is defined as having African heritage, and since evolution tells us we all evolved from what is now Africa, I think we can all claim to be black, IMHO.

29 posted on 12/15/2003 2:30:16 PM PST by Always Right
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To: JudyB1938
She told the newspaper she received money at least once a year in sessions arranged by Thurmond's Senate staff. Wheaton said the total over the years was "very substantial" but less than $1 million.

Sounds like political hush money.

30 posted on 12/15/2003 2:32:39 PM PST by berserker
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To: Publius
"When Ol' Strom dies, they're gonna need extra strong coffin nails 'cause his pecker'll pry the lid right off!"

Senator John Tower said something similiar in the late 80's or early 90's (I think it was '91).

When that man dies there gonna need to beat his di#k with a baseball bat to close the coffin.

31 posted on 12/15/2003 2:40:30 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Savage Beast
It boggles the mind to think that he could consider her a very lovely daughter an also be an arch-segregationist. But the human personality is rife with paradoxes and contradictions.

Looking over Strom's life and following his bio, it seems he was more or less a politican first and the segragation views he had were mearly his finger in the wind. He contradicted himself over and over again, from his days as a school superintendent who made it a goal to educate blacks and get there scores up ("for county pride of course") to being a laywer who didn't even segregate his own office, to being a judge who ruled against the clan, to being a segragationist canidate and running on that platform repeatedly to being the first senator to hire an african american chief of staff.

32 posted on 12/15/2003 2:45:07 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Buwahahahaaa..Nothing new here, happens in many wealthy families, where the black slaves/maids were used by their master's or their master's kid's! Not so obvious these days with birth control so rampant, but still a common occurrence. Comes with entitlement and the idea that they OWN whatever they want.
33 posted on 12/15/2003 2:46:32 PM PST by Merovingian
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To: jsbankston
Uh,oh now you're in for it.
34 posted on 12/15/2003 2:51:21 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
I'd just like to point out the conflict between Strom's actions and his campaign against interracial marriage occurred while he was a Democrat.
35 posted on 12/15/2003 2:54:39 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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36 posted on 12/15/2003 2:55:55 PM PST by mhking
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Any word from Trent Lott?
37 posted on 12/15/2003 2:57:40 PM PST by Consort
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To: docmcb
Another account I read stated that he left town when she was born. I'm pretty confident that he knew full well that she was his daughter from the time she was born.

Humans are full of complex contradictions. I can only hope that Strom and the girl were mutually attracted to one another. I would hate to think that the 22 year old Strom raped the 16 year old maid.
38 posted on 12/15/2003 3:07:44 PM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Cobra Scott
Pedophile? A 22-year-old and a 16-year-old is not what one thinks of a typical pedophile relationship. Further, he did acknowledge her, he just didn't go public with it.

But what if he didn't? What recourse to support would a 16-year-old black maid have against the son of a promient wealthy man in Jim Crow S.C.?

39 posted on 12/15/2003 3:10:52 PM PST by Tribune7 (David Limbaugh never said his brother had a "nose like a vacuum cleaner")
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To: jsbankston
LOL, most of the 22-year-old guys I know who knocked up their girlfriends didn't act as honorably as Strom -- unless you call pushing the girl into an abortion honorable.
40 posted on 12/15/2003 3:12:22 PM PST by Tribune7 (David Limbaugh never said his brother had a "nose like a vacuum cleaner")
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
This is very interesting just returned from SC, picking up my son from Clemson. Drove down and toured the capital in Columbia, toooo interesting considering all that has gone on.
41 posted on 12/15/2003 3:12:42 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cobra Scott
So as long as a pedophile pays child support in secret, then the pedophile has done something honorable?

Pedophile? Read the article, particucarly the paragraph below.

>>> Williams claims Thurmond fathered her when he was a 22-year-old living in his parents' home in Edgefield. Her mother, Carrie Butler, 16, had been working as a maid in the Thurmonds' home. <<<

You're a piece of work if you think Strom was a pedophile. Seventy-eight years ago, I doubt that his mating with a sixteen year old was even a crime of statutory rape.

42 posted on 12/15/2003 3:15:52 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
I imagine there were miscegenation laws back then that would have got EVERYBODY in a whole heep of trouble.
43 posted on 12/15/2003 3:29:44 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
...Quick, Trent Lott should get his job back (Majority Leader) as 'ol Strom was not a segregationist after all.

Run, Trent, run!

hehehehehe
44 posted on 12/15/2003 3:36:10 PM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Can Trent have his job back now?
45 posted on 12/15/2003 3:55:58 PM PST by WKB (3!~ A fine is a tax for doing wrong.; A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Will we find out the truth about Danny Williams when his father dies?
46 posted on 12/15/2003 3:58:37 PM PST by WKB (3!~ A fine is a tax for doing wrong.; A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: berserker
Yes, it very well could have been political blackmail over the years. However, I'd like to think it was because of the Southern tradition where rich white men took care of both of their families, both black AND white. Thankfully, that archaic way of living is mostly gone.

Personally, I think he was a randy cad. It definitely wasn't him that I was taking up for. It was his daughter. She seems like a lovely and dignified person to me, just wanting to get the record straight before she died (at the request of her children).

Oops. I just thought of something. Maybe THEY want to try to cash in on that inheritance. LOL
47 posted on 12/15/2003 4:54:02 PM PST by JudyB1938 (God has such a sense of humor. He moved me to Clinton, Arkansas.)
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To: JudyB1938
White, Southern men STILL take care of their families....be they black or white. Strom was a good man (I knew him personally) and his son (a friend of mine) is a good man, too. There is nothing outdated about looking after your own.
48 posted on 12/15/2003 5:47:20 PM PST by rebelyell
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To: rebelyell
I didn't make myself clear, I guess. The way I understand it, it was common for rich white men to have two families at the same time - a white wife and a black mistress. I used to have a friend whose white father maintained two households like that. The white family was on top of the hill somewhere in Oklahoma, and the black family was at the bottom of the hill. So, I am basing my remarks mostly on what my friend told me. Heavens forbid ... I CERTAINLY didn't mean to infer that Southern men have lost their sense of duty.
49 posted on 12/15/2003 6:22:03 PM PST by JudyB1938 (God has such a sense of humor. He moved me to Clinton, Arkansas.)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
"The Rev. Jesse Jackson, a native of South Carolina, said he was struck by the similarities between Mr. Thurmond's situation and that of Jefferson, asserting that they reflected "a deep and ugly Southern tradition" of white men taking advantage of young black women in their employ.

"By day, they are bullies," Mr. Jackson said. "By night, they manipulate race to their advantage."

Referring to Mr. Thurmond and Ms. Washington-Williams, he added: "The point that strikes me the most is that he lived 100 years and never acknowledged his daughter. He never let her eat at his table. He fought for laws that kept his daughter segregated and in an inferior position. He never fought to give her first-class status. Thomas Jefferson did pretty much the same.""

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/16/national/16STRO.html

I guess Jesse is the only one with the right to keep quiet about his out-of-wedlock children. Maybe Strom should have used money from a non-profit group to silence his daughter, like Jesse did to his mistress.
50 posted on 12/16/2003 10:11:55 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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