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Hillary Leaning Toward V-P Run
www.bobbarr.org ^ | 12/22/03 | Bob Barr

Posted on 12/22/2003 8:09:15 AM PST by harpu

Atlanta, Georgia – Long time-Clinton family insider and nationally-renowned political advisor Dick Morris says Sen. Hillary Clinton is leaning toward a run for the Vice Presidential spot in next year’s election. Morris also speculated that Howard Dean, the likely Democrat presidential nominee, will ask Mrs. Clinton to join his ticket in the near future.

Appearing last night on Bob Barr’s Laws of the Universe®, Dick Morris gave some of the most candid insight into the Clinton camp’s strategy for her much expected run for the presidency in 2008. The transcript from the show that aired last night is as follows:

Bob Barr: “…I’ve gotta ask you, what is Hillary up to? When is she going to run for President? And, what is she going to be doing in the presidential race this coming year?”

Dick Morris: “She’ll run for President in ’08. But, I think that there is an increasing chance that she may run for Vice President in ’04. I think that Dean is gonna get the Democratic nomination. And, he has got to be scared to death that the Clinton’s are going to knife him in the back while he’s running.

. . . [T]he Clintons put up Wesley Clark. They funded him. They put all of their people in there. They backed Liebermann before that. They flirted with Kerry. Anybody but Dean! And, Dean has got to be very scared about that. And, I think there’s a very good argument that he may wanna take a hostage and put Hillary on his ticket, so that doesn’t happen.

. . . And from Hillary’s point of view, a month ago she thought she had a clear shot at the nomination in ’08. She knew Dean would win. She knew that Dean would loose to Bush. It was ideal. There would be an open White House and no democrat of any stature to run. Then Gore comes along and endorses Dean. And, that’s basically a statement by Gore that ‘I’m not retired. I’m back in the fray. You may see me running in ’08.’

. . . And then she has to also worry that there may be a new vice presidential candidate, like Wesley Clarke, who could use it to run in ‘08. So, for a lot of reasons she may want to get in there, preempt Clark, outshine Gore, and have her clear shot at the nomination.”

Bob Barr’s Laws of the Universe® airs from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM each Sunday evening on the Radio America Network. Bob Barr entertains listeners with his sharp sense of humor and unconventional wit applied to current news and politics.

Audio of the interview is available upon request by emailing John Taylor at jtstrategy@aol.com


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bobbarr; cantwin; dickmorris; electionpresident; hillary; loser; veep; vrwc; wontwin
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1 posted on 12/22/2003 8:09:15 AM PST by harpu
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To: harpu
Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire.

She promised the voters of NYS she'd serve out her term

2 posted on 12/22/2003 8:10:35 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: harpu
She'll be Lyndon Johnson the 2nd if the Democrats win next year.
3 posted on 12/22/2003 8:11:32 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: mewzilla
Nah, she heard Rudy is running against her and knows she will never win again in NY. She's moving on to plan B.
4 posted on 12/22/2003 8:13:02 AM PST by rintense
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To: harpu
And, he has got to be scared to death that the Clinton’s are going to knife him in the back while he’s running

Oh but what if a miracle happens and he wins? Then he gets to live with this fear for some period of time. How long? Who knows?

5 posted on 12/22/2003 8:14:33 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: harpu
And, he has got to be scared to death that the Clinton’s are going to knife him in the back while he’s running
If by some chance (like Satan having to take up skiing!) and Dean/Clinton gets elected, I wouldn't be surprised if something very similar to this happens to Dean. Or maybe they'll find him in a park after he committed "suicide." Hillary would be president. Shudder to think!

6 posted on 12/22/2003 8:14:40 AM PST by jtminton (2Timothy 4:2)
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To: harpu
We had better hear loud and clear LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE from the pundits on the left.

I shall be standing in the corner holding my breath until they do.
7 posted on 12/22/2003 8:14:51 AM PST by PeteFromMontana (Merry Christmas!)
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To: harpu
And, he has got to be scared to death that the Clinton’s are going to knife him in the back while he’s runningbr>
If by some chance (like Satan having to take up skiing!) and Dean/Clinton gets elected, I wouldn't be surprised if something very similar to this happens to Dean. Or maybe they'll find him in a park after he committed "suicide." Hillary would be president. Shudder to think!
8 posted on 12/22/2003 8:15:11 AM PST by jtminton (2Timothy 4:2)
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To: harpu
Never, ever happen.

But if it did, I would say Dean has a death wish like I have never seen.

Or maybe there is something to the old adage keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

9 posted on 12/22/2003 8:16:51 AM PST by riri
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To: harpu
As usual, I think Dick Morris needs to cut down on his meds before he starts making predictions. He has proved competent as a campaign strategist and adviser, but has a batting average that a pitcher would be ashamed of when it comes to forecasting.

Sometimes I wonder if he doesn't say outrageous things just to get attention.
10 posted on 12/22/2003 8:16:54 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: harpu
I wouldn't put anything past Hillary! But since this is based on a quote from toesucker Morris, I'll discount it appropriately.
11 posted on 12/22/2003 8:17:22 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: harpu
Anybody who would take Hitlery on as a Veep must have a serious death wish.

Of course, looks like Morris is saying that if Dean DOESN'T take Hitlery on as his Veep candidate, he may find himself in Fort Marcy Park . . .

I wish these two-bit Dixie mafiosi would just go away.

12 posted on 12/22/2003 8:17:35 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: harpu
lowering the bar for herself and ol' crusty, i see ... i'll bet she thinks she can cow howie into giving up the oval office the way she got the wimpgore to give up his office in 92 ... man, what a work of art
13 posted on 12/22/2003 8:17:46 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (George Bailey: You call this a happy family? Why do we have to have all these kids?)
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To: #3Fan
Dean better watch his back and have an official taster if Hillary becomes his V.P. She is dangerous to life and safety if you get between her and power.
14 posted on 12/22/2003 8:18:24 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: harpu
Dick Morris isn't exactly the most accurate political forecaster I've observed.

And really don't think anyone from the Clinton camp has talked to him in years.

15 posted on 12/22/2003 8:19:07 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: mewzilla
>> "She promised the voters of NYS she'd serve out her term" <<

She WILL serve out her term. A Dean/Clinton ticket will be defeated by Bush.


>> "And, he has got to be scared to death that the Clinton’s are going to knife him in the back while he’s running." <<

WOW, and he is NOT scared of this possibility with Hil-rat as his VP?????

16 posted on 12/22/2003 8:19:57 AM PST by sd-joe
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To: harpu
Anyone who is dumb enough to put themselves between Hillary Clinton and the Presidency is too stupid to be president, period.
17 posted on 12/22/2003 8:20:38 AM PST by dirtboy (New Ben and Jerry's flavor - Howard Dean Swirl - no ice cream, just fruit at bottom)
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To: Catspaw
Morris has become the classic "talking head" who is now famous because he is famous and used because he is used and viewers have a high comfort rating with him. As far as him being an accurate analyst, that "skill" went out the window. As an analyst he sucks (toes).
18 posted on 12/22/2003 8:20:55 AM PST by jraven
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To: Catspaw
Morris has become the classic "talking head" who is now famous because he is famous and used because he is used and viewers have a high comfort rating with him. As far as him being an accurate analyst, that "skill" went out the window. As an analyst he sucks (toes).
19 posted on 12/22/2003 8:21:00 AM PST by jraven
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To: harpu
The only way she will take the #1 or #2 spot on a ticket is if it looks like the dems have a chance at the time of their convention.
20 posted on 12/22/2003 8:21:13 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: RicocheT
Dean better watch his back and have an official taster if Hillary becomes his V.P. She is dangerous to life and safety if you get between her and power.

Yeah, with the West and the South, she knows the only way she becomes president is through the VP slot.

21 posted on 12/22/2003 8:21:31 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: harpu
Of course this is just an unrelated coincidence:




December 22, 2003 -- WASHINGTON - Democratic front-runner Howard Dean tried to head off a challenge from retired Gen. Wesley Clark by offering to name the former military man as his running mate, Clark said yesterday.

The deal was discussed in September, before Clark threw his hat into the ring, and was dismissed outright, according to Clark.

Dean "did offer me the vice presidency. And what I told him was, that's not the issue," Clark said on ABC's This Week. The veep slot "was sort of discussed . . . and dangled before I made the decision to run."

But Dean's campaign manager, Joe Trippi, went on the same show to claim the offer never happened.

On another front, Dean, the former governor of Vermont, will release his confidential records from his administration when a judge approves it, Trippi said yesterday.

His opponents, including Rep. Richard Gephardt (D-Mo.) and Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), have complained that Dean could immediately make the records public if he wanted.
22 posted on 12/22/2003 8:21:32 AM PST by PeteFromMontana (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Catspaw
Dick Morris has good taste:


23 posted on 12/22/2003 8:22:41 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: mewzilla
Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire.

Eeeewwww...sure that's a violation of some EPA standard...

24 posted on 12/22/2003 8:22:41 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (Proudly being a natural irritant since 1958.)
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To: harpu
And, he has got to be scared to death that the Clinton’s are going to literally knife him in the back while he’s running.
25 posted on 12/22/2003 8:23:41 AM PST by OXENinFLA (This just in, LIBYA gives up WMDs; Democrats IMPLODE.........Film at 11....)
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To: harpu
Sorry kids, but I ain't buying this one....tyhere's just no way in hell that Hitlery would EVER take a subordinate role in Howard Dean's campaign, and, there's just no way in hell that Howard Dean would open himself up to influence from the Clintons.

I respect Dick Morris's opinion, but I think he's full of baloney on this one....
26 posted on 12/22/2003 8:23:58 AM PST by Bean Counter
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To: harpu
The Clinton's sold their souls for this...never discount their abilities.

shudder!

27 posted on 12/22/2003 8:25:00 AM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: harpu
Dick Morris speculations...... He maybe correct but I'll believe it when I see it. According to polling info Ms. Clinton could wipe out the field if she entered the race so what would change for her in 2008 assuming the democrat candidate of 04 lost? My guess is she'll still be the stronger candidate in 08 no matter who's on the ticket this year. At present no democrat is polling anywhere near enough to beat President Bush. So I don't see any advantage for her to be on a losing ticket.


28 posted on 12/22/2003 8:28:15 AM PST by deport
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To: harpu
Why would Shrillary want to be the Geraldine Zaccaro of 2004?
29 posted on 12/22/2003 8:28:17 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: #3Fan
Exactly!

All this Hillary in 08 proves that they just KNOW they are going to lose big in 04. Otherwise, wouldn't they expect the incumbent to run again in 08? That is, unless what you say is true (Vince Foster, Ron Brown,etc...)and Veep Hillary finds herself in the White House following a 'tragic' event.... The truth is stranger than fiction with this bunch!
30 posted on 12/22/2003 8:28:59 AM PST by JustPlainJoe
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To: rintense
Nah, she heard Rudy is running against her and knows she will never win again in NY. She's moving on to plan B.

If she's smart enough to assess the liklihood that she would lose to Rudy, she is smart enough to see that she would lose being second on the ticket to Dean, but there may be enough value to the campaign that it would enhance her '08 bid. If she thought she would win with Dean, I don't think she would accept the VP nod, as she simply won't play second fiddle again, IMHO.

31 posted on 12/22/2003 8:29:22 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: harpu
If Howard Dean really believes he can win the Presidency in 04 why would he select Hillary as his VP? That puts him in her way of becoming President in 08. If I were H Dean and Hitlery was my VP I'd be concerned that some unforeseen event may remove me from office. Mmmm, would a Presidential suicide be plausible?
32 posted on 12/22/2003 8:31:37 AM PST by drypowder
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To: mewzilla
Tapping Hillary as VP will be the kiss of death for any presidential candidate - not that this crop of pathetic Democrat hopefuls needs one. But, it might happen anyway, especially if Dean finds himself thirty points behind Bush before the convention even starts!

But all these fears of Hillary getting on the ticket are unwarranted. If Hillary makes it onto the Dem ticket, it will be the biggest landslide (for Bush) in history. Too much is made of her senatorial victory in a liberal state against a weak and unknown Republican opponent. The woman is utterly unelectable on a national basis. We will be seeing margins of victory for Bush in many states exceeding 40 points. The end result may well be a filibuster-proof GOP majority in Congress as well. So run, Hillary, run!

BTW, if the rumors are true that Rudy will challenge her for the NY senate seat, look for Hillary to find a reason not to run for re-election. I don't think she has the guts to take Rudy on.

33 posted on 12/22/2003 8:35:43 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Merry Christmas!)
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To: RebelBanker
Schwarzenegger will lose according to Dick, sober up Dicky boy!
34 posted on 12/22/2003 8:37:05 AM PST by Blacksheep
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To: mewzilla
Dick Morris? It's a given then. Hillary Clinton will not be on the ticket this year.
35 posted on 12/22/2003 8:37:15 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: rintense
Nah, she heard Rudy is running against her and knows she will never win again in NY. She's moving on to plan B.

That's what I was thinking. She'll be toast in 2006, not 2008, so she'd best do something now.

36 posted on 12/22/2003 8:37:23 AM PST by geedee (Liberals tend to worry about right and left and leave the right and wrong for others to sort out.)
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To: harpu
And, he has got to be scared to death that the Clinton’s are going to knife him in the back while he’s running.

He'll get a bullet in the head once the Beast is sworn in as Veep.

37 posted on 12/22/2003 8:39:25 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: harpu
If she runs for VP, that would mean she would have to debate Dick Cheney. Ha, ha, ha. That would be a great show. Bush/Cheney in a landslide!!!
38 posted on 12/22/2003 8:43:37 AM PST by tirednvirginia ((But things are looking up!))
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To: harpu
Dean wouldn't gain a single vote by selecting her and he'd lose plenty of people who'd vote for Dean but can't stomach Hillary.
39 posted on 12/22/2003 8:44:25 AM PST by caltrop
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To: #3Fan
She'll be Lyndon Johnson the 2nd if the Democrats win next year.

Sometime a few nanoseconds after 12 pm. EST January 20, 2007.

40 posted on 12/22/2003 8:46:24 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: harpu
The only way Hillary will be on a Dean ticket is if there is a guaranteed loss in 2004. If Dean were to win in 2004 that would definitely create a problem for her in 2008 assuming Dean elected to run again. Hillary as the incumbent VP vying against a setting democrat president...I don't think so.
41 posted on 12/22/2003 8:51:38 AM PST by politicalwit
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To: harpu
Hey, I've been saying it for months.
Of course with Dick's track record I must be wrong.
42 posted on 12/22/2003 8:51:59 AM PST by Zathras
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To: mewzilla
This clears her of her promise to serve out her term and IF she should get drafted by her minions, then she throws her broom into the ring. Good ol Clinton incrementalism!This primary will be the wicked witch and her 9 monkeys!

Pray for W and Merry Christmas to Our Troops

43 posted on 12/22/2003 8:52:44 AM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY is Taking the Rats Down in Flames!)
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To: Cobra64
Actually, I saw someone on FR give the following scenario...

Dean manages to stay alive for two years and one day after inauguration. Suddenly falls victim to Arkancide.Hitlery sworn in...22nd Amendment says she can now serve TWO FULL TERMS after serving out the rest of the ex-Pres' term.

Enter the "Hillary Decade", full of Constitutional abuses, not to mention abuse of the Patriot Act.

At the end of 12 years, a "national emergency" comes up. Due to the fear and chaos, she assumes Emergency Powers, to include the "temporary" repeal of the 2nd and 22nd Amendments. She's now "Queen Hillary", we're her slaves, and the world goes to Hell.

Happy scenario, no?
44 posted on 12/22/2003 8:54:09 AM PST by hoagy62 (I'm pullin' for ya...we're all in this together.")
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To: harpu
A slight misnomer: A VP doesn't "run" for the office. Would agree with some here who say that Hill is afraid of Rudy beating the "pantsuit" off of her...lol
45 posted on 12/22/2003 8:56:06 AM PST by jaugust ("You have the mind of a four year-old boy and he's probably glad he got rid of it". ---Groucho!)
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To: geedee
Nah, she heard Rudy is running against her and knows she will never win again in NY. She's moving on to plan B.

That's what I was thinking. She'll be toast in 2006, not 2008, so she'd best do something now.

I was thinking that too. It gives here a "bye" on Rudy, who she probably can't beat. Also, I agree that Gore might get back into it, so a symbolic VP run on a Dean ticket might help her image. The fact that Dean is not expected to win might actually play to Hillery's advantage, since she would not be blamed for a loss.
46 posted on 12/22/2003 8:56:40 AM PST by dano1
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To: harpu
I don't doubt Morris being right, which means you just gotta love the arrogance of the Clintons. She may DECIDE to run as VP. Never a consideration that the presidential candidate chooses and invites who he wants. No, SHE will decide whether or not she wants to run as VP.

MM
47 posted on 12/22/2003 8:59:43 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: #3Fan
Dean would have to have a pretty serious death wish to want Hillary! as a Veep.
48 posted on 12/22/2003 9:03:29 AM PST by gridlock (There's no such thing as idiot-proof, only idiot-resistant. The ingenuity of idiots knows no bounds)
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To: politicalwit
"The only way Hillary will be on a Dean ticket is if there is a guaranteed loss in 2004."

If the lose is that clear...why would she accept second slot?
She wants to be President...NOW.
49 posted on 12/22/2003 9:03:48 AM PST by woody9
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To: riri
Dean would not be that stupid...maybe Clark...but not Hillery. He could not trust her one single day of the four-year term. And behind the scenes....with Bill in DC....just doesn't make sense.
50 posted on 12/22/2003 9:04:32 AM PST by pepsionice
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