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Flights From Paris to U.S. Cancelled
MSNBC | December 24, 2003

Posted on 12/24/2003 10:41:16 AM PST by cyncooper

MSNBC just announced that three flights from Paris to the U.S. have been suddenly cancelled due to "security concerns". The first flight was scheduled to depart Paris heading for Los Angeles.

I could not find an article yet.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airfrance; erniealert; france; lax; nocheeseforyou; orangealert4; terrorism; threat; usembassy
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To: cyncooper
CNN just repeated that one of these flights was supposed to land first in Cincinnati before going on to LAX. Given that Cincinnati is a Delta hub, I'm guessing it must have been a Delta flight given that foriegn carriers aren't allowed to fly between U.S. cities.
251 posted on 12/24/2003 11:37:30 AM PST by fourhorsemen
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To: aquaculture; jbstrick
"Opposing Operation Iraqi Freedom isn't a bad thing, JB. A lot of good Americans opposed it, too, including conservatives."

Yes it was a bad thing. And a few Pat Buchanan conservatives don't equate to 80% of the French people. You are attempting to be deceptive in your comparisons, imo.

Opposing Iraqi Freedom did us harm and therefore was/is a bad thing. France could have helped take Iraq without a shot being fired, but instead chose to actively try and sabotage us. That is not ok. As I suggested, perhaps you would happier on a French site...

252 posted on 12/24/2003 11:37:32 AM PST by Sunsong (Free Republic is a conservative, American site -- try to keep that in mind...)
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To: mewzilla
Richard Reid was on a flight out of Paris. Doesn't sound like they solved their security problems, does it?

Au contraire. If they stopped the flights, they are doing better than they did with Reid.

253 posted on 12/24/2003 11:38:02 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: got_moab?; aquaculture
"I'm the most conservative guy in the room."

Or solitary confinement?

254 posted on 12/24/2003 11:38:26 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: mountaineer
"Secretary of State Colin Powell had spoken personally with French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin to discuss airline security, including specific flights."

The Secretary of State does not make calls on weak Intel.... I think this is the real McCoy.
255 posted on 12/24/2003 11:38:32 AM PST by tort_feasor
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To: Steve_Seattle
Isn't it also plausible that if Al Quida was mentioning specific flights that it was just a red herring, and that the attack will be coming from somewhere else?"

Seems plausible to me.

Yeah, like somewhere in Canada?? :-,

256 posted on 12/24/2003 11:39:28 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas
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To: Steve_Seattle
""Isn't it also plausible that if Al Quida was mentioning specific flights that it was just a red herring, and that the attack will be coming from somewhere else?""

I would hope that our guys thought of that too. Regardless, I'll walk up and lock the gate.

257 posted on 12/24/2003 11:39:31 AM PST by blam
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To: got_moab?
aquaculture
This account has been banned or suspended.

About time too. Awfully hard to read this thread when half the posts are anti-Jew/pro-France rants.
258 posted on 12/24/2003 11:39:38 AM PST by Ex-Dem (Brutality : Faith :: SH : GWB)
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To: HIDEK6
More au contraire.....They were asked to stop the flights by the US Embassy. They didn't do it on their own.
259 posted on 12/24/2003 11:39:50 AM PST by abnegation (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness TR)
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To: mewzilla
we're getting closer to the real story now...

see 233
260 posted on 12/24/2003 11:39:58 AM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"This comment needs a sarcasm tag. If you're serious, I don't think you've been paying attention for the last eight months. There is no way the Ba'athists were going to give up power without a fight."

Of course they would have. If Saddam had surrendered, which he would have done had France (and the others) stood with us, he would have surrendered the army as well.

There is no excuse for the behaviour of France. None.

261 posted on 12/24/2003 11:40:31 AM PST by Sunsong (Free Republic is a conservative, American site -- try to keep that in mind...)
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To: Steve_Seattle
At this point anything is plausable!!!!
262 posted on 12/24/2003 11:40:33 AM PST by RepublicanArmy (God bless our Troops, Our President, & God Bless America!!!)
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To: Ex-Dem
AWWW! And I used some of my best lines on her!
263 posted on 12/24/2003 11:40:40 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: Wait4Truth
Don't wait for an answer as aquaculter's account has been banned or suspended.
264 posted on 12/24/2003 11:40:58 AM PST by StarFan
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To: cyncooper
>>>A flight from Paris to LAX would over fly ALL of the US. <<<

Not if they were direct Paris-LA flights. They would fly a "great circle route" that would have them (and I'm SWAS'ing* here) fly over southern Greenland, Northern Canada, dropping south to enter the US somewhere in Montana and on down to LA.

Scientific Wild Ass Guess

265 posted on 12/24/2003 11:41:16 AM PST by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: Fenris6
"Heh. At least he's aggressive. That's a start. :)"

LOL

266 posted on 12/24/2003 11:41:18 AM PST by Sunsong (Free Republic is a conservative, American site -- try to keep that in mind...)
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To: Ex-Dem
I started to push abuse on him but thought we were all doing a good job!
267 posted on 12/24/2003 11:41:23 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: RandallFlagg
How did you know it was a her?
268 posted on 12/24/2003 11:41:46 AM PST by Ex-Dem (Brutality : Faith :: SH : GWB)
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To: cyncooper
Perhaps these flights were housed in a hangar that is a security concern, and there is not enough time to re-inspect the planes (rather than a problem with a passenger or crew member)
269 posted on 12/24/2003 11:41:54 AM PST by Piranha
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To: tort_feasor
that'swhat I was thinking. By the time a flight from France got to the US they would not have all that much fuel to blow something up with.

My last flight from London to Dallas came over Newfoundland. I think we entered US airspace over Finger Lakes NY.
270 posted on 12/24/2003 11:41:54 AM PST by squarebarb (post number 190, just trying to get my numbers up)
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To: aquaculture
Don't tell me I'm a troll -- I'm the most conservative guy in the room*.

* Translation = I'm a left wing troll.

271 posted on 12/24/2003 11:42:04 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: aquaculture
Not what you said before, pal...you specifically wished for a terrorist attack on France. Sick stuff.

Lighten up, aquaculture! I "specifically" said that it would be the only thing that wakes them up, which is true. Sad, but true. And it's probably going to happen.

What have the French done to support a war on terrorism, except condemn it?

I don't wish a terrorist attack on anybody. They either take it to the terrorists, or the terrorists will take it to them, it's really that simple.

Merry Christmas.

272 posted on 12/24/2003 11:42:36 AM PST by New Horizon
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To: KSCITYBOY
"I work for a French owned company. I have met one decent Frenchman - The rest are arrogant pricks. Still I'm sure there are some decent French."

Thanks for bringing in some facts here!

273 posted on 12/24/2003 11:42:58 AM PST by Sunsong (Free Republic is a conservative, American site -- try to keep that in mind...)
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To: fourhorsemen
4:05 PM PST is 7:05 EST, NOT "1:05" -- so, wouldn't be schedule to land yet.
274 posted on 12/24/2003 11:43:10 AM PST by BohDaThone
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To: CWOJackson
Wasn't Lafayette -- who was our main help from France -- a pirate who often went back to France, referring to himself as an American -- not a Frenchman. (I could find the history quote if needed)
275 posted on 12/24/2003 11:43:26 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Steve_Seattle
No the fact that we requested the flights from Paris to be cancelled showed again that we can't trust the frogs in the war on terrorism to do their job in Paris and France.
276 posted on 12/24/2003 11:43:26 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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To: Ex-Dem
FOX NEWS ALERT!

"MAD COW SUSPECTED TO BE FRENCH"
277 posted on 12/24/2003 11:43:49 AM PST by got_moab? (W went to Iraq on turkey day looking for a hot meal, Reed went to Afghanistan in search of a hot man)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Yeah...why would they blow the whistle on themselves?
I think they are planting decoy threats.
278 posted on 12/24/2003 11:44:25 AM PST by sonserae
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To: squarebarb
The only contra indication is no Air CAP flights from near my location. Most times there is Orange Alert the planes are turning and burning.
279 posted on 12/24/2003 11:44:46 AM PST by tort_feasor
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To: BlueLancer
Whoever it is, is gone now. Check the account status.
280 posted on 12/24/2003 11:45:01 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: cyncooper
Any time something from France doesn't get to the US its not a bad thing.
281 posted on 12/24/2003 11:45:15 AM PST by vladog
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To: StarFan
Thanks, Star. As President Bush would say, GOOD RIDDANCE!
282 posted on 12/24/2003 11:45:37 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: got_moab?
FOX NEWS ALERT!

"MAD COW SUSPECTED TO BE FRENCH"

Ah ha, I suspected that!

283 posted on 12/24/2003 11:46:18 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas
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To: KSCITYBOY
It already has, to see some of the news reports from their Islamic underclass areas.
284 posted on 12/24/2003 11:46:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Ex-Dem
She sounded familiar from another board and I read some of the other posts in her account before it got the Almighty ZOT.

Just a guess, though.
285 posted on 12/24/2003 11:46:59 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Also plausible is that they have one specific pilot in mind, but don't want to tip off.
286 posted on 12/24/2003 11:47:15 AM PST by Shermy
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To: got_moab?
LOL! I knew "aquaculture" looked vaguely French.
287 posted on 12/24/2003 11:47:25 AM PST by Ex-Dem (~%%%Merry%%%Christmas!%%%~)
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To: All
An Air France source told AFP news agency: "We are taking all reports of any threats very seriously as we are facing the most significant threat we have had since 11 September 2001 and are reacting accordingly. "We are doing the groundwork appropriate to at least head off some additional attacks." BBC

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PARIS - French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin asked national carrier Air France to cancel U.S.-bound flights on Wednesday and Thursday because of a threat to security, the prime minister's office said. "Air France has cancelled the flights scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday, December 24 and 25, between Paris and Los Angeles," Raffarin's office said in a statement.

"This measure was taken at the request of Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin on the basis of information, currently being checked, which was gathered in the framework of Franco-American cooperation in the fight against terrorism and which was of a nature to threaten the safety of these flights." Reuters, via Ha'aretz.

288 posted on 12/24/2003 11:47:37 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: aquaculture
Well, that's your opinion. But if you defend the right of someone to say "the French suck," if that's their opinion, then you also must defend the right of someone to say that Israel sucks or is a "s****y little country". Right?

NO, because the French suck.
289 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:05 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong.)
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To: Yossarian
(At this point, French bashing is too easy, and thus isn't good sport....)

French bashing is always good sport. I don't remember anybody having "schadenfreude" over bashing for years the football team from the "frenchiest" city in America, New Orleans.

290 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:12 AM PST by Dane
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To: Shermy
It would be interesting to see what flights they *are* letting out of France...and where they're bound to.
291 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:16 AM PST by Raebie
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To: KSCITYBOY; MEG33
I don't know if arguing with aqualung here is worth the trouble.

Just picking a fight, I think.

So far, I've been informed that I want all of France dead.

Thankd God I'm not in charge. That would be "Pretty sick stuff!"

292 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:21 AM PST by New Horizon
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To: aquaculture
"The war in Iraq is a bad idea, Freedom, in my opinion and in the opinion of many American conservatives. France wasn't the only major player to oppose it -- Germany, Russia, China, India, Japan -- they all went against us. Are they bad enemies, too?

"The enemies are the neocons who've taken over the foreign policy of the conservative wing of the executive branch and twist it to Israel's interests. There's nothing conservative about neoconservatism. President Bush is figuring this out, which is why Wolfowitz won't be part of what I hope will be a second Bush term. And Richard Perle's gonna be gone soon as well."

Ah, so now the real "philosophy" of Aquculture comes out. You don't like Wolfowitz. He is a Jew after all. Can't have a smart, compassionate Jew in a position of influence, right? No, you'd rather see the French sabotage us than have that happen.

For sure, I think you would happier at a nice French site. There's a lot of anti-Semitism in France. Maybe you will even consider moving there...

293 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:21 AM PST by Sunsong (Free Republic is a conservative, American site -- try to keep that in mind...)
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To: nina0113
Those days are over. Here's what you can expect to find in France nowadays:

Cemetery for American and British soldiers who liberated France.
When the Muslims they imported start slitting French throats - which they certainly will - we will just cheer them on this time.
294 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:38 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: New Horizon
Don't worry, the anti-Semite twisted your words to meet his sick needs.

I certainly didn't read into your post that you wished a terrorist attack.
295 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:41 AM PST by RabidBartender (2003: Conservative <> Republican)
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To: RandallFlagg
I'm surprised she lasted this long. (Little more than 2 years.) Sleeper?
296 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:42 AM PST by Ex-Dem (~%%%Merry%%%Christmas!%%%~)
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To: sonserae
I would think that if the chatter about the French flights was diversionary, the real operation would already be underway. So if we don't hear anything bad soon, perhaps the French flights were indeed the targeted ones.
297 posted on 12/24/2003 11:48:43 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: tort_feasor
Lisa Myers, reporting a few minutes ago on MSNBC, made it sound like the U.S. really had to strong-arm the French to cancel these flights. It sounds like our people were very very concerned that these flights not take off.
298 posted on 12/24/2003 11:49:06 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: cyncooper
You should have put a '3' in the title unless ALL flights were cancelled!
299 posted on 12/24/2003 11:49:38 AM PST by tubavil
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To: sissyjane
Most flights from LAX and SFO to London and Paris are Trans Polar flights. They don't fly over the states.
300 posted on 12/24/2003 11:50:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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