Berlusconi Says Vatican Was Target on Xmas - Report

Reuters ^ | December 27, 2003

[doberville]

The letter 'X' was the ancient symbol for Christ. As such,
it would not be demeaning as shorthand as an abreviation
for Christmas.

[debg]

Wasn't me...

[Lazamataz]

Oh my Living God... That would have definitely done it. All bets would definitely have been off if it had succeeded.

Y'know, bin Ladin wants a total world war with Muslims against everyone else.

Say, I think it might be fun. And we can resolve the issue one way or the other once and for all.

[Lazamataz]

bin Laden wants to foment the "clash of civilizations." He thinks this is a good idea. He's nuts. On behalf of a people who are mostly living in the 7th century, he is going to lead them to war against multiple nuclear powers.

I say, lets do it. Let's put an end to all the speculation and wonder.

World War III: Islam versus everything else.

[LadyDoc]

This is not the first Muslim attack on the pope.

The guy who shot the pope was a turkish Islamofascist. The rumor is that he was recruited by the bulgarian KGB, but he was wanted in turkey for killing a newspaper editor. HMMM. Communist ties with islamofascism...

Second, the islamofascists tried to kill JP2 when he visited the Philippines in the early 1990's. They failed, thanks to the good Filippino security system (probably the real reason is the crowds were so thick they couldn't get near him). There were two Philippino airlines planes bombed back then: One that merely "disappeared" and one where the bomb went off while taking off down the runway (in typical Philippine fashion, the plane was taking off late, or else the plane would have "disappeared" like the first one if it had taken off on time).

The islamofascists/AlQada tend to keep at their targets till destroyed. So the Pope is indeed on their list.

BTW: there are also several prophecies that this pope will be a martyr...

[First_Salute]

Bump.

[First_Salute]

Bump.

[Aquinasfan]

Oh my Living God...

That would have definitely done it.

They want to start WWIII. Why this wasn't their first target is anyone's guess.

[Aquinasfan]

Islam is a political movement as much as a religion.

Yes.

In matters political Islam is a system of despotism at home and aggression abroad. The Prophet commanded absolute submission to the imâm. In no case was the sword to be raised against him. The rights of non-Moslem subjects are of the vaguest and most limited kind, and a religious war is a sacred duty whenever there is a chance of success against the "Infidel". Medieval and modern Mohammedan, especially Turkish, persecutions of both Jews and Christians are perhaps the best illustration of this fanatical religious and political spirit.

Mohammed and Mohammedanism
Catholic Encyclopedia

[spectre]

My best friend and her two daughters have been emailing me every day from Rome.

They managed to get tickets for the Midnight Mass at St. Peters. They said after the Mass was concluded the Pope came thru the audience and waved to everyone from his jazzy motorized wheelchair :~)

That said, they fly home on the 31st and I pray God continues to keep them safe till they get back home.

sw

[alrea]

Perhaps the Pope-ster might be a bit less critical of US policy if they take a hit.

[Desdemona]

They could level St. Peter's but the Church is the Mystical Body of Christ. The sacrifice of the Mass would continue and the Church would carry on. From the Catacombs, if necessary.

Amen. Christ told us that the Church would never die and that the gates of hell will not prevail.

[TheFrog]

Except for the those fellows with the big bulg under the arm of their suit.

[Desdemona]

Perhaps the Pope-ster might be a bit less critical of US policy if they take a hit.

The pope himself has not been critical. JPII has said he trusts George W. Bush. He just wants to be sure that war was the true last resort.

Cardinal Martino, OTOH, criticizes us. Martino is a "peace and justice" guy and regularly embarasses the Vatican. Martino makes headlines and then the correction from elsewhere in the Vatican gets lost the next day. It's frustrating for everybody.

[hershey]

If we had a gas we could dump over the Middle East and environs, or here at home, wherever terrorists lurked and plotted -- and the gas simply made them give up hatred and violence for good and saved lives worldwide -- Liberals would deny our right to use it because it violated their civil rights.

[SuziQ]

The Swiss Guard may look like poofters in their ceremonial garb, but don't let the looks fool you. They are like the Secret Service. They'll take a bullet for the Pope in a New York minute, and will get any person who they see attempting it!

[Fishrrman]

Savage Beast writes [excerpted]:
To the extent that it is a political movement, Islam must be considered to be entirely a political movement and not a religion, and, as such, it cannot be tolerated, even in the West, committed as it is to freedom of religion.
The people of the West must clarify their thinking on this subject, and the sooner and the clearer, the better.

In its entirety, one of the best postings to ever appear on Free Republic re the War with Islam. Congrantulations for saying it better than ANYone has said it before.

This is the great conundrum confronting the Free West.

Our longstanding traditions of "freedom" and "egalitarianism" blind us to the reality that there is a large segment of the world's population who -- if we permit them to exist among us under _our_ principles -- will seek to DESTROY not only our principles, but US as well.

Islam and the West are irreconcilable. They cannot -- can NEVER -- coexist. Islam, by its own declaration, is the sworn enemy of all that "the West" represents. Beneath whatever facade they present before themselves, belying the "religion of peace", is the Islamic truth to create a single, unified Islamic world through conquest.

The irony is that the West has the power to halt the Islamic threat, to reverse it, to eliminate it. The West has the power, but they do not have the will.

Islam, conversely, lacks the power, but has more than enough will. Those under the thrall of Islam will keep trying to spread its influence until they are defeated. For them, there is no choice. That means there can be no choice for _us_, either.

Cheers!
- John

[mtbopfuyn]

Very interesting - one plane to Vegas and another to St. Pete's. I almost wish there had been an atempted attack on Vatican City as it'd wake up some of those riticuled us over Iraq. I think we can expect more and more "threats" on various Christian sites but the problem is to weed out the 99.99% of the insignificant blabbering to the one real plan.

[mtbopfuyn]

I'd much rather see the sign of the cross X in "Xmas" than that "G-d" which looks childish, an embarrassement, or a curse word.

[Malacoda]

Heck, I'd take a bullet for the Pope -- THIS Pope in particular -- in a New York minute.