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1 posted on 12/27/2003 9:34:17 AM PST by vladog
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I heard that Eminem practices
3 posted on 12/27/2003 10:59:35 AM PST by metalboy (Sure liberals protect the people, only 3001 must die first. 911 failed to meet the minimum.)
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Worth a bump. In deference to Murray, I'm pinging the elite portion of my list.
4 posted on 12/27/2003 11:00:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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Dr. Murray:
Inequalities of all sorts became disreputable during the last half of the 20th century. In the beginning, it was healthy — the Civil Rights Movement being the prime exhibit, but also feminism in its original form. Then we moved from the idea of giving everyone open opportunity to the idea that unequal outcomes are bad. If one celebrates the existence of genius, I guess the implication is that some people are immensely more skilled, more industrious, or more efficacious than others. Everyone knows it is true, but no one wants to say it, because it implies that some other people are dumb, lazy, or feckless — which in turn implies that some inequalities merely reflect real inequalities in ability. A certain way of looking at the world (and we're back to politics now) finds this offensive. I don't.
This is incorrect. it is not individual excellence--socialists celebrate individual excellence--but evidence of differing virtues in different politically selected subgroups (i.e., the accumulation of the individual excellences) which socialists resist.

Socialists strongly believe in the existence of elites--their fantasy is that Monday-morning quarterbacking qualifies themselves as members of the elite. They throng into journalism and the other entertainment media exactly in order to publicize their second guesses.

It was refreshing to this American "conservative" to find in the public library a musty tome of socialist ("liberal") claptrap. Refreshing, that is, because their claims that they could "decide between steam and diesel locomotives" via centralized planning board were not only .fatuous--with hindsight they were completely off-topic. They were worrying about old problems just as utterly new opportunities (miniature digital electronics) were coming at their blind side. And that is obvious now, but at the time a "conservative" who said something entirely new was more important than the apex of big-iron technology might easily have been dismissed as a kook.
What socialism actually proclaims is the priesthood of the public-relations/journalism "elite." It's an "elite" which you can easily join--you need only check your brains at the door and join the mutual admiration society mouthing conventional wisdom that the sky is falling and Republcans are to blame.
6 posted on 12/27/2003 11:24:47 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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Privatize every school in the country. I spent 40 years in public education, and I agree. There is nothing more political than our government owned and operated schools. Schools necessarily produce unequal results, but it is impossible for school managers to admit this, unless they are talking about their athletic programs.
7 posted on 12/27/2003 12:37:52 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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my second choice is to require that no one graduate from high school without having taken a solid, year-long course on statistical reasoning.

If this were done the lottery industry would collapse.

13 posted on 12/27/2003 4:17:33 PM PST by OldPossum
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Bernard Chapin: If you could mandate one educational reform for our public schools what would it be?

Dr. Murray: Privatize every school in the country.

I couldn't agree with the good doctor more.

14 posted on 12/27/2003 8:44:14 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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Good interview, thanx for posting it.
15 posted on 12/28/2003 7:44:49 AM PST by equus
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