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What this country needs is catchall term for those in military uniform: Any ideas?
STLtoday.com ^ | 12-27-03 | Harry Levins

Posted on 12/27/2003 10:03:37 AM PST by FairWitness

Edited on 05/11/2004 5:35:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Each year, Time magazine picks the "Person of the Year" (formerly known, in less sensitive times, as the "Man of the Year"). This year, that person is "the American soldier," and the magazine's cover shows three of them, all from the Army's 1st Armored Division.


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KEYWORDS: airforce; airman; anamericansoldier; army; manoftheyear; marine; marines; military; navy; sailor; soldier; timemag
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Warrior? Protector? Defender? Champion? Hero? Combatant? Fighter? Shield?

Whatever we call them, God Bless them for their service and sacrifice.

1 posted on 12/27/2003 10:03:39 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
Soldiers, sailors and airman.
2 posted on 12/27/2003 10:04:40 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: FairWitness
Call them all Sub Sailors, that way we won't be downgrading any of them.
3 posted on 12/27/2003 10:05:58 AM PST by Az Joe
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To: FairWitness
They are sometimes called "servicemen and women"
4 posted on 12/27/2003 10:06:57 AM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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To: FairWitness
"The Armed Forces" may work......
5 posted on 12/27/2003 10:07:34 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Az Joe
Our Military.
6 posted on 12/27/2003 10:07:52 AM PST by DJtex
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To: FairWitness
When a DemonRat is in the Whitehouse they think of them all as "CannonFodder", or as "Household Servants".

So9

8 posted on 12/27/2003 10:08:10 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable: or is that Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: FairWitness
Awesome
9 posted on 12/27/2003 10:12:27 AM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: Az Joe
Bubbleheads are bottom feeders.
10 posted on 12/27/2003 10:14:32 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: FairWitness
Warrior? Protector? Defender? Champion? Hero? Combatant? Fighter? Shield?

Works for me.

11 posted on 12/27/2003 10:19:39 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Dimension Zero)
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To: John Beresford Tipton
They are sometimes called "servicemen and women"

Accurate, and sounds O.K. too. I gather what the author is looking for is a term that is not too "wordy" - something that fits in a headline without taking up all the space, for example.

12 posted on 12/27/2003 10:21:32 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
1. So the word "troops" has morphed into meaning all military. So what? Works for me, unless you're addressing a specific branch.

2. Why can't Time ever get it right? While I appreciate them acknowledging our military for a change, why did they only show soldiers and use that name in the title. Guess no one pointed out to them that the WOT involved all branches, including CIA combat operatives. Could they not fit 5 or 6 people in their respective uniforms on the cover?

13 posted on 12/27/2003 10:22:00 AM PST by A Navy Vet (Happy Holidays to America's Armed Services!)
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To: FairWitness
American Patriots.
14 posted on 12/27/2003 10:23:24 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Johnny_Cipher
- - Defender? - - -

Works for me.

Defender is a good word, though you could argue that that term also applies to firemen and policemen.

15 posted on 12/27/2003 10:24:54 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: A Navy Vet
Could they not fit 5 or 6 people in their respective uniforms on the cover?

It was probably too confusing to the poor folks at Time to decide on the right racial and gender mix if they expanded the number of people in the photo. < /sarcasm>

16 posted on 12/27/2003 10:27:41 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
Defender is a good word, though you could argue that that term also applies to firemen and policemen.

Indeed true. I of course would include firefighters and police officers within that rubric.

17 posted on 12/27/2003 10:28:08 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Dimension Zero)
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To: FairWitness
Why are we even engaging in this politically correct nonsense?????

Is this FreeRepublic or DU?

There is nothing wrong with servicemen.

"...all men are created equal..." applies to both genders.

18 posted on 12/27/2003 10:29:44 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: FairWitness
Ass Kickers

Semper Fi
19 posted on 12/27/2003 10:29:51 AM PST by river rat
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To: FairWitness
Military Members.
20 posted on 12/27/2003 10:29:52 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Shit floats
21 posted on 12/27/2003 10:32:55 AM PST by Az Joe
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To: FairWitness
G.I.
22 posted on 12/27/2003 10:34:16 AM PST by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Crust ... Anti-Hillary)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Why are we even engaging in this politically correct nonsense????? - - - - There is nothing wrong with servicemen.

I agree with you, but the gender police have made it difficult if not impossible to maintain generic use of perfectly good words like "servicemen".

23 posted on 12/27/2003 10:36:07 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
(I can't help smiling at the thought of what would happen should a Time magazine reporter tap a Marine on the shoulder and say, "Hey, soldier.")

This sort of thing happens all the time, only in reverse. Let the Army do something good, and reporters will often report "American Marines scored another important victory today when they. . . ." I shouldn't be too sensitive about that, but as a soldier it always bugged me. Fortunately the press is getting better -- the "embed" program helped a lot.

And when a Marine (unfortunately) screws up badly, it happens the other way. A few Marines were implicated in a rape in Okinawa a few years ago, and press reports wouldn't often call them Marines. They were "service men" -- or even "soldiers"!

24 posted on 12/27/2003 10:39:13 AM PST by 68skylark
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Military Members

even if all in the military don't have members ???

Seriously, serviceman is very acceptable. Only a very few clintonistic women in the military object to it. Whatever, never call a Marine a soldier ...

25 posted on 12/27/2003 10:40:07 AM PST by fnord (Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence)
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To: FairWitness
"Whoop-assers" isn't bad.

"Fighters" also sounds pretty good.

26 posted on 12/27/2003 10:40:55 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: FairWitness
Now that we're all here voluntarily, I'd suggest the word 'Volunteers' or something similar. It would help break the connotation of war and the draft, for one thing, and it sounds more positive.

I'm also partial to the word 'Guardians'. It's slightly more formal than 'Defenders' even though they both imply that they are protectors 'of freedom', and it doesn't sound like it's short for 'Department of Defense employee'.

I really dig the word 'Crusaders' as well, if nothing else because of the ire it would generate from all over the world. Not enough euphemism for common use, though.

Old school works for me too, especially if you dig into our own heritage. I'd be happy with 'Gunslingers', 'Cowboys' or 'the Posse'. Simple, and to the point.

If you really wanted to dig deep you could go with 'Legionaries', 'Cohorts' or 'Hoplites'. I think these have a good ring to them, but I doubt they would catch on.

27 posted on 12/27/2003 10:45:41 AM PST by Steel Wolf (The Original One Man Crusading Jingoist Imperialist Capitalist Running Dog Paper Tiger himself)
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To: FairWitness
I'd go with warrior myself.
28 posted on 12/27/2003 10:49:57 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: FairWitness
"Troops" works for me. Sailors are trained on the firing range and strap on leggings to do guard duty.
29 posted on 12/27/2003 10:50:27 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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I'm also partial to the word 'Guardians'. It's slightly more formal than 'Defenders' even though they both imply that they are protectors 'of freedom', - - "

"Guardians" does have a nice ring to it. I think either term (and lots of others mentioned) would drive some of the libs "over the edge" if they were widely accepted.

30 posted on 12/27/2003 10:51:00 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
Troops.
31 posted on 12/27/2003 10:53:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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To: FairWitness
'Guardians' strikes me as too wussy. Same for Department of Defense. War is what it's about, and sugarcoating it implies we're ashamed of what the troops do. I don't think guarding really applies to fighting wars on other people's turf.
32 posted on 12/27/2003 10:58:11 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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Seriously, serviceman is very acceptable. Only a very few clintonistic women in the military object to it. Whatever, never call a Marine a soldier ...

Service-people-without-regard-to-sex-race-age-religion-sexualorientation-or-any-of-the-other-discriminatory-disclaimers-such-term-as-to-apply-to-any-member-of-the-military-without-any-consideration-of-pay-grade-or-rank-such-consideration-exclusion-void-in-vermont-and-massachussettes.

Or SPWRTSRARSOOAOTODDSTATATAMOTMWACOPGORSCEVIVAM for short.

33 posted on 12/27/2003 10:58:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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I like "GI" too. One great thing about it is that it can only refer to US military personnel. Lots of other countries have soldiers, Marines, etc., but GIs are always Americans and it translates easily into every language in the world. ("US has 130,000 GIs is Iraq"). I was in the Air Force and I and all my fellow members considered ourselves GIs, along with all the members of the other services.
34 posted on 12/27/2003 10:59:43 AM PST by deroberst
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To: Lazamataz
What's wrong with Armed Forces? It worked for many years.
36 posted on 12/27/2003 11:00:45 AM PST by basil
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The problem is, Armed Forces is an entity as a whole. Troops has traditionally referred to individual but multiple soldiers/sailors/airmen, and Troop -- at first a strange term, but you get used to it -- has traditionally referred to a single soldier/sailor/airman.
37 posted on 12/27/2003 11:03:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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To: FairWitness
If politically correct gets any worse, we won't be able to say

"human race",

it'll have to be

"huperson race".

SM
38 posted on 12/27/2003 11:05:45 AM PST by Senormechanico ("Face piles of trials with smiles...it riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave.)
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To: DJtex
Our Military.

Seconded. Covers everyone. Even the little clerks who punch buttons all day so those on the front line have ammunition rather then having to hunt for rocks to throw.

39 posted on 12/27/2003 11:09:34 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (If you offer someone a body part to slit, make certain it doesn't have a major artery.)
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***There is nothing wrong with servicemen***

My thoughts exactly. While I was sitting here trying to come up with examples where in the past age of sanity both men and women were included in the term "man" or "men", you beat me to it. The real world does not need to change on someones' whim. The more we lose sight of the anchors of this republic, the farther astray we go into meaninglessness.
40 posted on 12/27/2003 11:10:08 AM PST by Sir Charles
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To: FairWitness
Victors fits under GW
41 posted on 12/27/2003 11:12:54 AM PST by autoresponder (SLICK http://0access.tripod.com/legacy.html OLDIES BG MUSIC: http://0access.tripod.com/slick.html)
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To: FairWitness
"A" Team

Hogan's Heroes

Dream Team

42 posted on 12/27/2003 11:15:22 AM PST by budwiesest (Ain't making this up, read it on the internet.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Troop" was a word that the sergeants at Fort Polk (and maybe everywhere) used for an individual, such as: "Hey troop, drop and gimme 20 [pushups]!" For a collective term, there's nothing wrong with calling everyone "the military." But that doesn't give us a singular noun. Maybe there isn't one.
43 posted on 12/27/2003 11:16:42 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: FairWitness
I think they should have just used "American Military". We got a big kick out of calling our Marine and asking him how it felt to have his brothers as Person of the Year.
44 posted on 12/27/2003 11:17:42 AM PST by armymarinemom (My Son Liberated the Honor Roll Students in Iraq)
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To: FairWitness
Militarians?
45 posted on 12/27/2003 11:18:38 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Merry Shopping Season and a Happy Pre-Christmas Storewide Sales Event!)
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To: FairWitness
Noncivilians?
46 posted on 12/27/2003 11:19:40 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Merry Shopping Season and a Happy Pre-Christmas Storewide Sales Event!)
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To: budwiesest
"Your Worst Nightmare" or YWN for short.
47 posted on 12/27/2003 11:20:05 AM PST by budwiesest (Ain't making this up, read it on the internet.)
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To: FairWitness
Miliuniformants?
48 posted on 12/27/2003 11:20:37 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Merry Shopping Season and a Happy Pre-Christmas Storewide Sales Event!)
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To: AngrySpud
G.I.

Nothing else comes close. Been there, done that, and damn proud of it.

49 posted on 12/27/2003 11:21:56 AM PST by Rider on the Rain
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To: FairWitness
Defendants?
50 posted on 12/27/2003 11:22:08 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Merry Shopping Season and a Happy Pre-Christmas Storewide Sales Event!)
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