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Al-Qaeda blueprint exposed (Found out before they got us!)
The Mercury ^
| December 29, 2003
| Ben English, Ian Gallagher and Jef Sommerfield
Posted on 12/29/2003 12:57:57 PM PST by EsclavoDeCristo
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"I also don't think anyone would have a clue about sea mines from North Korea regardless of U2 flights or satellites." Who do we believe, Mr. Fergus or U.S. intelligence services?
To: EsclavoDeCristo
Who do we believe, Mr. Fergus or U.S. intelligence services?
hehe! You said U.S. Intelligence. Blackbird.
To: EsclavoDeCristo
The Tamil Tigers wouldn't assist AQ. They are Hindu and Christian, exactly the kind of folks AQ wants dead.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:10:19 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
To: EsclavoDeCristo
However the official said it would be "extra-ordinarily difficult" for a light plane to crash into a large passenger plane due to collision avoidance systems in larger airliners.Do these collision avoidance systems work when the airliner is taxiing on the runway? I didn't think so.
Can't these journalists think a little before they dribble out inane feel good (or bad) pronouncements?
To: BlackbirdSST
Seems Mr. Fergus thinks the U-2 (TR-1) is our only airborne intel asset.
He likely also believes you guys only took pictures.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:16:05 PM PST
by
ASA Vet
(Having achieved Nibbana, what can I do next?)
To: Pearls Before Swine
Also, the collision avoidence systems he's talking about assume that neither pilot involved wants a collision!
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:17:05 PM PST
by
Redcloak
(°¿°)
To: Pearls Before Swine
They work while taxiing... Itll beep all day instructing Mr Pilot that an insane islamunist is heading directly at them with no intention to stop...
They are force fields.... "Journalists" are morons.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:18:54 PM PST
by
smith288
(Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
To: ASA Vet; BlackbirdSST
He likely also believes you guys only took pictures. Might as well take it one further. Mr. Fergus may also believe it was an airborne/aerial asset...
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:24:34 PM PST
by
HiJinx
(INSCOM Alumnus)
To: HiJinx
Why isn't the US talking about this?
If I am reading this article correctly it sounds like they arrested the terrorists? The planes were already loaded with explosives?
To: EsclavoDeCristo
Plans for the attack emerged after a US spy plane discovered scores of acoustic sea-mines had disappeared from a naval base in North Korea. I'm no expert, but isn't it just as likely that the mines were just moved somewhere else?
To: HiJinx
What kind of "armada" do they think is necessary to achieve some kind of damage to a naval vessel? Wasn't the attack on the USS Cole done with an inflatable boat loaded with explosives? That proves it doesn't take much in the way of equipment, just killers looking for any opportunity.
To: I_love_weather
You read right. Why isn't the US talking about it?
Don't know, but here's some speculation. We don't talk about what we know from the intel community. Jimmy Carter did it with satellite imagery once, and the community has never forgiven him for it.
We do share some things with our foreign allies. Although we expect them to be circumspect in their use of US Intelligence reports, we cannot force them to be so. It's quite possible somebody felt the need for average citizens to know what we had stopped outweighed the need to keep the intel sources secret.
Mind you, this is merely speculation on my part and in no way is it to be construed as an official position...
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:41:55 PM PST
by
HiJinx
(INSCOM Alumnus)
To: diamondjoe
. . . acoustic sea-mines . . .The kind that make noise?
To: diamondjoe
Yes, it's just as likely...unless a US Navy P-3 Orion discovered those mines in the Straits of Gibraltar.
Again, just my opinion. But confirmation is generally key to releasing intel.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:44:22 PM PST
by
HiJinx
(INSCOM Alumnus)
To: Fester Chugabrew
No, the kind that are triggered by noise.
Supports the P-3 speculation...they use sonobouys that make noise. I don't know if they make enough to detonate the mines, though...
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:45:46 PM PST
by
HiJinx
(INSCOM Alumnus)
To: Fester Chugabrew
no silly..the kind with a hole in the middle and make a nice sound when you strum them.
To: thoughtomator
You don't know what a bond one murderer comes to share with another, no matter what "religious" convection they hast. It's a club. A "Catholic" hard IRA man or two has appeared beside Muslim terrs at places throughout the world, in active and support roles.
Even with Kennedy, do you think it was all protestants and atheists that allied to shoot him? I do not. I'd guess a few Catholics in the bigger conspiracy to kill one of their own.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:52:50 PM PST
by
bvw
To: Pearls Before Swine
However the official said it would be "extra-ordinarily difficult" for a light plane to crash into a large passenger plane due to collision avoidance systems in larger airliners. You've got a good point. It would not be difficult for a more agile 'light plane' to target a passenger jet.
The collision avoidance systems (TCAS) issues Traffic Advisories (TA) and Resolution Advisories (RA) to the pilot. The TA is a warning to the pilot and the RA is recommended pilot action...this all is dependent on the fact that both aircraft need to have their Transponders turned on and working and the pilots have to take action.
The TCAS provides safety information for the pilot, it will not prevent a collision if pilot action is not taken and it will not prevent a collision if another aircraft is 'purpose' flown into it.
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:58:55 PM PST
by
in the Arena
(1st Lt. James W. Herrick, Jr. - USAF - MIA - Laos - 27 Oct 1969)
To: Florida_Freeper
O, I see. Those "kinder, gentler" sea mines.
To: EsclavoDeCristo
He said the pilots were preparing to crash two light aircraft into a packed British Airways passenger jet while it was still on the tarmac at the airport in the Saudi capital of Riyadh. Both light planes had been crammed with explosives.
Not trying to toot my own horn, but I did predict almost exactly this scenario, though I assumed they would aim at the fuel tanks (some airports store up to a million gallons of jet fuel near the hangars). Thank goodness that they caught it in time.
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posted on
12/29/2003 2:02:25 PM PST
by
ikka
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