Rumbling on the Hard-Right

The Washington Times ^ | December 30, 2003 | Stephen Dinan

[GunsareOK]

President Bush is beginning to anger certain hard-line conservatives, particularly over fiscal issues, the way his father did in the year before he lost to Bill Clinton in 1992.

It's not clear how deep the dissatisfaction goes, and whether it will translate to damage at the polls in November.

[JohnnyZ]

If he does not let the AWB sunset, and make it perfectly clear that he will veto any re-introduction...he can kiss my butt.

He won in 2000 while promising to sign the AWB, though it's clear he'd rather have no part in it, and almost certainly won't have to sign it now.

So I take it you told him to kiss your butt in 2000 and voted for . . . Gore? Buchanan? Nader? Because Bush is only 99% pro-gun?

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"Bush will appoint no SC judges in the next 5 years. Not one activist judge, by nature, will step down and allow a conservative justice to be appointed. Not a possibility.
You think they will all still be alive in 5 years? I'd take that action, might even give you odds."

$500?

Your argument that the great conservative Bush will appoint SC justices is bullsh**. You have to rely on them DYING to even make the case. Yet, as a Bushbot, that is EXACTLY your LIKELY scenario. Sorry. No sale.

[!1776!]

That is what we called rock bands we liked in the 80's. Congratulations.

I thought you did like ad-hominems?

[waRNmother.armyboots]

Evidently, you do not value your vote as a vote for any one who does not have any remote chance of winning is a vote for the democratic candidate. President Bush has not been what I wanted in the fiscal conservative arena, the CFR (who would have ever thought the supremes would have upheld that piece of trash, or the border,ie illegal aliens issue, but I will take him over any of the democratic contenders any day and that is really the issue.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"The advancement of conservatism can not (and will not) happen overnight in this country."

It is not going to happen at all.

[Lael]

I'm one of the "hard-line conservatives" who won't be voting for Bush.

Each one has to make his/her own decision.

One issue that emerged from the California Recall is anger at pandering to Illegal Immigrants, and Bush could cause his own defeat.

[Texas_Dawg]

Your argument that the great conservative Bush will appoint SC justices is bullsh**. You have to rely on them DYING to even make the case. Yet, as a Bushbot, that is EXACTLY your LIKELY scenario. Sorry. No sale.

People like you have to lurk in the dark recesses of the web because very few people agree with you in real life. This is why you are statistically insignificant and why George W. Bush is very smart in ignoring you. Your candidate will be crushed by GWB in 2004. Enjoy. Loser.

[JohnnyZ]

That is what we called rock bands we liked in the 80's. Congratulations.

I would have said "wicked awesome", but I'm not sure y'all'd understand Mainer.

[OldFriend]

Some of these folks sound a lot like coward dean. If I'm not the candidate my constituency will NOT vote at all....so there!!!!

[FairOpinion]

"The advancement of conservatism can not (and will not) happen overnight in this country."

It is not going to happen at all.

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Especially, when people claiming to be conservatives are working hard to get leftist peaceniks like Dean get elected.

[Texas_Dawg]

and Bush could cause his own defeat.

Well, considering the chances of him losing are about 0, your statement is pretty pointless.

[antaresequity]

Bush will be re-elected in a landslide...By "True Conservatives"

My vote matters. Thats why I don't throw it away.

[GunsareOK]

I would write in Tom Tancredo.

But to answer the hypothetical of Bush, Nader, or Dean with no write-ins allowed, I would vote for Bush.

[Zipporah]

To have blind loyality to a party rather than principles is not being conservative.

I bet you think you've got it ALL figured out.. I could give a care if I am statistically insignificant or not.. matters not to me. SO you are saying I am a socialist.. NOW that is so ridiculous that it doesn't bear addressing. My loyalities are to God, Country and paleo-conservative values.

[StoneColdGOP]

Ok,I'll try with you-Where and when has President Bush ever said he supported amnesty for illegals ??

As I said on another thread minutes ago on this very topic:

Nor will he ever SAY it!

Some mid-level offical will announce it at a sparsely-attended press conference, if that.

And it won't be called "amnesty" either. Give Karl Rove time to come up with some non-offensive phrase for this most outrageous violation of America's integrity.

[Who is John Galt?]

One issue wonder - how will our (NRA here also) RKBA be reclaimed under a Democrat President?

The president swears an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. That makes the "one issue" the United States Constitution - "the supreme law of the land." That Constitution includes an amendment protecting our "liberty teeth" - the 2nd Amendment. But perhaps you can tell us "how [our RKBA will] be reclaimed under" any Republican president who ignores the Constitution he swore to preserve, protect, and defend? Is it magic? Something that automatically happens when a Republican is elected? "The world wonders"...

;>)

[Missouri]

The Nazis need to be (and are being) routed out of the GOP

You wouldn't know a Nazi if you were looking right at him.

You need to brush up on your history. By using this rhetoric you insult the soldiers who had to face the Nazis of WW2. No comparison.

[JustAnAmerican]

"who would have ever thought the supremes would have upheld that piece of trash."

The point is Bush was elected to the office he now holds because "He" was supposed to "Think" before acting. That's one of the reasons we elected him. CFR is the death of free speech just as turning a blind eye to illegal aliens is the death of America. And Bush has been in the drivers seat behind both of these.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

What gives you the right to judge whether or not people here are conservative or not? I've read all your posts and you're sitting on your high horse determining who's conservative and who's not.

There are a lot of people here who are dissatisfied with Bush's absymal domestic and immigration policies. Does that automatically make them DU members or DNC infiltrators?

I am sick and tired of those who tell us that if we don't toe the GOP establishment line and vote lockstep then we are "wasting our vote." Sorry, but my vote is not for sale to those who disregard the Constitution.

I like Bush and support him 110% on the war and foreign policy, but if he doesn't get in gear in regards to the aforementioned domestic and immigration issues then we may see a rerun of the 2000 election.