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Flynn: Dems ignore Catholics
Boston Herald ^ | December 31, 2003 | David R. Guarino

Posted on 01/01/2004 3:53:55 PM PST by NYer

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To: hunter112

As far as changes in the Catholic church go, do they still teach that people go to hell for masturbation? They still would have a massive problem with my three divorces! >>>

Ha, Ha, and the answer is Yes that it is still a mortal sin and as the church teaches one is judged by God after death and with mortal sin on one's soul we may be judged harshly. Genesis 38:8-10

Offenses against chastity

2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."138

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

2353 Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

2355 Prostitution does injury to the dignity of the person who engages in it, reducing the person to an instrument of sexual pleasure. The one who pays sins gravely against himself: he violates the chastity to which his Baptism pledged him and defiles his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit.139 Prostitution is a social scourge. It usually involves women, but also men, children, and adolescents (The latter two cases involve the added sin of scandal.). While it is always gravely sinful to engage in prostitution, the imputability of the offense can be attenuated by destitution, blackmail, or social pressure.

2356 Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. Graver still is the rape of children committed by parents (incest) or those responsible for the education of the children entrusted to them.

2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality.158 These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:159

Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.160

51 posted on 07/28/2004 10:07:34 AM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed her children?
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To: NYer

Of course they ignore the Bible-believing, faithful Catholics. They hold a worldview fundamentally opposite of what the leftists in the Democrat Party hold.

52 posted on 07/28/2004 10:09:16 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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On, wow! I've been looking for this ever since my computer crashed. Thanks everyone for bumping it up!

53 posted on 07/28/2004 10:14:26 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: hunter112
I guess that could mean letting one's marriage fall into being a sexless relationship, no thanks.

I suppose it "could" mean that, but in reality having the proper attitude toward sex -- that it's sacred, not recreational -- means having a far better marriage, in the bedroom and otherwise, than most everyone else on the planet.

Given your three divorces, are you really in a position to lecture anyone on what makes a happy marriage? Maybe you should exercise some humility and accept the possibility that you might need to re-examine some of your assumptions.

54 posted on 07/28/2004 10:19:15 AM PDT by Campion
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He supported President Bush in 2000 and will vote for him again in 2004.

This is GOOD.
I hope he is given a LOT of air time
between now and November's election.

55 posted on 07/28/2004 9:04:15 PM PDT by onyx (The FRENCH capitulate. Are you FRENCH or GOP? BUSH/CHENEY '04.)
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Given your three divorces, are you really in a position to lecture anyone on what makes a happy marriage?

Nope, I serve only as a good example of a bad example, I'll admit it. I hope my kids all choose better, but their mother's second marriage was to a convicted child molester, so I'm afraid they have to look elsewhere besides their parents for a really good example.

By the way, talk about a blast from the past, my original posts on this thread are about six months old, you folks must have been looking hard to find this ancient buried stuff to upbraid me for.

I got tired of living with the guilt of being Catholic some twenty years ago, just about everything connected with sexuality carries guilt in that religion. I've been fruitful, I've multiplied, I'm done with it. You may continue to deal with the myriad rules of Catholic Christianity, I will defend your right to do so.

56 posted on 07/28/2004 10:56:24 PM PDT by hunter112
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57 posted on 07/30/2004 11:43:49 AM PDT by timestax
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bump to the top
58 posted on 08/01/2004 9:18:12 AM PDT by timestax
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To: timestax

b t t t

59 posted on 08/01/2004 1:00:42 PM PDT by timestax
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