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President Bush Proposes New Temporary Worker Program [Transcript]
The White House ^ | Jan 7, 2004 | President George W. Bush

Posted on 01/07/2004 1:59:53 PM PST by NonValueAdded

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To: Ichneumon
I get the distinct impression that after a while the "other shoe" is going to drop on this proposal, which is much more stringent policing of the illegals who *don't* "register themselves" with a blue card.

What is stringent? Door to door searches for illegals who didn't get a blue card? Road blocks?

If Bush has done little to nothing about illegals who have committed felony document fraud and actually is talking about rewarding those who used or would claim they used a stolen Social Security number --- what possibly could he intend to do to those who stold a blue card? What happens to the illegal who decides to sell or share his blue card so a friend or neighbor can use it to cross the border? Green cards are very commonly sold to other aliens, who then report them stolen so they can get a replacement. This just adds another document that can be fraudulently obtained and used for whatever purpose.

321 posted on 01/07/2004 11:14:00 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Happy2BMe
Illegal immigrants already here will voluntarily come forward and participate. and

Many illegals have never obtained a Mexican matricula card for the exact same reason they won't be applying for a blue card.

Also --- if the government imposes labor and wage laws on the employers of the blue card holders ---- they'll just do what they have done all along --- hire illegals so they can make the maximum profit they can --- they've already proven they don't care one iota what the law is.

322 posted on 01/07/2004 11:16:33 PM PST by FITZ
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To: NonValueAdded
Don't make me laugh, Jorge.

The only thing we've got going for us is the politician's fear of us voting them out of office. It's the only power we've got, so let's use it!

If you've phoned, faxed and emailed already, do it again! Get on them morning, noon and night until this madness is totally defeated and the traitors voted out of office!

Get on your homeboys, people. Unless we get the numbers which will make them fear for re-election, it will be all over. There will be no going back. This is the showdown on the Immigration Issue. If you've been following along, you know that these people are costing the American taxpayers billions per year. They're taking jobs away from hardworking American citizens. They're draining our resources and giving very little back. This is it. If this is allowed to pass, we can quite literally kiss this nation goodbye. The massive population transfer that will take place is unspeakable. Do it now! Fight for your country and way of life!@


PUT A STOP TO IT NOW OR WE CAN KISS THIS NATION GOODBYE...LITERALLY.

It's NOT a migration, it's an invasion! Don't let them get away with this! SCREAM! Call toll free:

Whitehouse: 202-456-1414

Comment Line: 202-456-6213 and 202-456-1111

House and Senate: 1-800-648-3516

Rep. Nat'l Committee" 202-863-8500 (not toll free)

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Department of Homeland Defense: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/contactus

Department of Justice/John Ashcroft AskDOJ@usdoj.gov 202-353-1555

President Bush's Campaign BushCheney04@GeorgeWBush.com 703.647.2700

Republican National Committee info@rnc.org 202.863.8500
323 posted on 01/08/2004 12:50:32 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: gubamyster
bttt
324 posted on 01/08/2004 1:20:10 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: cruiserman
:-)
325 posted on 01/08/2004 3:02:16 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Southack
If they just stick with their current jobs, it will be as though Bush's new policy never happened. If Bush's new policy never happens, then what are you upset about with it?

This statement is so much convoluted BS it's unbelievable. The mere proposing of this policy will draw tens of thousands of additional, that is additional to those who were already planning to come, illegals. The 8-20 million illegal aliens already here are a burden and a danger to this nation whether Bush legalizes their presence by a defacto pardon or not.

326 posted on 01/08/2004 6:46:52 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
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To: Sabertooth; Southack
Southack: Please draw me a picture of how it would look on European cameras for 8 million illegals to be marched back to the border en masse.

Sabertooth: Who cares?

No kidding! Who gives a flying John Kerry what some bassackwards Eurotrash commies think. Start putting employers of illegal aliens in prison and they will deport themselves.

327 posted on 01/08/2004 6:51:57 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
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To: jsbankston
"I wonder why liberals are so angry at President Bush. From what I can tell Bush with his Amnesty
Program, CFR, Education Bill and 500 Billion Dollar Medicare Bill is being a much better liberal than Bill
Clinton ever dreamed."

I agree.

I think the kicker is the war thing. If he would just stop the war and apologize to the whole world for America being the source of all the world's problems then that would probably make them happy.

Oh, and the gay marriage thing.

These two items might be the only ones remaining to clinch the deal.
328 posted on 01/08/2004 6:58:56 AM PST by webstersII
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To: GSWarrior
"I have often wondered, in my naivete, why these 'jobs that Americans won't fill' can't be filled by those on
welfare, unemployment or prison worker release programs."

You're probably thinking of the potato-pickin' jobs and such, and I agree with you.

But just wait until the factories and tech companies realize that they can advertise for all these jobs that "no one in this country can fill" (yeah, right) and import all sorts of cheap labor from Mexico for mundane factory jobs, plus all sorts of cheap Indian labor for engineering jobs.

This might eventually do away with alot of the illegals and associated problems but it is going to do alot more to displace American workers than anything we have ever seen.
329 posted on 01/08/2004 7:03:08 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Southack
"8 million violators are being offered a plea bargain in which they can pay a fine, register, and enter into a
3 year visa program on probation. If they lose their job, break a law, or misbehave, then they get deported
and lose their eligibility to ever be in the U.S. again...and we will know where and how to deport them
because they have *registered*."

Prediction:
Within a year we will be hearing how sad the plight is of these people: "they will do anything to keep their jobs, becasue they will get deported without a job. This makes them almost like slaves and they have to endure harsh working conditions".
330 posted on 01/08/2004 7:11:00 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Beck_isright
"For the last 10 years an estimated 30 to 40 million U.S. citizens have not filed their income taxes. Last
time I checked there were not 30 to 40 million U.S. citizens in jail. So much for your theory."

Just a little aside about taxes: The IRS estimates tax compliance at about 83%. This is the highest in the civilized world, IIRC, but the IRS still complains about it. In some European countries it's 20-30%.
331 posted on 01/08/2004 7:16:26 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII
My point was that we can't enforce existing laws against illegal immigration or tax evasion or drug smugglers yet we're being led to believe that we're going to enforce new regulations in an efficient matter on the incoming 20 plus million illegal aliens?
332 posted on 01/08/2004 7:44:51 AM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: Tempest
If America did like Mexico and disallowed non-citizens from owning land within 5 miles of the coast (Which is a completely bogus Mexican law and also a prime reason to not playball with Mexico) I still think that the coast of coastal propoerty wouldn't be cheap, especially 1/2 a mile of beachfront property.

Too many people bidding on too little property = high prices.

Period.

And adding more immigrants, legal or illegal, will not help the problem.

There is only so much high-quality real estate.

And the more people you cram into America the lower the percentage of Americans that will own prime property.

Of course, the land-barons love this--but they already have their private acreage to retreat to, while our children will be forced to live in human-anthill high-rises.

333 posted on 01/08/2004 8:50:43 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
I know I will have to vote for Bush. Unless Tancredo runs.
But the bill still stinks. It lets the corrupt Fox continue to dump his social ills in the US. And Mexico's social ills are sucking our education and medical institutions dry.

It also makes me disappointed with Bush, which saddens me.
334 posted on 01/08/2004 9:47:40 AM PST by CaptainK
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To: CaptainK
I know I will have to vote for Bush. Unless Tancredo runs. But the bill still stinks. It lets the corrupt Fox continue to dump his social ills in the US. And Mexico's social ills are sucking our education and medical institutions dry.

You're probably right.

It stinks.

Send them back to Mexico!

And then boycott Mexican goods, including Mexican oil, until Mexico controls its own border.

If your neighbor's kids climb over your fence and dig holes in your backyard, who pays the bill?

The kids' parents.

As it should be with families and fences, so it should be with countries and borders.

335 posted on 01/08/2004 10:04:06 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: McGavin999
That is why a new law is needed. It spells out the rules clearly, offers a legal way to address the current situation, and if the employers STILL break the law there will be no arguement if they are fined and imprisoned>>>>>>

Well then let's SEE some new tougher laws on the books re: illegals & lets SEE them being enforced, before we're expected to accept ANOTHER amnesty.

btw *IF* GWB is so 'serious' about laws that can be enforced, why did he make this NEW, nation wide, work 'verification hot-line' only VOLUNTARY for employers to use??? SHEESH......this is just another LOOPHOLE for 'illegal employers' to continue to break our laws, & AVOID TAXES.
336 posted on 01/08/2004 10:30:19 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: McGavin999
Trust me, there are about one million legal immigrants admitted each year. It must be that 'green cards' only account for a small portion of them. But it is true that the number of legal immigrants admitted each year is about one million.
337 posted on 01/08/2004 10:35:58 AM PST by Aetius
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To: Aetius
There are quotas for each country. Do you know the quota for Mexico?
338 posted on 01/08/2004 1:20:25 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader-Have you donated yet?)
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To: txdoda
What is your source for that, I'd like to read it.
339 posted on 01/08/2004 1:22:22 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader-Have you donated yet?)
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To: Sabertooth
President Bush hasn't gotten serious about the 300,000 currently deportable Illegals running around the country, with their orders ready to go. 60,000 of them are from Islamic nations sympathetic to terror, and 4,000 of them have known terror links.

Saber, do you have a source for this?

340 posted on 01/08/2004 2:18:24 PM PST by browardchad
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