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Siberian Graveyard's Secret (More Redheads)
International Herald Tribune ^ | 1-8-2003

Posted on 01/08/2004 9:41:32 AM PST by blam

Siberian Graveyard's Secrets

YEKATERINBURG, Russia In a medieval Siberian graveyard a few miles south of the Arctic Circle, Russian scientists have unearthed mummies roughly 1,000 years old, clad in copper masks, hoops and plates - burial rites that archaeologists say they have never seen before. .

Among 34 shallow graves were five mummies shrouded in copper and blankets of reindeer, beaver, wolverine or bear fur. Unlike the remains of Egyptian pharaohs, the scientists say, the Siberian bodies were mummified by accident. The cold, dry permafrost preserved the remains, and the copper may have helped prevent oxidation. .

The discovery adds to the evidence that Siberia was not an isolated wasteland but a crossroads of international trade and cultural diversity, Natalia Fedorova of the Ural branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences said in an interview in her office in this central Russian city. Among the artifacts discovered at the site were bronze bowls from Persia, dated by style from the 10th or 11th century. .

William Fitzhugh, chairman of the department of anthropology and director of the Arctic Studies Center at the Smithsonian, who in 1997 took part in the first expedition to the site, said the findings filled "a gap we really need to know a lot about." .

The medieval cemetery, named Zeleniy Yar after a nearby village, is at the base of a peninsula called "the end of the earth" by the native Nenets people.
Archaeological surveys in 1976 uncovered ceramic remains suggesting an ancient settlement. On the 1997
expedition, Fedorova, Fitzhugh and their colleagues dug up a male in a wooden coffin with an iron combat knife, a silver medallion and a bronze bird figurine, from the seventh to ninth century. .

Later digs turned up still more graves. Eleven of the 34 remains had shattered or missing skulls and chopped skeletons. This may have been done right after death, "to render protection from mysterious spells believed to emanate from the deceased," Fedorova said in a report, or it may have been a result of ancient grave robbing. .

Another researcher, Dmitri Razhev, said that added evidence of what contemporary societies of the area consider "protective magic" include leather straps wrapped tightly around the bodies, as well as beads or chains and humanoid or birdlike bronze figures broken into pieces at the time of burial. .

The legs of the dead all point toward the nearby Gorny Poluy River, a position that Fedorova said might have had religious significance. Nearly all the graves have traces of coffins made of logs or boat parts. Several were apparently warriors buried with iron knives; others apparently died in battle, as suggested by arrowheads lodged in eye sockets and stab wounds in their backs. .

In 2000, the archaeologists found their first copper-shrouded mummy, a child with a face masked by copper plates. Three more copper-masked infant mummies were found in 2001, each bound with four or five copper hoops two inches wide. In the remains of a metalworking shop, the researchers excavated a wooden sarcophagus with the best-preserved mummy of all, a red-haired man covered chest to foot in copper plate and laid out with an iron hatchet, well-preserved furs and a bronze bear's head buckle. .

The researchers are continuing digs on another Siberian settlement south and west of Zeleniy Yar. .

Niels Lynnerup, director of the Laboratory of Biological Anthropology at the University of Copenhagen, who is not connected with the research, said in a telephone interview that the findings were remarkable.
"Archaeology is most important in those places where you don't have good written records," Lynnerup said. "So here, archaeology is terribly important." .

He added: "Often we find skeletons and nothing else. Here we have not only very detailed human remains, but excellent preservation of all their materials." .


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To: ChicagoHebrew
"Genetically, Kurds are the closest people to Jews in the world."

Isn't the area of the present day Kurds the area where the Assyrians took the Northern Tribes...I think Mosul is the same as Nineveh(sp). Your ideas?

41 posted on 01/08/2004 10:29:37 PM PST by blam
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"The Vikings were EVERYWHERE."

Nah, who-ever were the red-headed folks, they infiltrated the Vikings too.

42 posted on 01/08/2004 10:31:01 PM PST by blam
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Origin Of The Kurds

"Modern-day Kurds themselves trace their origin to the Medes, an Indo-European tribe that descented from Central Asia into the Iranian plateau around 614 B.C. as one of the principal pre-isramic iranian dynasties."

Wasn't it around 614BC that the Assyrians took the Northern Tribes captive and moved them into this area?

43 posted on 01/08/2004 10:47:24 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Isn't the area of the present day Kurds the area where the Assyrians took the Northern Tribes...I think Mosul is the same as Nineveh(sp). Your ideas?

It's the same general area. I haven't heard that Ninevah is Mosul, but I wouldn't be suprised.

The genetic connections between Kurds and Jews are strong-- but Kurdish bares no relation to Hebrew or Aramaic, and you don't find many cultural markers linking the two groups. So I personally think it's more likely that the genetic connection arises because Kurds originate from the same area as Abraham-- i.e. Abraham was likely a proto-Kurd before he became the first Hebrew.

Still, given the genetics, it's far more likely that the Kurds would be descended from the "lost" tribes than the Celts or any Europeans.

44 posted on 01/08/2004 10:49:46 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew
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To: blam
Wasn't it around 614BC that the Assyrians took the Northern Tribes captive and moved them into this area?

Yeah, about that time exactly.

45 posted on 01/08/2004 10:50:42 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew
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To: blam
Oh... might as well add that my parental grandfather (origin Southern Russia) and my maternal great-uncle (origin Belarus) both have red hair. I think I and my brother wound up with recessive genes-- we've got brown hair (mine's darker than his) but grow reddish beards.
46 posted on 01/08/2004 10:57:17 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Are Kurds Descended from the Medes?
47 posted on 01/08/2004 11:06:26 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; SunkenCiv
Blam! you scoundrel!
Why wasn't I pinged?
48 posted on 01/08/2004 11:07:52 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ChicagoHebrew
"Oh... might as well add that my parental grandfather (origin Southern Russia) and my maternal great-uncle (origin Belarus) both have red hair."

So, where did you get your red-headed genes?

Maybe from some of the folks in the article below?

The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mummy

(They were all over Russia and Belarus in ancient times)Ref: Victor Mair, The Tarim Mummies.

49 posted on 01/08/2004 11:12:29 PM PST by blam
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To: ValerieUSA; farmfriend
"Blam! you scoundrel!"

"Why wasn't I pinged?"

LOL! Hey, we have delegated responsibilities around here. FReeper 'farmfriend' is in charge of the ping list. Please ask her to put you on the GGG ping list.

50 posted on 01/08/2004 11:16:05 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; ValerieUSA
"Why wasn't I pinged?"

Consider yourself added. If you ever change your mind, or I get you on the wrong list, just let me know.

51 posted on 01/08/2004 11:21:17 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: blam
I don't need to be on the whole GGG ping list (but sunken_civ does) - I just need to be on the redhead ping list. *L*

52 posted on 01/08/2004 11:22:27 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: farmfriend
Thank You. :)
53 posted on 01/08/2004 11:23:00 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Actually, I'm not sure I'd seen these links before. Fascinating...

I've not read or reviewed it, and wonder if anyone here has read Elizabeth Wayland Barber's The Mummies of Urumchi
54 posted on 01/08/2004 11:24:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Pinging? Is that what you kids are calling it now?)
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To: ValerieUSA
"I don't need to be on the whole GGG ping list (but sunken_civ does) - I just need to be on the redhead ping list. *L*"

I don't think we have a red-headed ping list. Good-night.

55 posted on 01/08/2004 11:25:46 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
uh-oh
I called you sunken_civ, but you are SunkenCiv.
My bad.
56 posted on 01/08/2004 11:29:45 PM PST by ValerieUSA (I'm so sorry)
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To: blam
The full extent of Celtic civilization is only begging to be understood.
57 posted on 01/08/2004 11:31:47 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: SunkenCiv
"I've not read or reviewed it, and wonder if anyone here has read Elizabeth Wayland Barber's The Mummies of Urumchi"

Yup. I am presently completing it for the third time. Then, it's on to Victor Mair's, The Tarim Mummies, for the second time. The Tarim Mummies is the best. Victor invited Elizabeth Barber to become involved with his effort with these Caucasian mummies found in the Tarim Basin. Elizabeth is a textile specialist. The link in post #49 is about this subject. The Mummies of Urumchi is a good book too. (Victor Mair gives the whole story though)

58 posted on 01/08/2004 11:32:41 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Adiabene, Jewish Kingdom of Mesopotamia
by Jonah Gabriel Lissner
...two millennia ago this land sheltered the proud Jewish kingdom of Adiabene, with its capital at Arbela, nominally part of the Assyrian province of the Parthian Empire... Helena, Queen of Adiabene, ruled of an empire influenced by the sciences of the Hellenes and the arts of the Persians, in the old foothills of the northern Tigris, on the south shores of the Caspian Sea, ruled a land increasingly swayed by the policies of the Roman Empire of the east, even as memory of the old Alexandran customs had begun to evaporate from the hearts and minds of the residents. To her east lay the treacherous Parthians, to the north the unpredictable Saksa, Dane and affiliated horse-nomads.
Beyond the Mountains of Darkness

Historical Dictionary: Gozan

59 posted on 01/08/2004 11:38:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Median empire? What's next, the rest stop empire? [rimshot!])
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To: blam
I think I got them from the ancient Judeans, who always had them around.
60 posted on 01/09/2004 11:10:05 AM PST by ChicagoHebrew
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