Job Searches in 2003 the Longest in 20 Years

Reuters ^ | Fri January 9, 2004 03:45 PM ET | By Jonathan Nicholson

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Uh, what, precisely, do you mean by "lifesized downward"?

[futureceo31]

So according to your ideals, it is the job of the government to provide jobs for the public???

[RaceBannon]

oh, you count. I have been outside Engineering since June 2001!!

[sarcasm]

Huh?

[futureceo31]

Your point seems to be that Bush is providing jobs for mexicans but I am looking at the source of that argument to assume that Bush and the federal government is responsible for providing jobs to all americans and he is only doing that for the mexican (or illegals) since we went through this on the immigration threads without identifying that in a free-market economy, it is up to individuals, small businesses and corporations to provide jobs for the populace.

[futureceo31]

What bout all the manufacturing jobs that went to China during the Clinton years. You can spend days in Walmart looking for an item made in any other place except China.
Its called a global economy and companies are doing what they have to do to stay profitable.
I would be interested in finding out about unemployment in other first world economies, that I am sure is worse than our unemployment numbers...

[sarcasm]

Is it your contention that illegal aliens are not taking jobs from American citizens?

[Happy2BMe]

Jobs Americans Won't Do: Voodoo Economics from the White House.

[jpsb]

Pay back time is comming, remember 94 GOP? Well this time you are the target. Stop giving our jobs away!

[RckyRaCoCo]

So according to your ideals, it is the job of the government to provide jobs for the public???

So according to your ideals, it is the job of the government to provide remove jobs for the public???

[j_tull]

4 months here, still only working temp/contract jobs for 1/2 of previous income.

[futureceo31]

Though based on your handle (send jobs to India), there are going to be some major changes with this philosophy in the next few years as companies are finding out that having their development done in India is not as cost worthy or productive as they thought it to be. Innovation has and always has come from the US and there is going to be some soul searching among companies who have sent jobs in mass to India.
Also, on a secondary level, I think this is going to also result in the secondary and lower level jobs that will stay in those countries and companies here forced to hire Americans and maybe send them to India and other places to do management and supervisory type jobs to produce american standard quality. That does not exist currently in quite a few of the programs coming out of India as I have seen that first hand...

[futureceo31]

It is the free market economy that creates and removes jobs. Capitalism 101..:)

[Happy2BMe]

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[futureceo31]

Looking at a majority of these jobs, are they being taken away or are they being fulfilled by illegals since americans do not want to work for those wages. But we have argued this in the immigration thread posts so I guess you will have your views and I will have mine..:) good to see some level headed discussions though...

[RckyRaCoCo]

It is Government intervention that stifles free markets..(Politics:101)

[blueriver]

There is something that I first hadn't considered with the Bush proposal, the guest worker program does not just include Mexicans it includes any foreign worker. This will be exploited by large firms offering the replacement of American workers -legally.. not having to deal with the H-1 visa program. There is no provision in Bush's proposal to prevent it.

Exactly. In fact the guest worker program will more likely be used to fill white collar jobs because the employers of those jobs are not paying sub minim wage. Why would an employer of an illegal want to pay the workers minimum wage under a guest worker program? If you think about it long enough you will realize this guest worker program has very little to do with illegal immigration rather it is a replacement for the H-1B visa program. Only no one is talking about it that way. No one realizes that this will have a major impact on every job in the US.

[sarcasm]

I guess that you've never heard of supply and demand. Illegal aliens push down the salaries offered to a point where Americans will not do the jobs. It's not rocket science.

[jpsb]

There is no job that an American will not do. American just want to be paid a descent wage for doing it. Yall are making a big mistake importing cheap labor where you can and exporting jobs to cheap labor countrys. A very big mistake, the back lash at the polls this November will be like 94.

[RaceBannon]

How many times do I have to change?