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Soviet Army fought UFOs
Pravda ^ | 1.23.04 | Alexander Dremin

Posted on 01/23/2004 3:00:06 PM PST by mhking

Soviet military encountered many UFOs, maybe for this reason in the end of the 60s a secret laboratory of researching "flying objects" was created in the USSR.

UFO researchers often blame the military of hiding the cases of alien rockets and disseminating false information of UFO. Army officers are not interested in the disputes about alien civilizations, they are interested in knowing what impact UFO can impose to military equipment and personnel.

1947. Antiaircraft guns of Transcaucasian Military District fired on the flying cigar-shaped object which came from the side of the Turkish border. The object"s flying altitude was below 4,000 meters, and the guns were capable of reaching a target at the altitudes up to 12,000 meters, but that time the fire made no harm to the "cigar". Then the cigar increased its speed and flew away over the mountains.

This incident could cause much trouble, because earlier the border guards and military ships monitoring service missed this target. Then the military was unable to trace this flying object over the country"s territory. The Border District command ignored and ordered the monitors not to disclose the information that the object reached a speed up to 2000 kilometers per hour.

Similar case took place in 1984 in Turkestan Military District. Near the city of Astrakhan air-defense system marked the ball-shaped object flying at the altitude of 2000 meters along the Caspian seashore in the direction of the state border. The object did not respond to the inquiry made by the military on the radio. Two fighter-planes took off, but they were unable to bring the object down. After being under fire, the object descended up to 100 meters, and at this low altitude the planes were unable to continue firing. Despite being fired at, the object was having a regular speed. The ball passed over several military units, which allowed to make its photo. Near the city of Krasnoyarsk the military tried to bring the object down with the helicopter.

However, it quickly increased its altitude so that the helicopter could not reach it. After firing all its supply of shells, the helicopter landed, and the ball abruptly flew in the direction of the sea and disappeared from the radar screens.

In the same area the similar scenario case happened later. The object having the shape of cylinder demonstrated its invulnerability.>

Such a demonstration could be the purpose of its flight, because this UFO was having a speed of 100 kilometers per hour.

One can blame the military of inhuman actions on bringing down flying objects. But what can they do if the object was moving in the direction of the state border and they had the order to destroy such objects?

In 1985 near the town of Krasnovodsk the radar station under the command of Captain Valuev registered the disc-shaped object in size of 1,000 meters! The object was immovable, and some time later a small disc in size of 5 meters flew out of it and then landed on Krasnovodskaya spit. Patrol boats rushed to that area, but when they reached the distance of 100 meters from the object, it took off and flew one kilometer away. This happened five times. Then the object flew up at a huge speed, reached the bigger disc, which finally flew away spaceward.

In the end of the 60s a secret laboratory of researching "flying objects" was created in the USSR. Among the laboratory"s tasks was researching anti-gravitation, but the research results were made secret. Its testing area was near the town of Kapustin Yar on purpose. In the end of June of 1971 the military could see over this area a black cigar-shaped flying object floating under the clouds at the altitude of 800 meters. The object was 25 meters long and had about 3 meters in diameter. It had neither stabilizers nor wings nor engines and was moving at the speed of 150 kilometers per hour producing no noise.

In 1978 ЦНДС Soviet Ministry of Defense accepted Network MO program. Special military unit in the town of Mytishi was in charge of collecting data, and newly established "space troops" were designated to fight possible threat from space.

In the beginning of August 1987 five soldiers of Leningrad Military District went to the North of Karelia region on a special mission. They were required to guard the object of unknown origin. It was found on the territory of another military unit near the town of Vyborg. The item was 14 meters long, 4 meters wide, 2.5 meters high. The object had neither doors no hatches, and all attempts to open its hull were unsuccessful. The military tried to break off some object parts, but were only able to take some rods from its stern. In the end of September the object disappeared from the hangar without leaving a trace.


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1 posted on 01/23/2004 3:00:06 PM PST by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
"By your command..."

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

2 posted on 01/23/2004 3:00:37 PM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
To serve man

3 posted on 01/23/2004 3:03:19 PM PST by evets (Zot me baby!)
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To: mhking

4 posted on 01/23/2004 3:04:31 PM PST by mgstarr
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To: RadioAstronomer
You've been looking in the wrong place. You should have been looking in Russia.
5 posted on 01/23/2004 3:05:23 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: mhking
So our stuff does work!
6 posted on 01/23/2004 3:06:04 PM PST by 11B3 (Let's get as much of our nation back as we can in 2004.)
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To: mhking
God bless Area 51 and Dreamland.

And someone teach those Pravda writers better english.

7 posted on 01/23/2004 3:09:53 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: mhking
Yes, I heard of a few "UFOs" they shot down. The largest was a KAL Boeing 747, I believe.
8 posted on 01/23/2004 3:11:10 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: mhking
Vodka abuse has been a long-term problem.
9 posted on 01/23/2004 3:13:13 PM PST by verity
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To: mhking

10 posted on 01/23/2004 3:22:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: mhking
Supposedly, the Germans had a subterranian Antarctic UFO base in the 1930's. Even sent crews to mars in 1938 or 1939.

They were the ones that said you could make your own space vehicle powered by two air-cooled VW engines, that the moon atmosphere was "thin" but didn't require any breathing apparatus and that the temperature was "cool" but only required sturdy (wool) clothing.

I actually sent away for the plans for the space vehicle but got my letter back as "no such person at that address." I guess they had to leave.

11 posted on 01/23/2004 3:25:17 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: mhking
Blame it on the Stargate.
12 posted on 01/23/2004 3:28:35 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: mhking

With global domination behind them, they turned to their next objective: the conquest of space. After considerable vodka and midnight oil, their research and development work led to the construction of the hotnik lunar rocket. Its power source was a steam-turbine engine based on the principles of the sauna stove. Veiled in the strictest secrecy, the first moon flight took place in 1959, with the launching staged - partly for sentimental reasons - back of the Cowboy’s sauna.

13 posted on 01/23/2004 3:28:47 PM PST by weegee
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To: mhking

14 posted on 01/23/2004 3:31:20 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
"Would YOU like to learn MORE?"
15 posted on 01/23/2004 3:32:49 PM PST by mhking
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To: mgstarr
Klatu barada nikto.
16 posted on 01/23/2004 3:36:28 PM PST by mercy
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To: mhking
I knew it! Finally, the truth comes out! My kids told me a UFaO was hovering over a shopping center a few years ago, and I refused to stop. (Never lived this down.) Oddly, nobody else in the intersection seemed to see the UFO, but I digress. News from the Russian UFO front finally vindicates a bunch of ten year olds. Hmm.
17 posted on 01/23/2004 3:42:51 PM PST by hershey
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To: mhking
"In the end of the 60s a secret laboratory of researching "flying objects" was created in the USSR. Among the laboratory"s tasks was researching anti-gravitation, but the research results were made secret. Its testing area was near the town of Kapustin Yar on purpose."

Isn't this the town where Boris Badinoff was born and raised? Could this be the genesis of UPZIDAZIUM??!!!
18 posted on 01/23/2004 3:45:03 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: mhking
Every time for me to read article from Pravda, I have uncontrollable urge to read in most bad Russian accent. da!
19 posted on 01/23/2004 4:00:55 PM PST by uglybiker (nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh BATMAN!)
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To: Light Speed

20 posted on 01/23/2004 4:04:11 PM PST by motzman (Homer Stokes / Reform in '04)
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To: Who dat?
I got my plans from these folks- used a motor out of a early 60's bug and a micro bus. The kids, old lady and me quit going to the lake a couple years ago cause it was crowded, no most weekends we take the space craft to the moon.

Only problem is I have to relash the valves every 10,000 miles, so we have a few stops on the way.
21 posted on 01/23/2004 4:23:25 PM PST by AlbertWang
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To: evets
Say, if they can't shoot them down - then where did they get the body? The Russkies are hiding something!
22 posted on 01/23/2004 4:26:19 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: reagandemocrat
Must be similar to the "unobtainium" substance they made the earth-boring vehicle out of in "The Core". Flying squirrel and moose would know.
23 posted on 01/23/2004 4:44:18 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (New World Order. Let's just order a whole new world.)
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To: mhking
"...the flying cigar-shaped object which came from the side of the Turkish border."

So you see, Hillary, she was heiping out with...important weapons research. (Yeah, that's the ticket!)
24 posted on 01/23/2004 4:51:06 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Our purpose is To Serve Man.)
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To: mhking; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
UFO LIST PINGO BINGO.

A thought has gone through my head recently . . .

That other countries will be tasked with "OUTING" the UFO stuff in an accelerated but graduated way ahead of the USA. Then the USA will come in with the definitive, supposedly comprehensive over view, bottom line, therefore what etc. . . . . after the earlier disclosures by other countries have been monitored carefully to fine tune the US's disclosure.

Anyway--has anyone else had any similar thoughts?
25 posted on 01/23/2004 4:58:15 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: 11B3
i DON'T doubt we have stuff that works.

I almost wonder if we lifted the craft from their hanger instead of ET's doing it.

I don't know how cooperative we are with them on the subject.

The picture on that score is very mixed, indeed.
26 posted on 01/23/2004 5:00:19 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: AlbertWang
The plans I ordered were from a suite in Los Angeles. They were never delivered. I just figured that they had more pressing duties elsewhere... or something.

They never cashed the check. That's something.. Or not - you can't tell, I guess.

27 posted on 01/23/2004 5:02:34 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: mercy

28 posted on 01/23/2004 5:26:13 PM PST by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: mhking


Mindfull of recent reports of supposed UFO activity around his military base on the outskirts of St. Petersburg, Private Yuri Volodkovich stands guard against any intrusion of Soviet airspace by the Imperialist UFO interlopers.
29 posted on 01/23/2004 5:26:48 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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To: mhking
Klaatu barada nikto.

Interesting.

30 posted on 01/23/2004 5:50:28 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: mgstarr
One of the zany aspects of The Day the Earth Stood Still was that the suave alien (Klaatu, played by Michael Rennie) was advocating some sort of world government by the UN along the lines of the World Federalists.
31 posted on 01/23/2004 5:52:31 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: mhking

32 posted on 01/23/2004 6:03:14 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi; mhking
I thought "The Day the Earth Stood Still" was a modern story of Christ. An omnipotent and omniscient being (Klatu) comes in human form and in peace to warn man to practice the Golden Rule or else face eternal death by fire and brimstone. He is killed and his disciple (robot) who does his bidding brings him back and lays him in state (inside the ship) where he shortly thereafter comes back to life. He appears once again before man and then is lifted up into the heavens (blasts off).

That cinema class I took in school was not a waste of time, eh????

33 posted on 01/23/2004 6:05:01 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (Sic Semper Tyrannus)
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To: mhking
You need a Pravda Alert.
34 posted on 01/23/2004 6:09:25 PM PST by js1138
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To: reagan_fanatic
Any fool can see that's a secret Cuban aircraft, hand-rolled in Havana.
35 posted on 01/23/2004 6:16:41 PM PST by Bernard Marx ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid." Damon Runyan.)
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To: Quix
Wish they all would tell everything they know.


36 posted on 01/23/2004 6:34:31 PM PST by potlatch (Whenever I feel 'blue', I start breathing again.)
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To: potlatch
I think not in this life.

Few ever tell ALL they know about much of anything . . .

except for some diarrhea mouths . . . but then, that's not all they know--it's all they've heard on the grape vine. They ran out of all they knew in kindergarten and haven't learned anything of any real substance since.

Seriously . . . in terms of UFO's, I don't think we'll know the whole truth in any significant meaning of the term until Christ sets up His Kingdom tangibly on earth from Jerusalem. Perhaps we'll know in the 1,000 years of perfect Peace.

But I do expect it to be interesting what our government and/or the Disclosure project and/or the puppet masters put forth as 'the truly true truth.'

Will it be part of what the Bible calls the GREAT DECEPTION of the end times?
37 posted on 01/23/2004 6:55:43 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix
i DON'T doubt we have stuff that works.

I almost wonder if we lifted the craft from their hanger instead of ET's doing it.

LOL!

What does 'it' run on - Unobtanium?

LOL!

38 posted on 01/23/2004 6:59:34 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: mhking
    Soviet Army fought UFOs

Shadow boxing - they were chasing RADAR anomolies and sun 'glint' off distant aircraft sometimes modified by diffraction caused by the boundaries of two different air masses ...

In ALL the discoveries by ALL the dedicated scientists and chemists and alchemists who preceeded them - not ONE credible account has made it into the objective, deadly serious journals though the ages.

SURE, sightings, observations, BUT, not *one* craft has been 'taken into possession' and dismanted; each artifact of that craft carefully documented, sketched and described.

If one HAD ever been documented that way YOU CAN BE SURE that references (cites in the footnotes) would be made from now 'til eternity by every 'researcher' in this field ...

39 posted on 01/23/2004 7:07:12 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: 19th LA Inf
The largest was a KAL Boeing 747, I believe.

And the fastest would have been Francis Gary Powers in a U-2 ...

40 posted on 01/23/2004 7:09:30 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim
BUT, not *one* craft has been 'taken into possession' and dismanted.

This may be true for the Soviets, but what about Roswell?

41 posted on 01/23/2004 7:10:33 PM PST by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: mhking
Pravda used to be the New York Times of Russia. Now, it's worse than Weekly World News.

Of course, the accuracy has remained the same, but Pravda today can't even pretend to be taken seriously.

42 posted on 01/23/2004 7:13:34 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Momaw Nadon
This may be true for the Soviets, but what about Roswell?

Sorry, I'm not cleared to speak on that event ...

43 posted on 01/23/2004 7:18:19 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: mhking
It looks like they are smoking more than cigars in Russia.

Wow! Dudeskey!!! a UFOskey!!!



44 posted on 01/23/2004 7:26:20 PM PST by Louisiana
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To: Momaw Nadon
Okay - I just sought and obtained the following 'official dope' on Roswell:
The initial Roswell story was based on the crash of a balloon used to study radioactivity in the atmosphere. At the time (in 1947) it was a classified program called Project Mogul. The debris which was found was positively identified as balloon remains, along with some radar reflectors.

The incident was blown out of proportion at the time because it happened to coincide with the first "flying saucer" sighting to get big media coverage. Subsequently, the whole thing was forgotten for 30 years, not even making it onto the "Top 100 UFO sightings" list put out in the 70s.

Then, in 1978, the National Inquirer published a story on Roswell. Witnesses suddenly started popping out of the woodwork with stories of alien bodies and military conspiracies, which brings us to where we are today.

The Pentagon thoroughly investigated Roswell and published two reports, the most recent called Roswell: Case Closed in 1997.

Of course, the UFO nutters claim that the Pentagon is just part of the conspiracy, so there's no hope of convincing them merely by presenting a detailed report with all the evidence, is there?


45 posted on 01/23/2004 7:26:46 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: mhking
The ball passed over several military units, which allowed to make its photo.

Well, comrade, I would like to see photo that ball allowed them to make.

46 posted on 01/23/2004 7:28:31 PM PST by New Horizon
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To: mgstarr
"Klatu Velachi Nixto", "Er - No that's not right!"
"Klaxo Versaci Nono", "Er - Not that either!" -
"Now how did that go?" To save the world from
being exploded by aliens I have to say it just
right so the alien robot guy will stop the explosion -
"Lessee, er, Klacko Vellata Jello?", "No, not that
either!" - "I'm afraid ya'll are on your own!" Unless
one of you can come up with the right phrase pronounced
correctly, it's all shewrote!
47 posted on 01/23/2004 7:29:39 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: mhking
"In 1985 near the town of Krasnovodsk the radar station under the command of Captain Valuev registered the disc-shaped object in size of 1,000 meters! The object was immovable, and some time later a small disc in size of 5 meters flew out of it and then landed on Krasnovodskaya spit."

1,000 meters wide . . hmmmm....

I wasn't aware mass drunkeness was permitted in the old Soviet miltary. Especially during broad daylight. Had we only known then . .

48 posted on 01/23/2004 7:36:14 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: _Jim
We shall see.

Supposedly there are 3-5 DIFFERENT environmentally clean, virtually free sources of energy that we've kept under wraps for decades.

We shall see.

I just collect puzzle pieces and wait and see what's confirmed.

I do believe we have more than a couple of essentially free energy technologies hidden away.

I also believe we have hidden oil reserves of great size. But I could be somewhat wrong about that. The size may not be as big as I think.
49 posted on 01/23/2004 7:39:48 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: evets
"In the beginning of August 1987 five soldiers of Leningrad Military District went to the North of Karelia region on a special mission. They were required to guard the object of unknown origin. It was found on the territory of another military unit near the town of Vyborg. The item was 14 meters long, 4 meters wide, 2.5 meters high. The object had neither doors no hatches, and all attempts to open its hull were unsuccessful. The military tried to break off some object parts, but were only able to take some rods from its stern. In the end of September the object disappeared from the hangar without leaving a trace."

Pics of the object that disappared without a trace.

50 posted on 01/23/2004 7:41:47 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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