Interview with David Kay - "I don't think [stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons] existed"

IOL/Reuters ^ | 1-24-04

[AlbionGirl]

Respectfully, a problem I see w/your analogy is that in place of a one on one confrontation w/said murderer, we demanded that young men and women do our bidding in Iraq.

We -the average Joe or Jane looking to the Government for protection- defended and continue to defend ourselves by proxy. I'm not saying that I don't understand or think it necessary to do so, only that it carries a moral weight much heavier than the illustration you referenced.

I think that this story has the power to hurt President Bush in that it will make it very, very difficult in the future to pursue potential threats based on the same rationale.

[Selene]

Two Iraqi scientists that were talking to Kay were assassinated by Saddam's thugs.

Why would they bother if there was no WMD?

[pickemuphere]

It's the intelligence, stupid.

No, it was stupid intelligence.

[pickemuphere]

Two Iraqi scientists that were talking to Kay were assassinated by Saddam's thugs. Why would they bother if there was no WMD?

Link?

[aristeides]

Why would they bother if there was no WMD?

Haven't a lot of other Iraqis who were thought to be cooperating with the occupiers been killed?

[RandallFlagg]

I think Kay told Tony Snow this in an interview.

[billbears]

Say there's a guy in your neighborhood who says he has a gun, and he wants to kill your family....YOU do NOT really KNOW if he has a gun, and he hasn't attempted to kill your family lately, but, he sure talks a lot about it, and he has family members saying the same thing....WHAT would YOU DO?

Except the fact that the 'guy' isn't in your neighborhood, he's three cities away, he has no transportation to get to your neighborhood, and after a few minutes of observation you realize he was just talking trash to appear to be the big guy in his neighborhood.

[eyespysomething]

That's what I mean. Bush should come out strong on this.

Also, he said from the beginning that a big reason was to free the people from Saddam's grip of terror. They should have played that angle more to the American people, and the UN.

Still, someone has to answer for the intelligence.

It was a just war, and will remain one.

[Selene]

Two Iraqi scientists that were talking to Kay were assassinated by Saddam's thugs. Why would they bother if there was no WMD?
Link?
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It was on PBS Frontline two nights ago. Kay seemed quite disturbed by it.

[Tribune7]

The left and dems will use this big time to beat the dead BushLied horse.

You're right. I just had a dicussion with a co-worker about this.

Of course, he didn't lie. Here's quotes on what he said. Look at Dubya's comments. He never says Iraq has WMD. He uses phrases like "we have sources that tell us" and "our intelligence officials estimate."

I have no doubt he believed what he was saying.

Note that the site's an anti-Bush site.

[keri]

ping

[CMClay]

I was always leery of using WMD as the sole premise for going to war.
I knew that we had bombed the heck out of them for 10 years, and that most chem and bio weapons have a 'shelf-life' of only a few years, there wasn't going to be "tons and tons" of these weapons as Cheney kept saying.
They should have at least 2 points, one being humanitarian, many on the left would have gone along, and could not then accuse Bush of lying.

[RandallFlagg]

Bookmarking

[UB355]

Bush will be accused of lying no matter what he says. Bill Clinton was never accused of this after his statement in 1998.

[goodnesswins]

OKay...so change the story....THE "guy" has NUCLEAR capabilities, or is trying to get them to blow YOUR neighborhood to smithereens....by proxy.

[billbears]

Except the fact that we had already ransacked the guy's house, his own family in 1995 comes out and admits he has no gun and hasn't for many years, and the 'nuclear' story has questionable beginnings at best. Not the best reasons to go burn the guy's house down I'd say

[Sacajaweau]

We saw it live on TV: Missiles which would go beyond the specified limits. The Iraqis protested that they would not go that far. But we found that to be a bare-faced lie.

Fool me once, shape on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

The words "I think" means Kay doesn't know not that they don't exist.

Blix's words were: "Unless they take them to us, we will never find them".

[7.62 x 51mm]

"...but I think he's gone either before or shortly after the election anyway."

Cheney's off the ticket?

[tallhappy]

Not the best reasons to go burn the guy's house down I'd say

Why do you think Iraq belonged to Saddam Hussein?

[goodnesswins]

Oh, I forgot....he's been raping and pillaging the rest of his neighbors, and they've been TRYING to deal with him, but it hasn't worked.....which is why WE ransacked his house in the first place.....but, hey, who care, let 'em be....it's NOT OUR PROBLEM....yet