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Republicans warn Bush on immigration policy
Washington Times ^ | 1/28/04 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 01/27/2004 10:30:57 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DENVER - Twenty-three congressmen warned President Bush in a letter yesterday that he risks an election-year backlash from Republican voters if he continues to press his guest-worker proposal.

The Republican lawmakers said their congressional offices have received a flood of angry letters, e-mails and phone calls from Republican constituents vowing that they will refuse to vote for the president if his program is approved.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; backlash; gwb2004; illegals; immigrationplan; invasion; nannystate; virgilgoode; welfarestate
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To: Texasforever
Those go to citizens. You get real, I have no desire to have to move my family because my state has been overrun by lawbreakers due to Bush's actions.

We threaten people who download music files with jail time and large fines, yet we do next to nothing to those that violate our border. And yet people still believe Bush when he says he wants to protect us. His actions show that to be a lie.
51 posted on 01/27/2004 11:26:28 PM PST by DMCA (Illegal Aliens get out of jail free, Illegal song swapping - pay large fines/goto jail...)
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To: lewislynn
The cat's outta the bag. As far as I'm concerned the damage is done no matter what he does now. I no longer trust him.

Apparently Bush wasn't watching TV when Gray Davis suggested giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, while spending tax money like a drunken 22 year old sailor, as Californian's marched Davis to the gallows and hung him with a political rope

The greatest state of the greatest country on earth


52 posted on 01/27/2004 11:26:46 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Texasforever
I would not have known about what he said as governor, and to be honest, I would have voted for him, just to make sure Gore did not get in. I know he mentioned it before 9/11, with his meeting with Fox.

To All

Why won't you help us call, write, and fax the president, senate and house, asking them not to vote or pass any immigration law, until they enforce the Federal Immigration Laws of the United States, that is the law now.

If the Senate and Congress get enough flack, they will hesitate to pass any thing pertaining to immigration.
Donate and support any body running for the senate and house that has a firm stand against any amnesty or guest worker program.
53 posted on 01/27/2004 11:27:17 PM PST by calawah98
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To: DMCA
Well, let me put it to you this way - with regard to my vote - when Bush, Sr. was running a second term - we were disgusted and voted Peroh. Well, you know what the outcome of that was - we got stuck with a Clinton for 8 years. I will write my senator prior to November, 04. That is the best I can do. I refuse to get stuck with a Kerry character.
54 posted on 01/27/2004 11:27:41 PM PST by LaurieB (It just goes to show you......)
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To: DMCA
You get real, I have no desire to have to move my family because my state has been overrun by lawbreakers due to Bush's actions.

Damn the drama queen award of the day.

55 posted on 01/27/2004 11:28:26 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: gatorbait
A great deal of California's problem with illegals ,and other things, is a mostly a self inflicted wound. Too generous social welfare,

Alot of the problem in the West is the powerful Hispanic lobbies and groups like the Ford Foundation buying the politicians. Even many of the liberals are against the invasion. The Politicians are owned by business and foreign interests. AZ is a good example of that. Look at that bunch! But most of the people are dead set against it.
56 posted on 01/27/2004 11:29:08 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: LaurieB
Well, let me put it to you this way - with regard to my vote - when Bush, Sr. was running a second term - we were disgusted and voted Peroh. Well, you know what the outcome of that was - we got stuck with a Clinton for 8 years. I will write my senator prior to November, 04. That is the best I can do. I refuse to get stuck with a Kerry character.

That's what the Rove Republicans are banking on.

Game over USA.

57 posted on 01/27/2004 11:29:24 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: LaurieB
Government grew less when we had Clinton. Why? Because the congress got off its butt and did it's job. Under Bush the don't do anything without checking with Rove/Bush first. That isn't they way our system is supposed to work.

58 posted on 01/27/2004 11:30:06 PM PST by DMCA (Illegal Aliens get out of jail free, Illegal song swapping - pay large fines/goto jail...)
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To: Texasforever
I can read the papers and the government crime stats. You, on the other had, just seam like you will go along with Bush on whatever he does. I bet if he came out and said he supported abortion you and your fellow BushBots would agree.

He is president of the United States, not President of Mexico. You should think about what his policies are doing to this country and stop worshiping him like he is some kind of god.
59 posted on 01/27/2004 11:32:26 PM PST by DMCA (Illegal Aliens get out of jail free, Illegal song swapping - pay large fines/goto jail...)
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To: 13foxtrot
That's what the Rove Republicans are banking on.

The Rove Republicans are in for a shock come election day when they find out how many Conservatives have left the party. Unless they've swung alot of the Democrat vote their way, he'll lose.
60 posted on 01/27/2004 11:32:37 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: 13foxtrot
That's what the Rove Republicans are banking on.

No that is what republicans and a very large segment of independents are counting on. The "base" has shown itself to be more opposition party than anything else. Bush owes the "base" nothing.

61 posted on 01/27/2004 11:33:05 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Bush is simply following up on an issue he has advocated ever since he began his political career. These guys all knew that and now wait until an election year to “warn” him. It won’t work.

Bush had simply better look at what the American people want instead of what Bush wants.

We elect leaders to do what is best, in the best interest of America. Bush is wrong for even suggesting this "plan". It's like trying to put out a fire by throwing gasoline bombs on it.

62 posted on 01/27/2004 11:33:54 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: 13foxtrot
What are you suggesting be done? What else can I possibly do? Should I march up to the whitehouse? Just me?
63 posted on 01/27/2004 11:34:20 PM PST by LaurieB (It just goes to show you......)
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To: StoneColdGOP
" At least two states, Arizona and California, are witnessing grass-roots uprisings to counter the flood of illegal immigrants. Both states have organizers gathering signatures for November ballot measures that would ban social services to illegal immigrants."

Looks like you're getting your wish. Good luck with it. Our RAT reps won't even give us the time of day on this issue, and Arkansas is overrun with this plague.

64 posted on 01/27/2004 11:34:31 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: DMCA
You, on the other had, just seam like you will go along with Bush on whatever he does. I

As long as he does the job I hired him to do then yes I will go along with him. He hasn't taken any action so far that was either a surprise to me or not understandable given the state of the country over the past 3 years.

65 posted on 01/27/2004 11:35:45 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
The quickest way for these guys to get Bush's stubborn streak in high gear is to threaten him.

The outrage coming from Arizona is not a threat, it's a promise.

66 posted on 01/27/2004 11:37:59 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: All
All of us in here know that the administration - or people close to them - read these threads. That is good. Now, if you want to double your exposure to the party, go over to the GOP USA web site, register for their forum, and post there as well.

The link is here. Then click on the "Forum" tab.

That site could use some more FReeper input (although the format is a little cheesey). I've only posted a dozen times in the last year there, and mostly on this issue. I've yet to run into another FReeper in there, and that should change. The party chiefs definitely read the threads over there, or a general digest of them at the very least.

67 posted on 01/27/2004 11:38:19 PM PST by 11B3 (So many idiots, so few comets.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Bush is wrong for even suggesting this "plan". It's like trying to put out a fire by throwing gasoline bombs on it.

Find one "issues" poll taken that places this issue anywhere in the top 5 issues voters are thinking about when it comes to electing the next president.

68 posted on 01/27/2004 11:38:41 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
The quickest way for these guys to get Bush's stubborn streak in high gear is to threaten him.

The quickest way to alienate conservative voters is to sell out to the illegal aliens and their enablers.

69 posted on 01/27/2004 11:38:53 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: c-b 1
The outrage coming from Arizona is not a threat, it's a promise.

So be it. Bush will not back down though.

70 posted on 01/27/2004 11:39:43 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: DMCA
Believe it or not - there will never be a president who will do everything as we expect all the time. Every president in history whether I voted for them or not has done SOMETHING to piss me off. You have to vote for someone and and we are not making that person God just because we did so.
71 posted on 01/27/2004 11:39:52 PM PST by LaurieB (It just goes to show you......)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Good points.You should also add the relentless propaganda campigns of the Left screaming racism and hard heartedness in every outlet they have. You and I shall disagree about the President's proposal, and that's okay, we can :-) One thing we are in agreement on is tha t, yes it is a problem,I think W is forcing a lot of hands with this and the outcome is still not yet seen. Tell you what,I'll bet you a Lime Diet coke that he will rope some dopes with this thing.He seems to do tha ta lot .Whaddya say? We got a bet?
:- )
72 posted on 01/27/2004 11:40:09 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: 13foxtrot
Are you on the west side of the state? It sounds like you are in Washington.
73 posted on 01/27/2004 11:40:23 PM PST by calawah98
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To: Roscoe
The quickest way to alienate conservative voters is to sell out to the illegal aliens and their enablers.

I thought it was signing CFR.

74 posted on 01/27/2004 11:40:57 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: gatorbait
LOL Not a chance, gator! :0) So many dopes...
75 posted on 01/27/2004 11:42:00 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: Texasforever
Bush owes the "base" nothing.

The Rove Republicans are practicing Clinton-esque unprincipled leadership, it didn't work for the Democrats and it will not work for the Republicans.

By unprincipled leadership I mean to describe how they so easily act "conservative" on one issue and then "liberal" on the next.

This behaviour is driven by pure political expediency.

76 posted on 01/27/2004 11:42:07 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Apparently Bush wasn't watching TV when Gray Davis suggested giving illegal aliens drivers licenses

You don't expect them to take the bus to the welfare office, do ya?

77 posted on 01/27/2004 11:42:25 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: saveliberty
Right on! I'm sure they're surprised by the backlash to this in places outside of the Southwest.
78 posted on 01/27/2004 11:42:50 PM PST by Penner
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To: kattracks
"Polly Baca, head of the Latin American Research and Service Agency in Denver, said the letter sounded like a "vendetta" against undocumented workers."

No you ignorant b***h, we are tired of our country being overrun by these people who ignore the rules and create an enormous tax burden on citizens (you know, those people who actually have a right to be here) and who are driving the wages down for everybody, not to mention putting legitimate immigrants at a severe disadvantage and penalizing them for following the rules when they too only want to better things for themselves and their families. I am so sick of you people carrying on as if America owes these invaders a living along with some special status. We owe them nothing but a one way trip back to Mexico, or in some instances, wherever else they might have cone from via Mexico (in many cases).

79 posted on 01/27/2004 11:42:50 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: calawah98
Are you on the west side of the state? It sounds like you are in Washington.

King County...sigh.

80 posted on 01/27/2004 11:43:15 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: Texasforever
I thought it was signing CFR.

Is he pretending that the Supreme Court will overturn his amnesty "guest worker" plan?

81 posted on 01/27/2004 11:44:23 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: LaurieB
Selling out the US to Mexico & selling sacrificing the Christians in China on the alter of trade are things that I am not sure I can forgive Bush for.

Not to mention his almost complete lack of progress on the antiabortion front. Speeches and little changes to the law do not save the thousands of kids that are being murdered.
82 posted on 01/27/2004 11:44:27 PM PST by DMCA (Illegal Aliens get out of jail free, Illegal song swapping - pay large fines/goto jail...)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
So many dopes

Not enough rope? LOL

83 posted on 01/27/2004 11:45:06 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: 13foxtrot
My condolances.
84 posted on 01/27/2004 11:45:11 PM PST by 11B3 (So many idiots, so few comets.)
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To: Texasforever
Find one "issues" poll taken that places this issue anywhere in the top 5 issues voters are thinking about when it comes to electing the next president.

What was I thinking Tex! Your right, this epic, coast to coast invasion of millions is no biggy with the American people. It's a non issue!

Were really more concerned with Michael Jackson!

85 posted on 01/27/2004 11:45:21 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Texasforever
If I hire someone, and they don't do the job they were hired for they get fired. Why should the President be any different?
86 posted on 01/27/2004 11:45:21 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: 13foxtrot
We are screwed
87 posted on 01/27/2004 11:45:49 PM PST by calawah98
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To: gatorbait
Not enough rope? LOL

NEVER enough rope! :0)
88 posted on 01/27/2004 11:45:53 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: kattracks
"White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said yesterday that she hadn't yet seen the letter, but stressed the importance of the president's proposal in controlling illegal immigration.

"The president's temporary-worker program is a well thought-out aimed at improving border security, meeting our economic needs and being compassionate to those trying to improve their situation for themselves and their families,"

There was not one word mentioned about securing the borders, and we do not call registering lawbreakers, and changing the laws to make them legal, a legitimate way to control illegal immigration.

This, "well thought out plan" had nothing to do with border security, had no means to track these individuals, and the billions spent on the useless agencies that would be created to not fulfill their function would be better spent on enforcement.

Our first duty to compassion should be to ourselves, our culture, our national identity, our sovereignty. It will not be set aside for some self serving politicians false call to duty to improve the situtation of those that would destroy the nation by their mere presence at the ballot box and the sheer numbers of their illegal invasion.

89 posted on 01/27/2004 11:46:42 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: 13foxtrot
This behaviour is driven by pure political expediency.

OK you tell me. A moderate republican, Bush, eeked out a 523 vote win in Florida over the most socialist democrat of our time. This country is split right down the middle politically and every top issue the voters say is important is big government spending and involvement. What red meat conservative is there that is going to win in that environment?

90 posted on 01/27/2004 11:47:54 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: DMCA
I can read the papers and the government crime stats.

But what about all of the benefits from importing more crime and poverty?

Just think of the upcoming construction boom in subsidized housing!

91 posted on 01/27/2004 11:48:03 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: DMCA
Selling out the US to Mexico & selling sacrificing the Christians in China on the alter of trade are things that I am not sure I can forgive Bush for.


What are our alternatives right now?
92 posted on 01/27/2004 11:48:06 PM PST by LaurieB (It just goes to show you......)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
What was I thinking Tex! Your right, this epic, coast to coast invasion of millions is no biggy with the American people. It's a non issue!

I am glad to see you facing reality.

93 posted on 01/27/2004 11:49:17 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Not enough rope? LOL NEVER enough rope! :0)

Ah well, we could string some boot laces together....... Anyway,looks like the legislators are getting off their hams and facing the problem.. So we'll see.. :-)

94 posted on 01/27/2004 11:49:21 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: LaurieB
Keeping control of the House and Senate and showing the GOP that they should do what is right and not what is political expedient.

I am off to bed. I will respond to any responses in 12 hours.
95 posted on 01/27/2004 11:49:39 PM PST by DMCA (Illegal Aliens get out of jail free, Illegal song swapping - pay large fines/goto jail...)
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To: LaurieB
Ever hear of grid lock?

At least then you have a check and balance system, democrats won't give in to the Republicans, Republicans won't give in to the democrats.
96 posted on 01/27/2004 11:50:52 PM PST by calawah98
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To: gatorbait
If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'll spot ya that Lime Coke anyhow. :0)
97 posted on 01/27/2004 11:52:50 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: DMCA
I completely agree - but voting for the other guy is not going to resolve anything. Staying away from the polls is no answer either. Right now, my only recourse is to write to my elected officials and kill them with emails and letters.
98 posted on 01/27/2004 11:54:21 PM PST by LaurieB (It just goes to show you......)
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To: Texasforever
I am glad to see you facing reality.

Not for long. :- )

99 posted on 01/27/2004 11:54:29 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
You have a deal, just bring swim fins to get here LOL
100 posted on 01/27/2004 11:55:09 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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