Vetting the Vet Record (More exposure of Kerry's lies)

National Review Online ^ | 1/27/04 | Mackubin Thomas Owens

[Ben Hecks]

" I received it in an email from a retired military guy who told me it's being circulated around active and retired military!!"

I sent this to another retired Army guy yesterday who forwarded it to his "mailing list". I'm guessing that several others did the same thing - amazing how fast news can travel.

[Ben Hecks]

OOPS! That was supposed to be addressed to Elkiejg.....sorry MEG.

[river rat]

Shhhhhh!..

It's too early to expose Kerry's sordid past life lies and misbehavior....
Let him continue to portray himself as the warrior's brother and protector.
Let him contiune to hide his post-Vietnam behavior and his Senate voting record....

Let him become the candidate -- and THEN kick his ass and expose him for the freaking phoney and dupe or liar that he became...

Semper Fi

[Gritty]

If (Kerry) believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service. Who can be proud of committing war crimes of the sort that Kerry recounted in his 1971 testimony?

Kerry is a slithering opportunist, trying to have it both ways.

He shouldn't be allowed to have it either way!

[Hon]

"In fact, the entire Winter Soldiers Investigation was a lie. It was inspired by Mark Lane's 1970 book entitled Conversations with Americans, which claimed to recount atrocity stories by Vietnam veterans."

This would be the same ultra leftwing KGB stooge, Mark Lane, who brought us the Kennedy assassination conspracy.

"For instance, documents smuggled out of Russia by Vasilii Mitrokhin, a former KGB archivist, suggest that the KGB secretly subsidized the work of Mark Lane"

http://www.paulmitchinson.com/jfk.html

[cajungirl]

The problem with this issue is that you had to be there, you have to have lived thru it to understand how contemptible he is. The voters now who have no memory just have a vague feeling, "viet nam was awful, Viet Nam vets are scared, suffering,,that war was terrible". They have no clue as to how the anti war moviement was financed, driven by anti Americans and how it ripped this country apart and how we have paid for it and suffered from it for thirty years. The divisions now are were generated by that movement thirty years ago, more likely fifty years ago. They just will never understand. Kerry was a tool of that movement. He probably doesn't know it.

[MEG33]

We are armed for when the time comes...;}

[MEG33]

The Vietnamese and Cambodians sure paid for it.

[RaceBannon]

major need to bump

[BluH2o]

Another acquaintance who talked to Kerry about his political ambitions called him a 'very charismatic fellow looking for a good issue.'

The same was said of Jane Fonda early on in the Vietnam experience. She and Kerry both had an agenda of sorts and both were trying to exploit it in some fashion. Jane Fonda was described as an empty vessel searching for a cargo to transport ... she was successful to some extent.

[cajungirl]

Yes and the world turned a blind eye to the million Cambodians killed. They still turn a blind eye. Shameful.

[river rat]

I just hope that the stupid party (the Republicans), has the brass orbs to hang the lying "veterans" and Jane Fonda albatross around his neck...

John F'ing Kerry must be smart enough to KNOW, that we KNOW and we know that he knows we know -- so he must not be sleeping well...

Lies and betrayal have a habit of catching up with one -- eventually....

Semper Fi

[Little Bill]

Race thanks for the ping. we have been talking about this, on the Mass Locale, my latest post.

I saw this on the Viet Nam Veterans against Kerry.

I don't know what the rules of engagement, in the Delta, in a free fire zone were, but you couldn't shoot just anyone, you had to receive fire or observe the enemy under arms, then you could do pretty much as you pleased as long as you faced an armed foe.

As a note to this; No matter what what you saw on "Combat" or read in your history books or WW2 movies, if you are a civilian in a war zone and you are stupid enough to be caught in a battle, you are likely to get dead, as we used to say. Targets of opportunity is cowboy talk and an excuse for poor discipline, kinda like a deer hunter making sound shots, they either got guns or they don't.

While in command of Swift Boat 44, Kerry and crew operated without prudence in a Free Fire Zone, carelessly firing at targets of opportunity racking up a number of enemy kills and some civilians.

His body count included a woman, her baby, a 12 year-old boy, an elderly man and several South Vietnamese soldiers.

"It is one of those terrible things, and I'll never forget, ever, the sight of that child," Kerry later said about the dead baby. "But there was nothing that anybody could have done about it.

It was the only instance of that happening.

Kerry said he was appalled that the Navy's ''free fire zone'' policy in Vietnam put civilians at such high risk.

[MEG33]

I despise what he did.

[VOA]

bump

[185JHP]

The WH isn't the place for a fool (one possibility) or a dishonest scammer - he didn't get his character flaws from "Irish Roots" that he doesn't have, but that he claimed when he thought it would benefit him...

[eternity]

Your right he doesn't have Irish roots. Saw his orange tie he was wearing last nite and wondered why a guy who acts Irish would do that after winning the primary. If he does it on St Patrick's Day we know where this NWO guy sentiments are.

[TigersEye]

Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Bump and a bookmark. Plan on me sending this one to all my Vet friends!

[razorback-bert]

Kerry was in Nam?

He sure ought to mention that!