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Vetting the Vet Record (More exposure of Kerry's lies)
National Review Online ^ | 1/27/04 | Mackubin Thomas Owens

Posted on 01/28/2004 3:12:15 PM PST by Elkiejg

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To: OldEagle
FYI..while I'm searching.
41 posted on 01/29/2004 3:25:31 AM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"You forgot to mention that Nixon, Kerry and Fonda all worked hand in hand."
You are right. Nixon got elected because he had a "secret plan" to get our troops out of Vietnam. The plan apparently included cotting our losses and giving upm oue POW/MIA's
42 posted on 01/29/2004 3:43:01 AM PST by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Your post #5 is right on target!
Thank you for pointing this out.
43 posted on 01/29/2004 7:40:17 AM PST by Jaguar Girl (America needs to keep our gov.'s promises to our Veterans.Thank a Vet & our Troops!)
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To: Nix 2; dighton; hchutch
When young Kerry returned to the States, he began protesting against the Vietnam War. On April 23, 1971, Kerry testified before Congress about atrocities he had allegedly seen and heard about.

My post on The Many Faces of John Kerry is germane.

Under military law, what was the duty of an officer -- Kerry, for example -- if he possessed such information?

It is the affirmative duty, under both the UCMJ and under the basic strictures of human decency, of any service member--commissioned, warrant, or noncommissioned officer AND non-rate enlisted person alike--to report any such action to higher authority if he witnesses any such action, or has reasonable cause to believe that such an action was committed.

If Kerry had real reason to believe this, then he is guilty of several serious felonies under the UCMJ, and can conceivably be recalled to active duty to stand court-martial.

"Following his investigation of the My Lai massacre for the Army, Lieutenant General William R. Peers and his investigative team made highly unusual and largely unprecedented recommendations. The Peers Commission proposed that charges also be preferred against a number of American staff officers, including the division chief of staff, the brigade operations officer, the task force operations and intelligence officers, and the division chaplain...

"One of the conclusions Peers drew following his My Lai investigation was that there was widespread failure to report suspected war crimes and civilian casualties, despite numerous directives and standing operating procedures (SOPs) requiring such reports. Even more damning was the conclusion that individuals within the task force headquarters took affirmative steps to conceal the massacre, including falsifying logs by changing the locations where civilians were reportedly killed. A staff officer involved in concealing a war crime may be prosecuted as an accessory after the fact in violation of Article 78, for misprison of a serious offense in violation of Article 134, or for dereliction of duty in violation of Article 92."

From "Staff Officer Responsibility for War Crimes,", LTC Michael J. Davidson, USA, published in the Mar/April 2001 issue of Military Review, the professional journal of the US Army Command & General Staff College. The full article is available at this link to the Military Review Website.

Do we really want to elect a President who could be readily indicted and convicted of war crimes by the very same International Criminal Court he would order the State Department to operate under?

44 posted on 01/29/2004 9:04:12 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
Thank you, Poohbah. We really need to get all of these threads tied together. If Kerry is the dem's nominee, there will be enough info in this one spot to hang him from the nearest yardarm.
Remember FR in 2000. We were strong then, we can do it again!!!
I have enough stuff on Kerry to do my own novel, and today, Rush had probably the best, (last,) half hour of radio I have ever heard about ALL the kowtowing Pubbies do to make stupid libs like them when it's never gonna happen.
He was talking specifically about the memos on Bush's Judicial nominees. His words were extrordinarily strong and I tried to get in here from my truck to log on before he went off the air to give him a BRAVO!!!, but I'm too late.
At any rate, he said we have the goods on them and by G-d, we should use it.
I could not agree more.
Kerry is a monster. Period. It's about time to get ready to take him on with silver bullets and a Court Martial would be about as pure a bullet as I know. Early enough to start banging on the DoD door!!!
45 posted on 01/29/2004 12:39:40 PM PST by Nix 2 ( QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: RaceBannon
Thanx for the ping! While I did not serve in Vietnam , my cousin did. In the same unit and at the exact same time as Oliver Stone. My cuz won the Bronze Star and was not in any way a crazed killer. He came home, married, raised two adorable daughters, one a nurse. the other a teacher, and just retired from a job he held for 33 years. Through people like him I have come to understand the vet's reticence about speaking of their experiences, but had I served as they did, with the honor and valor they demonstrated, I would be vocal in my outrage at the way their service has been portrayed for political gain. I would follow Kerry with all the determination with which the Furies tortured Agammemnon. Slanders such as his should not go unpunished.
46 posted on 01/30/2004 6:17:51 AM PST by xkaydet65
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47 posted on 01/30/2004 10:15:20 PM PST by jmstein7
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To: Elkiejg
Bump! I believe there is film of John F-ing Kerry delivering his testimonial smear against the military in Vietnam. This film MUST be shown!!!
48 posted on 02/02/2004 6:55:37 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: jmstein7
So does anybody out there know if their is a FILM of John F-ing Kerry giving false testimony as to supposed war atrocities by U.S. troops in Vietnam? Remember, this phony testimony marked the first time Ketchup Boy came into public view.
49 posted on 02/03/2004 3:30:24 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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"In 1997, Kerry felt there that were no threats to the United States. This prompted him to place this statement in the Congressional Record: ''Now that the [Cold War] struggle is over, why is it that our vast intelligence apparatus continues to grow even as Government resources for new and essential priorities fall far short of what is necessary?'' (Congressional Record, 5/1/97, p. S3891)"

I have been reading online, and wanted to honestly offer you at least ONE spot on this post where you may be taking things out of context. If you follow the link below, and search 1997 Records for pages S3891 AND S3892, you will see that Kerry's message was not at all what you have implied.

As you see, he is actually talking about streamlining and coordinating existing intelligence groups so that they can work more in synch.

"Every bureaucrascy seeks to increase the superiority of the professionally informed by keeping their knowledge and interventions secret. Bureaucratic administration always tends to be an administration of 'secret sessions' in so far as it can, it hides its knowledge and action from criticism."

His speech has examples, much like 9/11, where lack of coordination due to excessive bureaucracy lost the US its edge.

He was not, as seems to be implied, attempting to hack off an arm of intelligence for no good reason. This one sentence is presented far from its context.

Please follow the link and see for yourself.

50 posted on 06/04/2004 4:14:37 PM PDT by RNinNC (Politely Rebutting)
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To: Elkiejg

BTTT for an old thread

51 posted on 08/22/2004 12:23:29 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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52 posted on 08/22/2004 12:24:59 AM PDT by nopardons
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