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AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION
Spirit Daily ^ | 1-29-04

Posted on 01/29/2004 6:30:44 AM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: cpforlife.org
Dear cpforlife.org,

"Can John Kerry return to faithful Catholicism?"

Sure, it's possible.

Will he?

I'm not holding my breath.


sitetest
61 posted on 01/29/2004 7:38:02 AM PST by sitetest (But we should try to remember to pray for him and Chappaquiddick Ted, anyway.)
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To: cookcounty
You have to be pretty "weird and twisted" to be a Dem politician.
62 posted on 01/29/2004 7:40:28 AM PST by goodnesswins (For those Voting Dem/Constitution Party/Libertarian - I guess it's easier than using your brain.)
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To: AppyPappy
Dear AppyPappy,

Obtaining a declaration for one's marriage in the Catholic Church does not make one's children from that marriage illegitimate.

A declaration of nullity merely states that the marriage, though possibly legal in the eyes of the state (and thus legitimating children that issued forth), is not of a sacramental quality. It does not sufficiently reflect the marriage of Christ and His Bride, the Church.


sitetest
63 posted on 01/29/2004 7:41:19 AM PST by sitetest
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To: cpforlife.org
My guess is that Kerry would respond by creating the Church of England America.

And maybe taking a few more wives and lopping off their heads...

64 posted on 01/29/2004 7:44:14 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firethebcs.com, www.weneedaplayoff.com, www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: Barnacle; CAtholic Family Association; Askel5; All
A thought from a recent past president of the
Federation of Americans waiting to be born:

"Abortion? I am all for it…
for “certain undesirable organizations”

"Abort N.O.W., NARAL, and Planned Parenthood!
Abort Roe v Wade and all “laws” that allow the
MURDER of my unborn friends!"

"Life is Sacred from the moment of conception!"

Click here to read a press release from the current president of the
Federation of Americans waiting to be born.

65 posted on 01/29/2004 7:44:17 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The defense and promotion of LIFE is not the ministry of a few but the responsibility of ALL.)
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To: cpforlife.org; dansangel
he presents himself both as a staunchly pro-choice politician and as a practicing Catholic

Ok, John it's time to pick, one you can only have one..

I am a believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic

Sorry, his beliefs are not consistent with the church, he needs more practice. Maybe he can get some pointers from his buddy Ted.

I think it should read "I am a non believing but still practicing Catholic, as long as I can get away with it"

66 posted on 01/29/2004 7:45:44 AM PST by .45MAN ("I am what I am because of what I am")
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To: cpforlife.org
Could Kerry become the first President to be denied Communion?

Nope!! This ain't going to happen...

67 posted on 01/29/2004 7:47:01 AM PST by .45MAN ("I am what I am because of what I am")
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To: cynicom
If you do not wish to "push your views" on others, then don't vote and don't run for public office and don't work for the government.

It's that simple.

68 posted on 01/29/2004 7:47:41 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Diddle E. Squat
IMO--That was done by the 7 demon-justices of "Roe"

Their worship service is child dismemberment in abortion holocaust chambers.
69 posted on 01/29/2004 7:49:32 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The defense and promotion of LIFE is not the ministry of a few but the responsibility of ALL.)
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To: JohnnyZ
I'm no expert on cannon law. But, it is my understanding that Bishops are given a great deal of autonomy over their diocese in this and many other such matters.

This explains why you may see a diocese with multiple sex abuse charges where the dioceses surrounding it may be virtually scandal free.

I am blessed to live in a great diocese and pray to hear a pronouncement to this effect from my bishop soon.

70 posted on 01/29/2004 7:50:47 AM PST by Barnacle ("It is as it was." JPII)
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To: .45MAN
We need to work extra-hard to make sure that does NOT happen!!

The numbers below speak for themselves.

As a Catholic I am disgusted to have to say that statistically, had more Catholics voted in the 2000 presidential election, the pro-abortion candidate - Algore would have won. Worse still a majority of "Catholics" voted for Klintoon both times.

- 2000 Presidential Election -

Source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/epolls/US/P000.html (Note: The above chart was constructed using data from the listed source.) Half of the people who voted are aged 18-44, and eighty percent claim to be Christian.

All in the 18-44 group were in school since Roe v. Wade, and could have received a Pro-Life education .

71 posted on 01/29/2004 7:55:59 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The defense and promotion of LIFE is not the ministry of a few but the responsibility of ALL.)
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To: cpforlife.org
Hopefully, we will already have hand delivered this petition to the Pope long before the elections this fall. We are currently collating several reams of documentation that we sent to 36 bishops and their (lack of) action against these politicians in their flocks causing grave public scandal, and making print and CD copies of the documentation for media distribution.

(That reminds me, I need to make sure my passport is up to date.)

72 posted on 01/29/2004 7:56:10 AM PST by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: sitetest; AppyPappy
Obtaining a declaration = Obtaining a declaration of nullity

Sorry for the omission.
73 posted on 01/29/2004 7:58:01 AM PST by sitetest
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To: .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; ...
BUMP-PING
74 posted on 01/29/2004 7:59:34 AM PST by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Barnacle
I'm no expert on cannon law. But, it is my understanding that Bishops are given a great deal of autonomy over their diocese in this and many other such matters. 70 posted on 01/29/2004 7:50:47 AM PST by Barnacle ("It is as it was." JPII)

That's basically correct. There is the Vatican document on Catholics in political life which outlines the moral principles which must guide Catholics on issues of human life. Technically,as I understand it, the issue regarding Communion is one of "discipline" and at the discretion of bishops to determine. What seems to be going on is "collegiality" - individual bishops consulting with one another on how they understand the issue. It's clear that someone who is involved in propaganda and political campaigns to promote abortion is no longer a Catholic in good standing. And he or she should not be receiving Holy Communion while engaged in the public scandal of promoting grave evil - the murder of the unborn. Now, finally, some bishops appear ready to enforce this. Or, at least, make it known that that is the policy in effect in their diocese. We shall have to wait and see whether priests and bishops actually take the next step and deny such pro-abortion Catholics (that sounds horrible doesn't it?)Communion at actual Masses.

One positive effect of this will be that it will make clear which bishops are truly and courageously Catholic. That will be good for the Church and good for the world.

75 posted on 01/29/2004 8:09:02 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Republican Red; cpforlife.org; camas; petitfour
Who did Jackie O divorce?

Jackie's problem is that Onassis' first wife was still alive when they married. It was his divorce, not hers, but still the marriage was adulterous. IIRC.

76 posted on 01/29/2004 8:11:05 AM PST by pbear8 (no complaining...Thanks be to God)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
So your going to Rome then? great! FWIW I've had Petition to Interdict or Excommunicate Culture of Death "Catholics" and CAtholic Family Association as links for 4+ years. I'll be happy to make a special announcement/link on my home pages when you have your presentation ready.
77 posted on 01/29/2004 8:12:27 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The defense and promotion of LIFE is not the ministry of a few but the responsibility of ALL.)
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To: sitetest
I don't want to hear the Catholics condemn divorce ever again.
78 posted on 01/29/2004 8:12:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: cpforlife.org; cynicom
cynicom, please see:

http://cpforlife.org/culture_of_life.htm#andrew
79 posted on 01/29/2004 8:13:25 AM PST by Barnacle ("It is as it was." JPII)
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To: Barnacle
The other positive effect will be that it will become manifestly clear to John Kerry (and everyone else) that you cannot pretend to be a Catholic while supporting the abortion holocaust.
80 posted on 01/29/2004 8:14:01 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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