AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION

Spirit Daily ^ | 1-29-04

[maryz]

Are you saying he is a parasite? LOL!

No, no, no. What he is is a gigolo!

[hattend]

Dang, I will never live in Massachusetts. How did Kerry get elected?

[Campion]

I've studied the history of indulgences for years. And yes, I know that the Catholic sites disclaim the existence on indulgences. I happen to believe that indulgences are as rampant today as they were the day that Martin Luther nailed his theses on the door.

You clearly don't even know what an indulgence is.

How else could all these priests walk away scott free after molesting boys for so many years.

I give up. You tell us what this has to do with indulgences, particularly since the priests in question aren't dead, for the most part.

Hint: an indulgence is not a permit to commit a sin, any more than "time off for good behavior" in a federal prison is a license to go out and commit a crime.

[Right Wing Professor]

t was Abp. Fulton Sheen who said that Catholic parents who wanted their children to lose their faith should send them to a Catholic school. (He was speaking specifically about colleges, but the rot has spread since then.)

I suspect this has little relevance to the teaching of religion in Catholic schools in Ireland in the 1960s.

[Campion]

I suspect this has little relevance to the teaching of religion in Catholic schools in Ireland in the 1960s.

He was speaking in the 1960's. As I pointed out, he was specifically referring to Catholic colleges in the US, however.

The fact remains that you were misinformed.

[maryz]

I'm pretty sure that I learned that the refusal of one partner to consummate the marriage was grounds for an annulment -- likely at some times and places the most common one.

[mystery-ak]

Why isn't he denied communion now?

[Campion]

I'm pretty sure that I learned that the refusal of one partner to consummate the marriage was grounds for an annulment

An unconsummated marriage can be dissolved by the Church, even if it is not found to be null.

However, the unilateral refusal of one spouse to consummate the marriage would certainly be grounds for a finding of nullity even if that were not the case.

[Gerfang]

I have a question.

That Pope John Paul II, Supreme Pontiff of the Catholic Church take jurisdiction of this petition. Part 1 That Canon 1398 be changed to read: "A person who willfully enables an abortion or euthanization incurs a latae sententiae excommunication.[...]"

If a member of the Catholic Church rejects abortion but supports a law that “willfully enables” others to have one it is considered apostate. If he rejects false creeds (Islam for example) but supports a law that “willfully enables” others to practice said faith (the 1st Amendment) he is not considered apostate.

Why the double standard?

Isn’t it also a sin to “willfully enable” another to place other gods before the Lord? Why does the church turn a blind eye to this?

[in the Arena]

Nice set of links...as expected, the Catholic liberals are are CINO (Catholic In Name Only)...why even 'practice' the faith if you're not willing to follow the doctrine ?

[Right Wing Professor]

The fact remains that you were misinformed.

Nothing of the sort. I was referring to the practice of granting annulments, not the canon law. The Church in United States processes 60,000 annulments a year; that's 75% of all annulments worldwide, and up from 400 a year in 1968. Are you trying to tell me the way canon law is being applied is the same, from country to country, and from 1968 to the present?

If you think a man could have gotten a Church annulment in Ireland in the 1960's, after thirty years and lots of children, by claiming he'd entered the marriage intending to cheat, then let me politely inform you you don't know what you're talking about.

[AppyPappy]

Now why would she object to that?

So does that mean that Kerry is divorced in the eyes of the Church?

[cpforlife.org]

"Why isn't he denied communion now?"

There is no good reason why.

Sadly, our Bishops have been negligent in following the Holy Father's many clear and repeated calls that this entire matter be settled once and for all.

The article, as well as others do give reason to have some new hope; as a few bishops have started to act on this.

[saradippity]

I went to Mass,many years as a half repentent sinner until a hunger for Communion with the Body and Blood caused me to repent,confess and come back to Christ,fully and entirely.

There were some other,acts of God and man, that were also involved but that was the principal one.

I think attending Mass and not receiving Communion forced me to consider my sins weekly. Sometimes "out of sight out of mind",can cause the loss of a soul.

Just my own personal experience and view.

[T Minus Four]

...if Jenny wants to dabble in politics she should STAY OUT OF THE CHURCH!

No, she should attend church - maybe some of it will sink in. But she should stay out of the line for communion.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Many others, including Jackie Kennedy Onasis were excommunicated for divorce.

People are not excommunicated for divorce. They excommunicate themselves when they remarry without obtaining an annulment first.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Again, how can a marriage that spawned two children be annulled?

There is a misunderstanding of what Catholic annulment is. The Church recognizes that a legal marriage took place. They require a legal divorce before the annulment process is considered. Children are therefore not illegitimate. Catholic annulments rule on the sacramental nature of the marriage. Two different things.

Note: you can get a legal annulment if the divorce occurs within the first year. Again, that's a different matter from the Church.

[Mr. Silverback]

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[Mr. Silverback]

AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION

Why would I be concerned about that? Sounds like a great idea to me!

:-)

[Aquinasfan]

But only a week ago, newly-installed Boston Archbishop Sean O'Malley struck out against pro-choicers like Kerry, telling a Catholic website called LifeSiteNews.com, "These politicians should know that if they're not voting correctly on these life issues that they shouldn't dare come to Communion."

Come on Bishop, let's formalize this. Inaction scandalizes the Church.