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Rock discovery causes excitement
BBC ^ | Monday, 2 February, 2004, 12:01 GMT | Editorial Staff

Posted on 02/03/2004 5:57:13 AM PST by vannrox

Rock discovery causes excitement



The stone weighs 30 tonnes and is about 17 feet high An ancient rock covered in carved symbols has been discovered in a South American jungle by an archaeologist from Cornwall.

Julien Chenoweth, from St Mawes, said a date test showed the carvings were as old as ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs.

The rock was discovered by Mr Chenoweth after he led an expedition through the Darian area of the Panama jungle, with a party which also included medic Jo Lloyd-King, from Camborne.

A previous archaeologist had been told about the sacred stone by a native Indian, but until now attempts to locate it had failed.



Julian Chenoweth led an expedition through the Panama jungle

The rock has been dated to 3,000 BC. It weighs 30 tonnes and is about 17 feet (5.18 metres) high.

Mr Chenoweth, who works with the Scientific Exploration Society, said he would now write a report on the carvings for the government and he then expected it to attract international attention.



"There is nothing else like it in the area," he said.

"It raises all sorts of questions on what people were doing there, but until more research is done in this area and whether there is a possibility of more rocks like this being found, it is impossible to say what it means."

Mr Chenoweth said it was hard for him, as a Cornishman, to try and say what the Central American culture was saying, but he added: "I believe the rock is a ceremonial place or a boundary marker for a tribe's territory


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KEYWORDS: ancient; archaeology; discovery; economic; epigraphyandlanguage; found; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; jungle; old; panama; past; rock; surprise; turass; unusual
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1 posted on 02/03/2004 5:57:15 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
You have an affinity for rocks, vannrox?
2 posted on 02/03/2004 5:59:17 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Oh-no, I don't leave no stone un-turned.)
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To: vannrox
The inscriptions have already been partially decrypted: "Here I sit, broken hearted ...."
3 posted on 02/03/2004 6:02:15 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: vannrox
""It raises all sorts of questions on what people were doing there"


Looks like they were carving big rocks..
4 posted on 02/03/2004 6:03:20 AM PST by Blzbba
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To: Agnes Heep
No, no....it says: I am a rock....I am an island....
5 posted on 02/03/2004 6:03:51 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: vannrox
An ancient rock covered in carved symbols has been discovered in a South American jungle by an archaeologist from Cornwall.

"'Here may be found the last words of Joseph of Arimathea. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Holy Grail in the Castle of aaaaaagggh'."

6 posted on 02/03/2004 6:07:18 AM PST by Riley
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To: Riley
He must have died while carving it.
7 posted on 02/03/2004 6:08:40 AM PST by Sloth (It doesn't take 60 seats to control the Senate; it only takes 102 testicles.)
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To: Sloth
Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't bother to carve 'aarrggh'. He'd just say it!
8 posted on 02/03/2004 6:09:37 AM PST by Riley
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To: vannrox
I understand it prognosticates: "2003-2004 Patriots by a Field Goal"
9 posted on 02/03/2004 6:11:36 AM PST by theDentist (Boston: So much Liberty, you can buy a Politician already owned by someone else.)
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To: vannrox
It would make a hellofa paper weight...
10 posted on 02/03/2004 6:12:30 AM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: tubebender
I understand the by-line on the rock is "Helen Thomas reporting for UPI."
11 posted on 02/03/2004 6:17:16 AM PST by Callahan
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To: Callahan
Reminds me of the sign that was found in the Confederate submarine "Hunley', when it was raised and opened. It read,

"Re-elect Strom Thurmond".
12 posted on 02/03/2004 6:20:38 AM PST by Riley
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To: Riley
Maybe he was dictating....
13 posted on 02/03/2004 6:23:15 AM PST by Ramius
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To: vannrox
I'm struck by the carving of the enormous Christian symbol on the rock, which is clearly visible in the first picture!!!
14 posted on 02/03/2004 6:25:31 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I'm having an apotheosis of freaking desuetude)
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To: vannrox
The one in Dighton, MA is much better, and easier to get to!!

Check out http://members.skyweb.net/~channy/dighton.html

15 posted on 02/03/2004 6:27:01 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: vannrox
The rock is a lot older than 3000 BC. Perhaps they meant the carvings are that old.
16 posted on 02/03/2004 6:28:34 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ClearCase_guy
:-)

Flag of Cornwall, I think.
http://flagspot.net/flags/gb-corn.html
17 posted on 02/03/2004 6:28:52 AM PST by Riley
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To: ClearCase_guy
I agree it is amazing that a white cross with a blue background would last for 3,000 years.... Christian Indians with quite an artistic ability. I guess the Mormon are right.
18 posted on 02/03/2004 6:31:07 AM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: Dog Gone
The rock has been dated to 3,000 BC.

Young Earth Creationists?

19 posted on 02/03/2004 6:31:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I'm having an apotheosis of freaking desuetude)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Moss grows on a rolling stone?
20 posted on 02/03/2004 6:34:20 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Gore Lost! Deal with it!!!)
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To: Riley
Thank you for the best laugh so far this week.

AHHHHHhhhhhhggggg......

Oh no. It's the legendary Black Beast!

21 posted on 02/03/2004 6:35:06 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: vannrox
Indiana Jones lives! We spend a lot of time and energy trashing the socialist on college campuses, but they have provided so much good and still do, regardless of their brutal socialist political culture.

Reminds me of when I was a student at the University of Michigan School of Natural Resources. There were these turbo nerdy graduate students who did the dirty work for the distinguished professors. Some of these guys even buttoned their top buttons on their shirts, they were such geeks.

Then I saw some video of them in the Central and South American jungles, on a sucessful trip to survey some almost extince mamuals.

In the video, these nerdy grad students were in camo, armed with AK-47s and side arms(protection from the rebels that ruled the area) and buff as a college wrestler.
22 posted on 02/03/2004 6:39:23 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: Agnes Heep
I heard it says something about "Kilr_y _as her_". They haven't made out the other letters.
23 posted on 02/03/2004 6:49:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: vannrox
"I believe the rock is a ceremonial place or a boundary marker for a tribe's territory.

Archaeologists have the most active (nutty) imaginations. They are followed closely by astronomers.

24 posted on 02/03/2004 6:53:40 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I heard it says something about "Kilr_y _as her_". They haven't made out the other letters.

We need to call in the experts at this sort of thing; Pat Sajak and Vanna White.

25 posted on 02/03/2004 6:57:00 AM PST by Riley
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To: vannrox
Wonder how long untill it shows up on E-bay.
26 posted on 02/03/2004 6:58:39 AM PST by Lee Heggy (When truth and logic fail high explosives are applicable.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Archaeologists have the most active (nutty) imaginations. They are followed closely by astronomers.

I get the impression that often when some ancient thing or place is described as having a 'ceremonial' significance, that they really mean to say "we have no idea what it's for".

27 posted on 02/03/2004 7:01:11 AM PST by Riley
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To: Riley
Someone needs to report this infraction of nationalism to that nerd-dork from the Kookinich campaign.
28 posted on 02/03/2004 7:01:34 AM PST by fishtank
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To: vannrox
Long Live Rock
29 posted on 02/03/2004 7:03:51 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: vannrox
The rock has been dated to 3,000 BC.

How?

30 posted on 02/03/2004 7:11:50 AM PST by pabianice
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To: vannrox
What method[s] did they use to determine the age of the writings on the rock?
31 posted on 02/03/2004 7:14:08 AM PST by curmudgeonII
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To: vannrox
there is a possibility of more rocks like this being found, it is impossible to say what it means."

It means there might be more rocks....

32 posted on 02/03/2004 7:18:55 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Riley
I get the impression that often when some ancient thing or place is described as having a 'ceremonial' significance, that they really mean to say "we have no idea what it's for".

You are correct. But more than that, how about when they say "religious significance?" That also seems to explain away the "we have no idea what it's for." When "religious significance" is used, folks appear to be intimidated to disagree (or laugh).

33 posted on 02/03/2004 7:19:55 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: RockChucker
Reminds me of when I was a student at the University of Michigan School of Natural Resources. ...
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Then I saw some video of them in the Central and South American jungles, on a sucessful trip to survey some almost extince mamuals.
 
No comment.....................


34 posted on 02/03/2004 7:37:53 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
They are followed closely by astronomers Evolutionists.
35 posted on 02/03/2004 7:38:55 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: pabianice

How?

Speed dating.......
36 posted on 02/03/2004 7:40:00 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: curmudgeonII
They checked the copywrite date ©3000B.C. at the bottom.
37 posted on 02/03/2004 7:43:11 AM PST by FreedomFarmer (WARNING: Exceeds RDA of Acerbic Acid!)
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To: Elsie
(Let me try again...)
Reminds me of when I was a student at the University of Michigan School of Natural Resources. ...
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Then I saw some video of them in the Central and South American jungles, on a sucessful trip to survey some almost extince mamuals.
 
No comment.....................

38 posted on 02/03/2004 7:43:17 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: Elsie
Don't forget........

sucessful

as well........

39 posted on 02/03/2004 7:44:30 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: vannrox

40 posted on 02/03/2004 7:46:33 AM PST by kt56
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To: vannrox
"It raises all sorts of questions on what people were doing there, but until more research is done in this area and whether there is a possibility of more rocks like this being found, it is impossible to say what it means."

HELP!

41 posted on 02/03/2004 7:46:53 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Callahan
I understand the by-line on the rock is "Helen Thomas reporting for UPI

It could be one of her GALL stones...

42 posted on 02/03/2004 7:59:25 AM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
But more than that, how about when they say "religious significance?"

I had that in mind when I wrote my post, but the lack of coffee in the house won over my properly enumerating the thought.

There was a really funny article somewhere, years ago, about archaelogists with that same catch-all mindset analyzing the remnants of our civilisation. They decided that toilets must have been altars of some kind, and the incantation "Santised for your protection" was evidence of some sort of especially significant rite. Wish I could find a copy of it. I think it was in the New Yorker in the 70s.

43 posted on 02/03/2004 7:59:44 AM PST by Riley
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To: Elsie
Sorry.... I was watching TV and posting at the same time.
44 posted on 02/03/2004 11:24:07 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: RockChucker
Do you have one of those cards in yopur computer that shows tv on the monitor??
45 posted on 02/04/2004 8:51:08 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: Riley
I think the article was from "The Hotel of Mysteries," and it was indeed hilarious.
46 posted on 02/04/2004 9:14:04 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Elsie
"Do you have one of those cards in yopur computer that shows tv on the monitor??"

No.... I was actually watching a nuclear bomb clip from here:
http://www.open-video.org/details.php?videoid=3532&surrogate=fastforward

It's an excellent site for old 1950's school films, such as "Are you popular?" and "Atomic Alert (Elementary version)".
47 posted on 02/04/2004 11:08:50 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: RockChucker
I've only got dialup
48 posted on 02/04/2004 6:13:22 PM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; vannrox
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Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
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49 posted on 07/20/2004 10:46:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: vannrox

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