The science of bigotry: how only dead white males did it all

The Australian ^ | February 04, 2004 | EMMA TOM

[GOPcapitalist]

Is Jesus considered white?

Absolutely NOT. More likely that he was ( is ) dark skin and dark hair. On early ikons from Orthodox Church he is almost black.

It's admittedly a difficult case to make absent of any accurate painting or other artistic record of Jesus by a contemporary. That said however, the simple and known fact of the region where he came from suggests with virtual certainty that he was neither black nor pale white blue eyed/blonde haired. If we assume Jesus shared the genetic traits of Mary, we can know for certain that he was ethnically Jewish and from the north of Israel, a region where the people of the time are known to have shared Jewish and Roman-to-southeast-European genetic traits.

So what is the most likely image? Brown or black hair and moderately pigmented though caucasian skin. Orthodox icons are also somewhat unreliable for the reasons that (a) the oldest ones have with time itself darkened in all of their shades due to about 1,800 years of candle smoke and (b) the art styles and paints at the time, as with most pre-renaissance paintings, paid substantially less attention to realism than the art of more modern periods. For this same reason, you can find all sorts of icons today of medieval saints from northern russia that appear black as well.

[MissEdie]

The whole problem with liberals is they want equality of outcome rather than just equality of opportunity. In order to continue their mistaken convictions they must deconstruct actual data with a host of ad hominem attacks. They are beneath intellectual contempt.


AMEN!! However, they have become quite adept at creating a dependent voter base who offers them job security.

[truth_seeker]

"I'll admit I have never heard of Charles Murray."

Read : "The Bell Curve"

I did, cover to cover. It is pretty convincing.

Pretty convincing that asians are smarter than euro-whites, for instance.

I have managed to come to grips with my genetic inferiority, and plunge ahead with life. Others have been less understanding of the authors' key findings.

Other factoids lie within this big book's covers, too.

[muawiyah]

In the days of Cleopatra (the name itself is "Greek", or at least Church Slavonic) the Greeks ruled Egypt.

You have undoubtedly read about Alexander the Great. Egypt was one of his acquisitions. The place stayed in Greek hands until the Romans took over.

[kittymyrib]

That's no lady...that's a feminist.

[Porterville]

Really??? Confirms the obvious??? What have you created in your life beside blight??

[dwd1]

Two questions... How does the daughter of Ptolemy who was King or Pharoah or Egypt get a Greek Daughter who becomes Pharoah of Egypt also...

Also, how does a less than good actress get nominated for and win a golden globe and an academy award for best actress?

[dwd1]

or Egypt=of Egypt

[muawiyah]

In Jesus time there were Jews in Yemen speaking another South Semitic language (akin to Hebrew). When they were finally taken to Israel in the 1950s it could be seen readily that many of them were blue-eyed blonds.

Being "Jewish" is not a race. It's a religion, a history, etc.

[Porterville]

That is right he was the color of an Arabic or Persian man.. just like Saddat.

[gcruse]

And they called it The Shreik.

[FreedomCalls]

Either blacks, whites and orientals are the same species or they are not. That they can and do interbreed to produce viable offspring indicates they are the same species. Ergo, their mental and phsyical capabilities, within societal and historical circumscribed limits are identical.

Pekinese and Greyhound dogs are of the same species, they can and do interbreed to produce viable offspring. But they are in no way equal physically and mentally.

Take a white "tribe" and transplant them into Subsaharan Africa around 2000 B.C., or a black "tribe" and transplant them into western Europe at the same time, and the geography, climiate and biology of the area would result in the black tribe behaving like whites and the white tribe behaving like subsaharan Africans.

So if I take a pack of Pekinese and let them hang out at the dog track, eventually they will become champion racers? That's absurd.

[gcruse]

I don't know, but Tiger Woods is considered Black.

The new black comedian on Comedy Central is pretty good.  Can't remember his name.
But he says he's married to an Asian and they argue over which half of Tiger makes the good shots.

[Porterville]

Is Jesus considered white?

No, white folk only adopted Middle Eastern religions after Zeus and Odin failed them; white people did the same with gun powder, writing, medicine, and mathematics.

[muawiyah]

You don't really want an answer for the second question, but I'll guess that she engaged in sexual congress with a number of people. That's just a guess you know.

Regarding "pharoah", the Greeks eliminated the previous ruling family when they took over. The set up one of their own as pharoah. Many tens of thousands of Greeks moved into the country. Things happened.

[bk1000]

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[dwd1]

Robin Williams made a similar comment... Athletic ability of a black person... Single minded concentration of an Asian...

I think the guy who sings and does improv with Drew Carey is also married to either an Asian or Hawaiian Lady.... Wayne Brady????

[Porterville]

Pretty convincing that asians are smarter than euro-whites, for instance

Why would you demean yourself??? The reason Asians excel in CERTAIN subjects and not in others doesn't have to do with genetics. For example, the Japanese language and number system is ideal for learning and comprehending abstract mathematical thought in an economic manner, easier and faster to grasp than in English. If his theory held any salt, Eskimos would have an empire the size of China. The guy is a charlatan pedling snake oil to a thirsty demand of egotism and lack self worth.

[muawiyah]

El Saddat's father was an Arab, but his mother was a Nubian. This is in fulfillment of the prophecy that Egypt would not be independent of foreign rule until a native Egyptian ruled the land. Intriguingly Egypt had not been independent of foreign rule since the arrival of the Greeks, or possibly even the Carthaginians when Saddat became President.

Saddat's degree of pigmentation has no bearing whatsoever on Jesus'. In fact, recently reported genetic tests have determined that the Jews are, for the most part, identical to the Kurds (in the same manner that the Irish and the Basque folks are the same). The Kurds are an early Indo-European group.

[dwd1]

And why do the history books say that she was the daughter of a King who took the throne with her brother... Definitely not family values stuff but she would have to have some serious skills to sleep her way to a throne without some royal lineage...

I am aware that Alexander was Greek and that his armies left a genetic impression but I am not sure you would be able to say that Cleopatra was Greek... However, just for the sake of discussion, are you saying that she has been historically portrayed by women that have similar appearance and features... If so, who do you think presents the most accurate representation of her...