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Will Mexicans cheer 'Osama' again?
WND ^ | 2-9-04 | N/A

Posted on 02/09/2004 2:03:52 PM PST by JustPiper

U.S. soccer team to play for Olympic spot in Guadalajara

Things could get ugly in Guadalajara tomorrow when the U.S. soccer team plays Mexico for Olympic qualification.

Last Thursday, when the U.S. played Canada in a qualifying round in Zapopan before 1,500 Mexicans, the crowd hooted "The Star-Spangled Banner," it booed U.S. goals. And it chanted "Osama! Osama! Osama" as the American players left the field with a 2-0 victory.

Tomorrow, 60,000 fans are expected to watch the game that will determine which team goes to Athens.

The Mexicans are hoping for revenge. The U.S. team knocked Mexico out of the World Cup in 2002.

The Guadalajara police are already mobilizing to control highly charged soccer fans and to protect U.S. team players in case things get out of hand.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antiamericanism; badtaste; binladen; immigrantlist; mexicans; mexico; obl; osama; osamabinladen; proterrorist; soccer; unitedstate; us; usefulidiots; worldcup
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To: Stu Cohen
When they start shooting up my neighborhood, spraypainting the side of my house, receiving additional public assistance for their 7th child, and refusing to converse with me in English ... the Scots will be in my personal top 5.

Do any Americans do that? Is America in your personal top 5?

51 posted on 02/09/2004 3:50:33 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (A vote for the Constitution Party is a vote for Paul Krugman and Al Qaeda.)
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To: dangus
Just imagine if tomorrow morning you were to wake up and all these things had magically disappeared: 1. Palestine

2. France

3. Iran

4. Saudi Arabia

5. Cuba

6. China

7. Russia & Satellites

8. Libya

9. Germany

10. Every prisoner in America.

11. Illegal drugs

12. Democrats, Liberals, Socialists, Communists and Aetheists.

13. The UN

14. Abortion 15. N. Korea 16. Vietnam 17. Cambodia 18. The Kennedy Family en masse!

19. Peter Jennings, Tom Brokjaw, and Dan Blather

20. And the two you've all been waiting for....Bill and Hill

21. Hollyweird

Enjoy your new lease on life, the sweetness of the fresh air, the blue sky, the birds singing, and Freedom flowing throughout the land! AAAhhhhhhhh!

52 posted on 02/09/2004 3:55:58 PM PST by Doc Savage
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To: Dane
But don't you know that these soccer fans represent every Mexican

You might be right on this --- I think the soccer fans are more often from the class of Mexicans who would be in big trouble if we stopped massive immigration from Mexico --- the less privileged in Mexico seem to have less time for soccer and seem to like baseball more as a sport. If the Revolution breaks out it would be these people who would scream for our help to stop the peasants from coming after them.

53 posted on 02/09/2004 3:58:16 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Gallegos
That works for me, let's see how fast they can swim. Post signs along the border fence. If you get past the electric parts (no, we won't tell you which parts are active), then you get to swim through the alligators. If you get through them, worry about the indiscriminately scattered antipersonnel mines through our new "no man's land".

Damn, this would be a cool Nintendo game!

54 posted on 02/09/2004 4:01:43 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Do any Americans do that? Is America in your personal top 5?

As a matter of fact ... no, they don't.

I live in Los Angeles. A place where 40% of the drivers are unlicensed and uninsured, not to mention, not here legally (three crimes right there, no?).

I make a phone call to a service agency, it says "Press 1 for English" and if I don't press 1, it continues in Spanish as the default. I've been in line behind people speaking Spanish, with five kids in tow speaking only spanish, using food stamps in excess of my entire monthly grocery bill. I have personally witnessed my property being stolen, and the side of my house being vandalized, by people coordinating these activites completely in Spanish. And worse.

I consider all of the above patently UnAmerican.

And if 90% of the crime in my neighborhood was committed by Scottish People, I just might call for tighter restrictions on Scottish Immigration. But .... they aren't scottish. And you know they aren't.

The emporer has no clothes.

I guess somebody's gotta say it.

55 posted on 02/09/2004 4:05:45 PM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: Stu Cohen
I guess somebody's gotta say it.

Rule number one. If we are ever going to save the country some feelings are going to get hurt.

56 posted on 02/09/2004 4:07:59 PM PST by riri
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To: Stu Cohen
When they start shooting up my neighborhood, spraypainting the side of my house, receiving additional public assistance for their 7th child, and refusing to converse with me in English ... the Scots will be in my personal top 5.

Not to mention having the nerve to whoop and holler against the country that is keeping them well stocked with Pampers and cerveza. These folks actually had full size Mexican flags on the hoods of their Impalas. What they did was tuck both ends under, then slam the hood. That is so not cool.

As long as drunken Scottish soccer fans aren't living here while they talk trash, I don't care. They do it on American soil and there just might be a problem.

57 posted on 02/09/2004 4:09:41 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
And immediately after 9-11, when other folks began attaching American flags to their antennas ... our fine "guest workers" around here did the same. Except that they made absolutely sure to put a much larger (about 4x larger) Mexican flag above the American one.

I never did figure out what the symbolism of that was. I still don't.

59 posted on 02/09/2004 4:16:19 PM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: navyblue
That should be Columbus, NM, 1916 (March 9)--19 Americans killed on American soil by Pancho Villa.

Earlier Villa had murdered 16 Americans he had removed from a train in Mexico; there was also a later raid on Glen Springs, Texas, during which 3 Americans were killed.

60 posted on 02/09/2004 4:18:29 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: JustPiper
The biggest reason why Mexico can't field a quality Olympic team is that any Mexican who can run, jump or swim is already in the United States.
61 posted on 02/09/2004 4:19:04 PM PST by 10mm
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To: 10mm
The biggest reason why Mexico can't field a quality Olympic team is that any Mexican who can run, jump or swim is already in the United States.

If carpooling were an Olympic sport, the Mexicanos would take the gold every time.

62 posted on 02/09/2004 4:25:20 PM PST by Pa' fuera
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To: TheSpottedOwl
...then you get to swim through the alligators.

Reality already got in front of that idea. No alligators, but the illegals coming through along the San Pedro River now have at least one large mountain lion to worry about. His or her tracks were first spotted last week and are bigger than my outstretched hand.

A few months back I found a bed down site in Hunter Canyon that had been hastily abandoned; all bags and backpacks had simply been dropped. Big kitty cat foot prints all over the place.

Those coming through the Huachuca Mountains have attracted the attentions of a few black bears who have taken to scavenging their food trash and discarded backpacks. It won't take long for them to lose all fear and start scavenging people.

63 posted on 02/09/2004 4:31:11 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Stu Cohen
As a matter of fact ... no, they don't.

They might not in your neighborhood, but PLENTY of Americans fit your descriptions. You seem to be under some illusion that Americans don't commit crimes and aren't capable of thoroughly sucking as human beings.

I make a phone call to a service agency, it says "Press 1 for English" and if I don't press 1, it continues in Spanish as the default. I've been in line behind people speaking Spanish, with five kids in tow speaking only spanish, using food stamps in excess of my entire monthly grocery bill.

Do you support a ban on the use of foreign languages in America? It sounds like it.

I have personally witnessed my property being stolen, and the side of my house being vandalized, by people coordinating these activites completely in Spanish. And worse.

I've had property stolen by people who speak Spanish as well as by people who speak English. I even heard of a guy who raped a little kid one time who spoke English, but this had to have been an extreme rarity.

The emporer has no clothes. I guess somebody's gotta say it.

Everything you have said has been said, verbatim, by people of the dominant culture throughout the history of time, including the history of America. I mean, who wanted those dirty, illiterate, AntiChrist-worshipping European Catholics here? Surely you would have supported banning all those cretans from coming to work in America as well, right?

64 posted on 02/09/2004 4:32:56 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (A vote for the Constitution Party is a vote for Paul Krugman and Al Qaeda.)
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To: JustPiper
That is beyond poor taste. I am shocked Mexican fans would use the 9-11 issue like that.

These idiots had numbers of their own die in 9-11 and probably had some soldiers die fighting this war in the Middle East.

Totally ignorant...
65 posted on 02/09/2004 4:39:11 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Stu Cohen
And immediately after 9-11, when other folks began attaching American flags to their antennas ... our fine "guest workers" around here did the same. Except that they made absolutely sure to put a much larger (about 4x larger) Mexican flag above the American one.

I think a part of them was just as horrified at what happened, as everyone else. Unfortunately they had to put their own country first, as usual.

67 posted on 02/09/2004 4:55:27 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: JustPiper
Seems the conversation goes like this:

Mexicans: Osama! Osama!
Bush: Welcome to America!

And I do support Bush. I just wish he realised the war on terror needs to be waged at home as well: against those who break America's immigration laws, take American jobs and subvert American culture. America owes these people nothing, but it's as though no expense is too great to go on earning their ingratitude.

68 posted on 02/09/2004 4:56:25 PM PST by Kepitalizm
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To: dangus
You need to add Greece to your list of America's enemies. Have you forgotten the soccer match beween the Greek team and Scotland just after the 9/11 attacks?

" ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Fans of the Greek soccer club AEK Athens tried to burn the American flag before the team's match against Scotland club Hibernian, and booed during a moment of silence for the victims of the terrorist attacks in the United States. "What went on in Athens disgusted me," Hibernian coach Alex McLeish said Saturday upon returning to Scotland. "With what happened last week, innocent people of all nationalities in America, anyone would show respect."
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/world/2001-09-22-flag.htm
69 posted on 02/09/2004 4:57:06 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Anti-American, Islamofacist, Nazi-sympathizer

(((PING!!!!)))

70 posted on 02/09/2004 4:58:31 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Intelligence failed us, because I was on the Intelligence Committee-John Effing Kerry)
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To: PAR35
A friend of mine was on the phone to someone in Greece on 9/11, and there were huge numbers of people celebrating in the streets there. A very anti-American country.
71 posted on 02/09/2004 4:59:08 PM PST by Kepitalizm
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Australian has had illegals coming in by boat into their Northern Territory. I had heard that the government sent thousands of video tapes into Asia with a warning that if you get by the man-eating sharks off our shores, there was man-eating crocs at the beach. And if you get into the interior, poisonous snakes were a plenty. Then, when your caught, we'll put you in a detention camp out in the middle of the desert.

To bad our politicaians are willing to pull out all the stops to halt the invasion of our country.

72 posted on 02/09/2004 5:00:22 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Missouri
Well done, Australia!
73 posted on 02/09/2004 5:03:56 PM PST by Kepitalizm
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To: Kepitalizm
A very anti-American country.

And, until the recent pre-Olympic crackdown, a country with a relaxed attitude toward terrorists.

75 posted on 02/09/2004 5:09:47 PM PST by PAR35
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Oh crap. Mountain lions and black bears. Someone had better hurry up and post signs! Seriously, that is an ugly way to go.
76 posted on 02/09/2004 5:18:00 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
That should be Columbus, NM, 1916 (March 9)--19 Americans killed on American soil by Pancho Villa.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

Always did have a problem with those damn dates.

77 posted on 02/09/2004 5:25:01 PM PST by navyblue
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To: Texas_Dawg
They might not in your neighborhood, but PLENTY of Americans fit your descriptions. You seem to be under some illusion that Americans don't commit crimes and aren't capable of thoroughly sucking as human beings.

Agreed. But why move to another country to do it? Why not be a sucky human being in one's own country? Why should we expect the citizens of another country to accept us with open arms?

I mean, if I illegally entered Japan, refused to learn a word of Japanese, formed an American gang that vandalized the homes of Japanese citizens, and broke nearly every Japanese law I encountered - I would expect some animosity from the citizens of Japan.

Call me crazy, but there is something about going out of your way to cross national borders to be a sucky human being that makes it that much less palatable.

Do you support a ban on the use of foreign languages in America? It sounds like it.

No, but I am for making English the official language of the United States, and requiring basic English competency as a condition of citizenship or long-term residence.

I've had property stolen by people who speak Spanish as well as by people who speak English. I even heard of a guy who raped a little kid one time who spoke English, but this had to have been an extreme rarity.

Hey, we have our own criminals. That's the point. We don't need the rest of the world's.

Surely you would have supported banning all those cretans from coming to work in America as well, right?

We have immigration laws. Obey them, or be deported. And when you get here, make an effort to learn the language and behave yourself.

It's really just that simple.

It's also common sense.

78 posted on 02/09/2004 5:29:23 PM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: Stu Cohen
I mean, if I illegally entered Japan, refused to learn a word of Japanese, formed an American gang that vandalized the homes of Japanese citizens, and broke nearly every Japanese law I encountered - I would expect some animosity from the citizens of Japan.

Right. The first duty of any government is to the people living there. Do US citizens want current levels of migration? You can check any poll and see for yourself what the overwhelming majority think. A shame no elected politician is willing to do the same.

79 posted on 02/09/2004 5:43:34 PM PST by Kepitalizm
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To: JustPiper
And there is talk to give amnesty to millions of these invertigrates! GRRRR! Dangblastit! I'm mad!!!
80 posted on 02/09/2004 6:01:02 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Seriously, that is an ugly way to go.

Just one of the fringe benefits of our border policy. This one is an equal opportunity danger.

If Yogi or Snagglepuss develop a palate for man-flesh, the most likely first victims will be illegals -- probably women or children. This also makes things a lot more dangerous for legitimate hikers and campers here; the critters are not going to ask about nationality first.

It also adds a significant hazard for us hooligans who stalk aliens.

81 posted on 02/09/2004 6:23:02 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Groganeer
"You guys do know 'our' side lost to the Mexican Army at the Alamo...right?"

Well then, what about "Back to Chapultepec! Yeehaaa!!!" I think Mexico ran out of toilet paper the last time they heard the Marines were coming, and it's getting to be time give 'em something else to think about.
82 posted on 02/09/2004 7:00:58 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70
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To: Kepitalizm; Gallegos
There is a freeper who is from Australia (Byron is his name I think) who posted on another thread weeks ago said that the hard-line policies of Prime Minister Howard has stemmed the flow of illegals in his country. Even the Labor Party of Australia supported Howards actions.

I wish the same policies Australia implemented would be tried here.

83 posted on 02/09/2004 7:12:50 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Groganeer
You guys do know 'our' side lost to the Mexican Army at the Alamo...right?

"But our flag was still there, oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave..."

Remember the Maine and Remember 9.11 aren't about "victories". Neither was "Remember Pearl Harbor".

It's a rallying cry. We won the Battle of San Jacinto.

85 posted on 02/09/2004 7:31:21 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Tell ya what_Dawg, since you have such an unabashed love for border hopping criminals from your own back yard, you know,the ones that are forcing hospitals to cut back on services to LEGAL residents all over the southwest, who are draining resources from schools to law enforcement in almost every state, just to accommodate their president/travel agent named Fox? Well, now they are in my neighborhood. I do not love them, and they sure as hell didn't swim up the Chesapeake Bay to get here. So do me a favor-come and round em' up for me.Take them back where you can give them the life they deserve. Before you reply,please make sure to look up the word ILLEGAL, because that will be my next argument.
86 posted on 02/09/2004 7:34:41 PM PST by zygoat
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To: Patrick1
The U.S National Junior Hockey team was down 3-1 to the Canadian Juniors in Helsinki last Xmas and was being badly outplayed. They came out in the third period and scored 4 straight goals eking out a stunning victory to claim the gold medal.I suspect Mexico is in big trouble, the 1980 Miracle On Ice was no fluke.
87 posted on 02/09/2004 7:50:24 PM PST by albertabound
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To: zygoat
Tell ya what_Dawg, since you have such an unabashed love for border hopping criminals from your own back yard, you know,the ones that are forcing hospitals to cut back on services to LEGAL residents all over the southwest, who are draining resources from schools to law enforcement in almost every state, just to accommodate their president/travel agent named Fox? Well, now they are in my neighborhood. I do not love them, and they sure as hell didn't swim up the Chesapeake Bay to get here. So do me a favor-come and round em' up for me.Take them back where you can give them the life they deserve. Before you reply,please make sure to look up the word ILLEGAL, because that will be my next argument.

No thanks. Let's just get rid of a really dumb law.

88 posted on 02/09/2004 8:04:22 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (A vote for the Constitution Party is a vote for Paul Krugman and Al Qaeda.)
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To: Stu Cohen
You mean... the Japanese wouldn't give you amnesty, their jobs, and print everything in English? What can they be thinking?
89 posted on 02/09/2004 8:26:50 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Texas_Dawg
And what is the "really dumb law" to which you are referring?
90 posted on 02/09/2004 8:29:59 PM PST by zygoat
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To: Texas_Dawg
When Scotland starts paying invasion forces money to subvert US elections, I'll consider it.
91 posted on 02/09/2004 8:31:36 PM PST by dangus
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To: TheSpottedOwl
It was in November when Mexico defeated the US to advance in Olympic Baseball Qualifying, which means Cuba is the sure-fire gold medalist as the Americans aren't even in the event.
92 posted on 02/09/2004 8:32:50 PM PST by Bobby Chang
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To: Doc Savage
Hey, I like Palestine...
It's the Palestinians I'm not so fond of.

(OK, same goes for France. Shh.)
93 posted on 02/09/2004 8:32:56 PM PST by dangus
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To: Texas_Dawg
But if you have a reference...
94 posted on 02/09/2004 8:33:28 PM PST by dangus
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To: Texas_Dawg
Surely it doesn't concern securing a country's southern border...a pratice that Mexico ENFORCES with such zeal? Nahhh....couldn't be that. Wonder what it is?
95 posted on 02/09/2004 8:36:16 PM PST by zygoat
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To: JustPiper
They'll make good Democrats.
96 posted on 02/09/2004 8:57:20 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (I wonder if Free Republic will be deemed a terrorist organization under Hillary?)
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To: Stu Cohen
Call me crazy, but there is something about going out of your way to cross national borders to be a sucky human being that makes it that much less palatable.

I live in Los Angeles, and I am continually astounded at the utter arrogance and rudeness of so many immigrants. They are rude, they push and shove, they cut in lines, they sneer and condescend.

I cannot imagine choosing to enter another country, legally or illegally, of my own free will, nobody holding a gun to my head...and then, instead of finding out what the preferences of my new neighbors are in order to avoid offending them, being unspeakably horrid and rude to them! What kind of mind set would justify such behavior? We're nice enough (or stupid enough) to let them in, and they show us nothing but contempt. Obviously far too many of today's immigrants hate America and its citizens, and are just using us for jobs or welfare. Why do we need these people, legal or illegal? Why are we letting them all in? Why are we doing this to ourselves?

97 posted on 02/09/2004 8:57:27 PM PST by Nea Wood (I want my country back.)
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To: JustPiper
Aww, it's only fair isn't after all, we chanted "Remember the Alamo". Evidently they have forgotten and need to be reminded.
98 posted on 02/09/2004 9:12:36 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: TheSpottedOwl
we can chant deport , deport, deport! or just yell INS and watch the scramble.
99 posted on 02/09/2004 9:35:20 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Nea Wood
Why are we letting them all in? Why are we doing this to ourselves?

To save 25 cents on strawberries.

100 posted on 02/10/2004 7:09:20 AM PST by Stu Cohen
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