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Viet Vet Urges Kerry To Come Clean
www.jenmartinez.com ^ | Sunday, May 25, 2003 | Larry J. O'Daniel #

Posted on 02/11/2004 5:36:13 PM PST by SAMWolf

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To: PhilDragoo
LOL! good one, Phil.
51 posted on 02/11/2004 9:20:45 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: PhilDragoo
Interview of Bui Tin conducted by Stephen Young
How North Vietnam Won The War

Taken from The Wall Street Journal, Thursday August 3, 1995

What did the North Vietnamese leadership think of the American antiwar movement? What was the purpose of the Tet Offensive? How could the U.S. have been more successful in fighting the Vietnam War? Bui Tin, a former colonel in the North Vietnamese army, answers these questions in the following excerpts from an interview conducted by Stephen Young, a Minnesota attorney and human-rights activist. Bui Tin, who served on the general staff of North Vietnam's army, received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975. He later became editor of the People's Daily, the official newspaper of Vietnam. He now lives in Paris, where he immigrated after becoming disillusioned with the fruits of Vietnamese communism.

Question: How did Hanoi intend to defeat the Americans?

Answer: By fighting a long war which would break their will to help South Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh said, "We don't need to win military victories, we only need to hit them until they give up and get out."

Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory?

A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.

Q: Did the Politburo pay attention to these visits? A: Keenly. Q: Why? A: Those people represented the conscience of America. The conscience of America was part of its war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor. America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win.

52 posted on 02/11/2004 9:24:19 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks for posting this.
53 posted on 02/11/2004 9:35:12 PM PST by dalebert
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To: cajun-jack
I know you speak the truth about your experience with Vietnam, and how the true veterans don't discuss what happened. My father-in-law won't speak much about his time in WWII. I also had a boyfriend who had been in Vietnam and he wouldn't talk much either. Just not a topic that either one wanted to revisit. Neither considered themselves a war hero, although I do know that my father-in-law was awarded the purple heart. He still suffers some physical difficulties resulting from those injuries.

John Kerry wants to have his cake and eat it, too. Soon enough he'll have to face up to all the things he's said and done over the years. He may be able to run, but he won't be able to hide from everything! This is the age of the internet, isn't it! The internet does a lot towards keeping our "freedom of the press" a real freedom!
54 posted on 02/11/2004 9:38:02 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: SAMWolf
** Kerry lacks what it takes to be Commander in Chief.

Kerry would be an extreme embarrassment to his party if nominated for President.**

Couldn't agree more with this combat officer, Larry J. O'Daniel.
55 posted on 02/11/2004 9:39:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: PhiKapMom
Isn't this unbelieveable -- my inbox has been filled today with anti-Kerry articles. Someone is doing a data dump on Kerry but the broadcast media is still all gaga over Kerry!

I am going nuts trying to compile, link, and cross-reference ( link ) all this stuff.

It's unbelievable how tainted Kerry is. How he managed to rise to high office is an astounding testimony to how gullible voters, and the "watchdog press" are.

56 posted on 02/12/2004 12:37:15 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: PhilDragoo
Kerry Key to My Victory!

Shout it to the mountain tops!

57 posted on 02/12/2004 5:56:01 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
http://www.620wtmj.com/620programs/charliesykes/weblog.asp

As stunning as his charges, Kerry insisted that the barbaric acts of American soldiers “were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.”

As evidence for his sweeping indictment of the American soldier in Vietnam, Kerry cited the testimony from the Winter Soldier Investigation. As Kerry explained: “The term Winter Soldier is a play on words of Thomas Paine's in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriots and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.”

The “Winter Soldier Investigation,” Mackubin Thomas Owens recently wrote in National Review Online, was, in fact “organized by the ‘usual suspects’ among antiwar celebrities such as Jane Fonda, Dick Gregory, and Kennedy-assassination conspiracy theorist, Mark Lane.” Owensis a professor of strategy and force planning at the Naval War College in Newport, R.I. He led a Marine infantry platoon in Vietnam in 1968-1969. He notes that “Kerry's 1971 testimony includes every left-wing cliché about Vietnam and the men who served there.”

Even worse, much of what Kerry said turned out to be demonstrably false.

Owens writes: “In fact, the entire Winter Soldiers Investigation was a lie. It was inspired by Mark Lane's 1970 book entitled Conversations with Americans, which claimed to recount atrocity stories by Vietnam veterans. This book was panned by James Reston Jr. and Neil Sheehan, not exactly known as supporters of the Vietnam War. Sheehan in particular demonstrated that many of Lane's ‘eye witnesses’ either had never served in Vietnam or had not done so in the capacity they claimed….

“When the Naval Investigative Service attempted to interview the so-called witnesses, most refused to cooperate, even after assurances that they would not be questioned about atrocities they may have committed personally. Those that did cooperate never provided details of actual crimes to investigators. The NIS also discovered that some of the most grisly testimony was given by fake witnesses who had appropriated the names of real Vietnam veterans. Guenter Lewy tells the entire study in his book, America in Vietnam.”

http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/vietnamcenter/events/1996_Symposium/96papers/lesson.htm

. Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi’s victory? A. It was essential to our strategy. Support for the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.

Q. [Why] did the Politburo pay attention to these visits? A. These people represented the conscience of America. The conscience of America was part of its war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor. America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize the will to win. While we need not attribute North Vietnam’s victory solely to domestic dissent in the U.S., we need to recognize that such dissent poses some unresolved issues. Clearly in a democracy, the government shouldn’t be able to mold public opinion. Dissent against an unwise or immoral war is a necessary part of democratic society. In some way, however, it must be possible to counter dissent which involves collaboration with the enemy. We must not allow the enemy to intervene in our domestic politics, even under the guise of dissent. However, this issue has yet to be satisfactorily resolved.

http://www.geocities.com/seavet72/AW/ws-kerry.htm

http://www.geocities.com/seavet72/LI/link-1.htm#AWP2-6

58 posted on 02/12/2004 6:54:30 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: Old Airplane Driver
"An Thoi is located on Dao (island) Phu Quouc, well off the western Vietnam coast"

Seems like I remember an Army aviation unit (Caribou) had their own unofficial R&R facility on an island off the coast but I don't remember the name.
59 posted on 02/12/2004 11:00:17 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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