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Peggy Noonan: The Paragraph- Help the White House make the case for re-election
Opinion Journal ^ | 02/12/04 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:04:18 PM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

When you are a conservative and tend to support conservatives, it will come as a surprise, and an unwelcome one, when you ding one, as I dinged President Bush the other day about his "Meet the Press" performance. Of those who responded, about 60% disagreed with me, and the rest were more or less in agreement. Many of those who disagreed with me said they thought the president had done well with Tim Russert, that the interview made clear his decency and sincerity. Others said I was kicking the president when he's down and that's the problem with conservative pundits, they can't be trusted. My answer is the obvious one: It is the job of a writer to write the truth as he sees it, and if it's an uncomfortable truth, then so be it.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 02/11/2004 9:04:19 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; mombonn; Sabertooth; beckett; BlueAngel; JohnHuang2; *Peggy Noonan list; ...
Peggy Ping!
2 posted on 02/11/2004 9:05:05 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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To: Pokey78
Two Words:

Salman Pak!

3 posted on 02/11/2004 9:06:14 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Pokey78
Noonan just wants to hear only one thing from the White House: "You're hired, when can you start?"
4 posted on 02/11/2004 9:09:56 PM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Pokey78
Now for our challenge. What should the Bush paragraph consist of? How to make it new? How to make it memorable, and true? Readers, you are invited to wrap up in one paragraph what the Bush campaign should say as it unveils itself anew. The White House reads this site. They'll see it. Take the floor and tell them how to do it.

"Four score and seven years ago.........

5 posted on 02/11/2004 9:12:27 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Pokey78
I honestly do not know why Peggy gets paid any money at all. The only reason the base is restless is because of the 2 months of dem advertisement for their candidate and the lib press humping its own leg. The fact is this, Bush keeps his powder dry until the dem nominee gets his footing and starts his own momentum. Then Bush the baseball player, the fighter pilot, the Texas hunter, nails his target right in the heart. Lay low in the bush and let the prey come to you, don't shoot wildly.

I honestly do not now how Kerry made it out of 'Nam considering his tact. It is a good thing he left when he did, I could just see him trying to pull a Rambo like he is now.

Bush is a cool cat, something the elitist press core, including Peggy, have absolutely no concept of; if she was 20 years younger I'd be happy to show her the way, but alas she is too old for me, and too old for the new political game. A game based on a clean, economic, business acumen, where everything is streamlined and the sluts are kicked to the curb.

6 posted on 02/11/2004 9:14:19 PM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: Porterville
Maybe Peggy should go be "skerred" with the liberals.
7 posted on 02/11/2004 9:16:27 PM PST by bornintexas
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To: Pokey78
They (the Bush team) don't know how to be scared. They probably can't wrap their brains around the idea they should be. Or rather in the abstract they know they should be--they read the papers--but in the particular, in their minds and souls, I doubt they have fully wrapped their brains around it. Which is too bad, because fear makes you sharp.

After a GWB press meeting early in the 2000 primaries, Chris Matthews made the following comment: "Those Harvard guys never sweat."

8 posted on 02/11/2004 9:17:47 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Pokey78
"Early to bed, early to rise..."...nah...
9 posted on 02/11/2004 9:20:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance (An income tax is like a cowpie...Flatten it, and it's still a cowpie...)
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To: Pokey78
"Tested and rested..."

Nope...
10 posted on 02/11/2004 9:21:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance (An income tax is like a cowpie...Flatten it, and it's still a cowpie...)
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To: Pokey78
I think the Dems are making the case for Bush's re-election.
11 posted on 02/11/2004 9:21:58 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Pokey78
Bump for later.
12 posted on 02/11/2004 9:22:10 PM PST by July 4th (George W. Bush, Avenger of the Bones)
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To: Pokey78
"George W. Bush has been misunderestimated..."

uhuh...
13 posted on 02/11/2004 9:22:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance (An income tax is like a cowpie...Flatten it, and it's still a cowpie...)
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To: dalebert
Good point.

All of this negativism is going to catch up to them and bite them in the butt.
14 posted on 02/11/2004 9:23:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance (An income tax is like a cowpie...Flatten it, and it's still a cowpie...)
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To: Porterville
Well said. Peggy had to write something. Peggy wanted some more attention. Peggy is impatient for the "paragraph." Peggy is hanging with Chrissy to often. Peggy is the voice for the nervous conservatives (how sweet). Peggy is helping us understand. Peggy. Peggy. Peggy.
15 posted on 02/11/2004 9:24:40 PM PST by gipper81
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To: Pokey78
Why do you think people are condidering not voting for Bush ? Because the stock market went down and took alot of good peoples money with it. Scared most people out of the market who are now so afraid to get back in. They watch in awe and desperation as the market climbs back up without them. Many can blame Bush for this.

Also, we now have a beachhead for the first time in our history right in the middle east. But why does the price of oil keep going up? A high price for oil acts like a tax on the US economy as well as the global economy. Why cant Iraq produce more oil and get the price down. Also we should exert major pressure on the Saudis to produce more oil and get the price down. The fact that this is not happening is astounding and tragic. And the Bush people say vote for me because we must fight terrorism. Well fine but do the other things too.
16 posted on 02/11/2004 9:26:03 PM PST by SAR1
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To: Pokey78
The last sort of rocking White House was that of the abstemious Baptist Mr. Carter..

Seem to remember stories of Clinton people smoking pot on the White House roof. It would be hard for me to picture that bunch of juveniles as doing anything but contradicting this claim.

17 posted on 02/11/2004 9:28:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance (An income tax is like a cowpie...Flatten it, and it's still a cowpie...)
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To: Porterville
Peggy is worthy of the money she earns as a writer because she is immensely gifted and has a heart of gold. She gets paid because people---not just the Wall Street Journal publishers---buy her work.

However, I agree that we should criticize her call for fear. I don't recall Reagan ever showing fear. And we'd probably think a little less of him if he ever did.

18 posted on 02/11/2004 9:30:39 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: EternalVigilance
Here's my submission:

"Given half a chance, the democrats will get us all killed."
19 posted on 02/11/2004 9:33:11 PM PST by alnick
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To: SAR1
"Why do you think people are condidering not voting for Bush ? Because the stock market went down and took alot of good peoples money with it. Scared most people out of the market who are now so afraid to get back in.

They should never have been in the market in the FIRST place if they were not willing to stick with it. It's the GREEDY who expect to never get hit in the market. Looks to me like Pres. Bush is doing a FINE job of keeping our economy going in one direction....UP. Jobs follow. And, without addressing terror, we will have neither of the aforementioned.....and we'll have no need for much gasoline, either. And, furthermore, the President has to work with an economy drug down by HEAVY regulation. We've lived with liberal incrementalism for years....now the tide is turning to conservative incrementalism....and it won't happen overnight, or in 3 years, either. /rant

20 posted on 02/11/2004 9:33:17 PM PST by goodnesswins (If you're Voting Dem/Constitution Party/Libertarian/Not - I guess it's easier than using your brain.)
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To: SAR1
They watch in awe and desperation as the market climbs back up without them. Many can blame Bush for this.

Uh, no.

The best traders and investors take full responsibility for their trades. Only the losers look to blame others for their failures.

21 posted on 02/11/2004 9:33:23 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Pokey78
"It's not about us, and it's not about them...it's about we."
We are not going to give up the fight.
We are not going to back down or back away.
We are solving the problems created in the past rather than talking about them.
We are doing these things in a way that, while they may create pain and deficits and unsuredness for the short-term,
will instill a solid base upon the rock of peoples own initiative for the future.
22 posted on 02/11/2004 9:33:50 PM PST by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: Pokey78
An imperfect world, that we have been often sheltered from in our great nation, must be met with cool resolve. A government taxation system that has always grown must have someone who will say, No. Honest faith in our nation and its heritage is in our hearts and thank God it is reflected in our chief executive. As the person sworn to execute our laws, the President must help a powerless Congress be restored as the legislative branch in an age where judges have begun to believe that legislation is their responsibility.
23 posted on 02/11/2004 9:34:29 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: Vision Thing
But, seriously, the pundants these days do not have a clue. Not even the fat red headed Irish guy on Meet The Stressed... they are wrong to the core, and they make soo much money. We here at FR know ten times more than all the slobs in the Washington Press Corps combined and we do it for free. That is why Rush, Hannity, and even the DU'mmys come to us to figure out what the hell is going on. I'm poor, but right now, I feel pretty rich knowing the course of our leaders.
24 posted on 02/11/2004 9:36:13 PM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: SAR1
Uh, if you haven't noticed, the market is going WAY UP. People who yanked out and are afraid of going back in have only themselves to blame, not the president. Oh, and I'm sorry oil is a buck and a half a gallon, how awful. Much better to have high taxes and more terrorist attacks in the USA. Bush is leading in many ways, whiners who can't see all the good and want to nitpick at a leader who has brought us through the darkest moment in modern American history can pound sand.
25 posted on 02/11/2004 9:36:13 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: bornintexas
I don't even like Noonan as I always thought her a Bushbot- and she has been (I will vote for Bush but only holding my nose). But when such a Bush lover, as Noonan offers a realistic critique of Bush's abysmal performance with Russert and she is attacked by "conservatives"? My G*D? What is wrong with you people? She is not "party line" enough for you people? I turned red listening to Bush's stuttering performance on Sunday. It was obvious to the entire nation! He looked scared. Even National Review said Bush should have been better prepared for that interview and had better get his act together! Sycophants Bush doesn't need. Noonan's loyalty to the GOP is not in question and to even suggest it is laughable.
26 posted on 02/11/2004 9:36:48 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Pokey78; Dog Gone
I'd start with this, from an Iraqi making fun of the anti-war left.

I laughed so hard I cried; if you haven't read it, you must.

D

27 posted on 02/11/2004 9:36:49 PM PST by daviddennis (;)
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To: Porterville
I honestly do not know why Peggy gets paid any money at all. The only reason the base is restless is because of the 2 months of dem advertisement for their candidate and the lib press humping its own leg. ... Bush keeps his powder dry until the dem nominee gets his footing.... Then Bush the baseball player, the fighter pilot, the Texas hunter, nails his target right in the heart....

Agreed and well said. Reading Peggy Noonan's stuff of late is like trying to grab onto air. I get done sifting through the poop only to discover that there's no pony. I wonder why I bothered. It's a long way to November. Bush has one HUGE advantage over Kerry. He knows who he is and he knows what he stands for.

28 posted on 02/11/2004 9:39:35 PM PST by Pedertwin (Peder)
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To: Old Sarge
Nailed in one! Oh yes, and she's a hack.
29 posted on 02/11/2004 9:39:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Porterville
Bush is a cool cat, something the elitist press core, including Peggy, have absolutely no concept of; if she was 20 years younger I'd be happy to show her the way, but alas she is too old for me, and too old for the new political game.

LOL, I am sure Peggy is just dying for you to show her the light. Politics are politics, whether today or 20 years ago. Peggy is amoung the best and helped write some of the most rememberable speeches of all time. Peggy is not someone that should be blown off so easily.

30 posted on 02/11/2004 9:40:06 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Vision Thing
What about all the money lost in mutual funds, wiped out the little guy.Their will be resentment from this is all I am saying.
31 posted on 02/11/2004 9:42:08 PM PST by SAR1
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To: Pokey78
I would start with a joke, you know loosen up the room before you roll on and on about all the pie in the sky crap that every president has to promise...

"Ahem....A priest, a Rabbi and a duck walk into a bar...

32 posted on 02/11/2004 9:42:09 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: Pokey78
read later
33 posted on 02/11/2004 9:42:46 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Always Right
Like I said, she is too old, but if she has a daughter, I am open arms.
34 posted on 02/11/2004 9:43:41 PM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: Old Sarge
Noonan just wants to hear only one thing from the White House: "You're hired, when can you start?"

Peggy doesn't want or need a job. Anyone who thinks Bush hit a home run on Meet the Depressed is full of it. At best, Bush drew a walk. Bush did not hurt himself, but he missed a chance to score.

35 posted on 02/11/2004 9:44:23 PM PST by Always Right
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To: gipper81
Peggy. Peggy. Peggy.

You have to wonder about that. How do they get "Peggy" from "Margaret?" In fact Margaret has more diminuations than any other name I can think of, but "Peggy" bears no resemblence (sans the 'g') to the orignial. "Meg" "Maggie" "Marge" "Margie" "Peg" "Mags" -- the incongruity is killing me!

36 posted on 02/11/2004 9:44:42 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Everyone is stupid! That is why they do all those stupid things! -- H. Simpson.)
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To: SAR1
Old Wall Street motto : THERE ARE BEARS,THERE ARE BULLS, AND THERE ARE PIGS.

Sounds like you know the last group and stupid ones to boot.

37 posted on 02/11/2004 9:44:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: over3Owithabrain
Look I am republican and just because the europians pay 3 bucks doesnt mean I should. We are in a position to get the price of oil down and we are not taking advantage of our leverage and position. Too bad.
38 posted on 02/11/2004 9:45:54 PM PST by SAR1
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To: Porterville
Like I said, she is too old, but if she has a daughter, I am open arms.

So is Margaratte Thatcher, but she and Peggy are both brilliant ladies.

39 posted on 02/11/2004 9:46:17 PM PST by Always Right
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To: alnick
Close.

Here's mine (ok, its 3 paragraphs).

Kerry: Turned his back on his soldier buddies as soon as his feet touched ground in the U.S. Buddied-up with Hanoi Jane instead. Told Hanoi to use the POWs however they saw fit. Heat. Kitchen. Kerry knows neither.

Me: Yale Grad. National Guard...not a hero, just a pilot. Harvard MBA. Worked. Learned Disappointment. Worked. Learned Success. Worked for Texas. Did well; people thought so. Ran for President. Won. Worked for American people. Saw my countrymen perish on 9/11. Learned that some people want Americans dead, period. Dems ok with me. Saddam was consorting with those fellas in some way or another (chems, bios, nukes...bad stuff). Dems say get him. Go get him. Can't find all the "stuff" that EVERYONE (dems, Frenchie, Helmut, etc.) thought he had. Election year. Dems not ok, say I'm not good.

Huh?

40 posted on 02/11/2004 9:46:54 PM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: Porterville
I honestly do not know why Peggy gets paid any money at all.

Because she writes beautifully, has extensive political experience, and people are willing to pay to read her opinion?

41 posted on 02/11/2004 9:47:29 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: Pokey78; All
Peggy - I think that Bush's supporters should get a chance to speak FOR him.

Anyone who listens to Ruth, who was on Rush's show a couple of days ago, understands the man we believe in, and how very much we know he MUST stay in office. I want a future. I too, want it done, and want it done now. The cause is noble and the war is just...and our future and the future of those we love depends upon our national backbone, our resolve, and our victory.

Listen to the voice of America. Listen to Ruth speak for the Nation, and perhaps, for George W. Bush, too...

(sorry, you'll have to cut and paste)http://www.dallas.net/~jvpoll/politics/RoseInRuthfordNJ_Rush040209f.ram

Maybe they can cut portions of what she has to say into segments for a "series" type ad. After all, selling your message effectively means putting "your product" into the hands of those would be buyers, and telling them what it's going to mean to them. Rose captures the facts, and the feelings--spelling it all out beautifully.

NordP

42 posted on 02/11/2004 9:47:47 PM PST by NordP (Peace through Strength - W 2004 !!!)
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To: nopardons
Yeah keep talking and when Bush is not reelected and you are in shock think about why.
43 posted on 02/11/2004 9:48:07 PM PST by SAR1
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To: alnick
That just rings true!
44 posted on 02/11/2004 9:48:15 PM PST by IGOTMINE (All we are saying... is give guns a chance!)
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To: SAR1
"Scared most people out of the market who are now so afraid to get back in"

Actually investment in stocks went to a record high last week :)

Today Greenspan said the economy is in very good shape and jobs will be added for sure !

45 posted on 02/11/2004 9:51:21 PM PST by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: Always Right
You are being charitable to Bush about his performance on Sunday. It was terrible. Why freepers are going insane against Noonan for pointing out the obvious is puzzling. She is not the only conservative to say so. Check out NRO's daily Blog. How about George Will? I was shocked at how poorly he performed. When asked about the WMD and how they haven't been found and what he would say to the families of the dead American troops-- he stuttered and went on an incoherent tirade that included even AIDS in Africa. If I were the parent of a dead trooper in Iraq and I saw and heard that answer as to why we are in Iraq? I think I would vomit.
46 posted on 02/11/2004 9:51:44 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: SAR1
Stocks bottomed out a couple of months before the 2002 elections, but the bear market did not hurt the GOP, which won elections in Congress and state governments.

Stock market losses were not a politically damaging issue to the GOP back then. And now that stock market losses are a thing of the past, they will not be an issue in 2004.

47 posted on 02/11/2004 9:52:18 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Snuffington
I haven't seen a pundant worth a load of garbage in a long time. The only person I have seen worth their salt lately that wasn't the President is Colin Powell ready to rip the throat out of some foppish congressman.... now thats comedy!!!
48 posted on 02/11/2004 9:52:29 PM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: Burkeman1
One question, what party will be on the run tomorrow morning? I bet you it is not the Republicans.
49 posted on 02/11/2004 9:53:33 PM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: america-rules
You may be right but I dont trust Greenspan
50 posted on 02/11/2004 9:53:35 PM PST by SAR1
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