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Explosive Story: GOP has asked British SS to bug phones of American political candidates!

Posted on 02/15/2004 8:36:43 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

FOX NEWS 11:25am EST 2-15-2004

Fox news is interviewing John Loftus, Formers Justice Department Prosectutor who states that he has an inside scoop that "the Republican Party has asked the British Secret Service to bug phones of American political Candidates. "

FOX NEWS Eric Shawn: "It's a very serious and very shocking story."

JOHN LOFTUS: "That allegation seems very storng of that is the case. Why would any political party want to bug someone else?

It's a juicy way of running a smear campaign behind the works. We have been doing that for about 50 years and it started with president Roosevelt. He had signed a secret treaty with Britian in 1943 that let them each set up listening posts on each other's soil with no search warrants. It's a great little scheme. "

"So the British can use American computers to bug American politicians, and the Americans can use British computers to bug British politicians and each side can truthfully say that they aren't spying on their own citizens. They are just trading information under the table."

ERIC: How widespread is this. Members of the Security Council admitted to me that they are being bugged and that it wasn't surprising, they expected that.

JOHN: "What congress doesn't realise is that this is meant to favor one party only. In 1978 Carter tried to ban taping without a court order. So the bill is that the NSA cannot target american citizens, but not other countries from doing it. "


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2004; dnc; electionpresident; ericshawn; foxnews; johnloftus; rnc; transcript
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1 posted on 02/15/2004 8:36:44 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
All's fair in love and war (politics).
2 posted on 02/15/2004 8:38:41 AM PST by Galtoid
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Reeks of Watergate. If true it should have the same result.
3 posted on 02/15/2004 8:40:23 AM PST by steve50 ("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
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To: Galtoid
Somehow I don't think most freepers would agree with you (at least if the shoe was on the other foot).
4 posted on 02/15/2004 8:42:09 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Why would any political party want to bug someone else? It's a juicy way of running a smear campaign behind the works. We have been doing that for about 50 years and it started with president Roosevelt.

And was never a story until now. Hmmmmmmm.....

5 posted on 02/15/2004 8:42:34 AM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
This is NEWS? I guess it maybe, if you have been living under a rock for a few decades. I am sure that all of Klintoon's phone sex with Monica L. is on a secure hard drive in England. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
6 posted on 02/15/2004 8:43:22 AM PST by Agent Smith
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CONTINUING ( I am typing this from TIVO, so these are word for word )

JOHN: " American computers record every long distance phone call everywhere in America all day. Targeting means that they sift through that haystack to find the needle. They program it to search for a democratic candidate's voice and retrieve all conversations. The British foreign liaison information cannot be shared with congress, because of the 1943 law. So the democrats don't know that the British are listening to all of their phone calls. They old spy base used to be at 218 Pennsylvania Ave, and it was moved to the Canadian Embassy right opposite of Capitol Hill. Because on the west side of the capitol are where all the offices are with views of the Washington Monument. "

ERIC: " We hear about all this spying and alleged spying and I am sure that we will be hearing about more "..


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8 posted on 02/15/2004 8:43:39 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Hey Botox Boy, why the long face?)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Interesting timeing ?
9 posted on 02/15/2004 8:43:57 AM PST by tet68
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Members of the Security Council

It must be the sh!t detail to have to filter thru the uns "intelligence"

10 posted on 02/15/2004 8:45:00 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
This may have more to do with foreign funds coming in from overseas via Great Britain.

I'd like to hear more.
11 posted on 02/15/2004 8:45:07 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: steve50
Reeks of Watergate. If true it should have the same result.

If the Dems do it too this story will wither and go away.

12 posted on 02/15/2004 8:45:13 AM PST by In_25_words_or_less
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Next Scandal? :

I was just watching an interview on Fox News and this journalist was on a segment which they call "The Scoop" with Eric Shaun. Anyway, the man he was interviewing said he was going to break a story this week that the Republican Party is having the United Kingdom bug/tap phones at the DNC and their candidates. Apparently there is a loophole that allows the UK to do it for us and for us to do it for him but he is going to spread out more evidence that this is going on right now.

I expect this to become the next media feeding fenzy.

Anything to avoid the Kerry story...?

13 posted on 02/15/2004 8:45:24 AM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Some seem to be getting awfully excited about a rumor.
14 posted on 02/15/2004 8:45:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: Eala
"And was never a story until now. Hmmmmmmm....."

The strategy is obviously to keep Bush on the defensive by making wild accusations that he must defend against...even if they're untrue. Most people will hear the accusation but not the rebuttal.

15 posted on 02/15/2004 8:47:09 AM PST by blam
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Here's my take on what the "logic" of this story will be:

Echelon in the UK monitors all US calls.

The DNC makes phone calls in the US.

Therefore, Echelon is monitoring the DNC.

The White House has access to Echelon intercepts.

The White House is run by a GOP president.

Therefore, the GOP is telling the UK to bug the DNC.

Whereas, the reality is that this stuff has been going on for decades, and is independent of the GOP and the Dems, other than our reps keep allowing it to happen.

16 posted on 02/15/2004 8:47:24 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - talking out both ends of the horse since 1970...)
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To: In_25_words_or_less
If the Dems do it too this story will wither and go away.

If the dems do it too both parties should be voted out.

17 posted on 02/15/2004 8:47:51 AM PST by steve50 ("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
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To: cripplecreek
o the Brits have such a thing called a secret service?? sounds odd to me.
18 posted on 02/15/2004 8:48:03 AM PST by WHBates
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Please wake me when this election is over.
19 posted on 02/15/2004 8:48:29 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
This shyster is trolling for publicity!

http://www.john-loftus.com/default.asp
20 posted on 02/15/2004 8:48:41 AM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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