The Reality of Outsourcing

Townhall.com ^ | Bruce Bartlett

[oceanview]

I'm talking long island here. for a tenured teacher, they make way more then that $51K average. Trust me on this.

and that rate for computer systems analysts only counts the ones who actually have jobs in that field. as they are offshored to India, and take a job in another field, they no longer count as part of that statistic. And your article mentions accounting? My friend at IBM accounting/finance in NJ was just told two weeks ago: bye-bye, their jobs are going to Brazil. Any schoolteachers being offshored to Brazil?

As with everything else, you can make the numbers show anything you want, and the UFT is no exception.

[oceanview]

well, good for them I say. Many of the sales guys I know are also upset about this offshoring, because they fear it will mean the products they are given to sell will be of lower quality.

[oceanview]

I think you've been exposed to too many used car salesman. People who work in sales are not all like that.

[oceanview]

Worked with many? I am one.

I agree with you in general, but hey, everyone can acquire new skills!

[Redcloak]

If you want a nice, quiet, stable economy, then a lovely jungle would be just the place for you. Nothing changes there. It's just like it was ten thousand years ago. Wouldn't that be great? Your job would never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever go away.

[RussianConservative]

Why impossible? If item of data cross from server in India to server in US, then tariffable...or put large wage tarrif on monies sent to salaries of Indian employee...that suck up reason.

[RussianConservative]

No, but tarrif assess on payroll to ship to India and yes on phone call why not? Charge for use assessed by phone compnay, government can too. Data transfer in packet, packet traceable, server to server connection traceable, why not?

[An.American.Expatriate]

... by defending the concept of outsourcing -- contracting with foreigners for information technology services.

This is NOT the definition of Outsourcing!! Outsourcing is hiring an outside agency to do work which they are more proficient at. For example, hiring a firm to do your bookkeeping instead of hiring a full time Accountant(s).

The "Offshore" part only comes into play when
a) The Offshore Company is "cheaper", [most are] and
b) The Offshore Company offers at least the same quality which can be purchased at home. [most do NOT]

Outsourcing is real and has been around for a very long time - whining about it is about the same as whining about "globalization" - it may feel good to whine about it, be the whiner will achieve nada.

Instead of whining, we should be looking for ways to make the domestic IT Outsourcers more attractive.

[A. Pole]

You live in a chaotic universe, get used to it.

People create the society and culture in order not to live in a jungle. Free marketeers should move to some jungle in Guyana or else and stay there.

It was not best advice - free marketeers should move to San Francisco - see Chaos in San Francisco

[Outsourcing=Competition]

TAriffs are to keep unions happy and are a luddite response.

[Outsourcing=Competition]

HIPAA is uneforceable in India. Privacy is a dead letter to any outsourcing of data processing sent to India.

The Medical Privacy - National Standards to Protect the Privacy of Personal Health Information India to Adopt Data Privacy Rules. They already have adopted the same laws. If a company transgresses them then they'll be brought up before Indian courts who will be stricter with them because they know that if anything happens it could badly affect the money they are making -- capitalism will reform their legal system and keep them good.

[Outsourcing=Competition]

"The better stuff: R&D and design remains here in the States." Give it time, they will also be sent out of the country.

Well, if the big multinationals send it outside then they will be the losers because the American deisgners will go and create better products that'll knock the socks off the one made by their former company.

[looscnnn]

"Well, if the big multinationals send it outside then they will be the losers because the American deisgners will go and create better products that'll knock the socks off the one made by their former company."

Sure they could. If you look at cars though, there are some American concept cars that are pretty cool, but a majority of the concept cars that catch people's attention are the ones designed out of the country. Unfortunately the R&D and design are slowly moving away. Innovations are happening more overseas than here and it is not just due to the lower salaries. Case in point Sony's Aibo, Honda's Asimo.

[Redcloak]

Not doing a very good job of making your crypto-socialist point, are you?

[Paul Ross]

Japan would never have become a manufacturing colossus without a(n) UNPROTECTED trading partner (the U.S.) that was immensely wealthy and enjoyed a much higher standard of living than Japan. All the tariff protection in the world hasn't kept Japan from bleeding manufacturing jobs to places like Malaysia, China, and India.

Japan is now sucking on the same Free Traitor Kool-Aid as the U.S.

[Paul Ross]

India has an abysmal track record of enforcing the rights of foreigners...even when they recognize those rights at all. your new rules, if and when finally enacted, will just continue to serve as PR-spin window dressing.

[Paul Ross]

India has an abysmal track record of enforcing the rights of foreigners...even when they recognize those rights at all. your new rules, if and when finally enacted, will just continue to serve as PR-spin window dressing.

[Paul Ross]

TAriffs are to keep unions happy and are a luddite response.

Tariffs are classical Republican Economic theory. And they are the constitutional tax in the U.S. Hardly luddite, since the luddites opposed industrialization, and the Republican-sponsored tariffs produced the U.S. industrial behemoth. And proudly so. Even Uncle Miltie admits this.

And as to your political-sop argument: Then why are the RATs still refusing to implement any tariffs??? If anything, they are more 'Free Trade' dogmatists than the pubbies. It is because their real objective, global socialism, is on the verge of effective triumph...utilizing this 'Free Trade' as a battering ram to destroy our U.S. sovereeignty. And Kennedy/Kerry/Hitlery will stone-wall, and divert and 'spin' their nominal supporters and backers until they have subverted the constitution so thoroughly that they can then erect a 'dictatorship of the proletariat'.