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Why did Hollywood come to Hate Religion?
Intellectual Conservative ^ | October 10, 2003 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 02/21/2004 11:57:27 AM PST by Mel Gibson

A Tale of Two Hollywoods by Bruce Walker

Why did Hollywood come to hate religion?

The elitist snit over The Passion has everything with anti-theism and nothing to do with anti-Semitism. Once Hollywood -- Old Hollywood -- produced films which exalted the gentle role of faith in our lives and that decried the consequence of people rejecting the principles of their faith.

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Fiddler on the Roof is a poignant story of Jewish survival in Tsarist Russia; the villains are Christians who ignore Christian ethics by mistreating Jews for being Jews. Exodus shows how Christians ignored Christ’s injunction to care for others by their indifference to the plight of post-Holocaust Jewry. Gentleman’s Agreement is a commentary on bigoted Christians sneering at people who entered the world, like Jesus, as Jews.

Faithless Christians, not the Christian faith, are the problem in the films. Why did these films not offend Christians? Because recognition of sin and repentance of sin is a central theme of Christianity. Persecution of Jews was never a precept of Christian faith, and America -- the best replication of the diversity of Christian faith -- is the best example of Christian sympathy for Jews. The lyrics to Exodus were written by a devout Christian and a patriotic American, Pat Boone.

Jews also celebrated the goodness of faithful Christians. The studio system of Old Hollywood was dominated by Jews. These men produced films like The Bells of St. Mary, Angels in the Outfield, The Sound of Music, Going My Way and Boy’s Town. Sympathy toward good Christians was reciprocated by these and many other grateful and patriotic Jews. Honest appreciation of goodness of Christians was never considered to be a betrayal of Judaism.

Indeed, when Old Hollywood was flourishing (and when good films were being produced) Reform Judaism was being conformed into a noble attempt to reconcile the manifest goodness of both Judaism and Christianity. The greatest Jewish theologian of the last century considered Christianity to be the Judaism of non-Jews -- the best path to God for those not of the Jewish faith.

American Jews not only appreciated the decency of American Christians, when they acted like Christians, but the Old Hollywood presented Jewishness in film. One of the first talking films, The Jazz Singer, showed the tension between modernity and traditional Judaism, and showed a resolution to those conflicts. Other films, like the Benny Goodman Story, showed Jews could be as bigoted toward Christians as Christians toward Jews. These films treated faith faithfully. People made moral choices, and those choices made with the knowledge of a loving God worked out best.

These moral ideas were perfected in Chariots of Fire, the story of a brave Jew overcoming the prejudices of un-Christian Christians and of a pious Christian overcoming equally daunting obstacles of deep piety for the Glory of God in a world that, after the horror of the Great War, turned away from God. Without pulling punches, Chariots of Fire celebrates the Judeo-Christian heritage.

Why did Hollywood come to hate religion? Marx replaced God. Marxists replaced faithful people. This new and dreadful Hollywood sought to divide us from God and from our common humanity as creatures of God. Because God trumps every petty nastiness of life, He became the principal foe of New Hollywood.

New Hollywood began to produce films like Agnes of God and The Last Temptation of Christ, which mocked Christianity with the venom no different from the treatment Jews received in Nazi propaganda films. No goodness was allowed serious Christians and no accusation was too vile to make against Christianity.

New Hollywood also mocked Judaism. King David showed Richard Gere degenerating into a bitter agonistic by the end of his life, and even nice productions like The Prince of Egypt reduced God to a bit player. Nominal Jews like Woody Allen made films that were sentimental toward Jewishness, but coldly indifferent toward Judaism.

As Michael Medved, film critic and observant Jew, notes in his documentary Hollywood Hates Religion, even remakes of old classics like Cape Fear and We’re No Angels were edited to introduce anti-theistic themes which were absent from the original version or to remove God from the remake.

The Passion does not portray Jews as bad. It portrays some Jews as good and some Jews as bad. Other noble films have portrayed some Christians as good and some Christians as bad. This is consistent with both Christian and Jewish theology. Indeed, it is in many ways the salient characteristic of Judeo-Christian faith.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: christianity; hollyweird; hollywood; irreligiousleft; melgibson; religion

1 posted on 02/21/2004 11:57:28 AM PST by Mel Gibson
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To: Mel Gibson
Tender Mercies 1983? took 1 year to get financed. The bridge financing was finally obtained when Duvall put up some of the money himself. It won 2 academy awards, including Best Actor (Duvall) and returned 600% on its investment over 4 years.
Touched by an Angel was scheduled to be cancelled after 4 episodes, until a massive write-in campaign happened. It was more profitable than Seinfeld (80% cheaper to produce)

Go figure.
2 posted on 02/21/2004 12:11:52 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: Mel Gibson
When Satan was cast down to the earth....he musta first landed in Hollywood, CA and said to himself : "Home sweet home"
4 posted on 02/21/2004 12:27:55 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Pheadra
I think you know the answer to all of your questions:)
5 posted on 02/21/2004 12:41:00 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: joesnuffy
Hollywood was pretty good until the mid 1960's when the old moguls started to die off, and the left wing "Harvard-Heads" began to replace them.
6 posted on 02/21/2004 12:42:36 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: Mel Gibson
As long as they continue to make $$$$$$they will get away with it

SO ask the religious types who continue to pay $$$ to watch the slop Hollywood puts out
7 posted on 02/21/2004 12:48:05 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Mel Gibson
The Old Hollywood was actually part of an old popular culture establishment that was friendly towards religion.

In the 1950's, for example, Christian values and religious belief were reflected throughout mainstream popular culture, not just in movies. Popular songs with religious overtones included "Les Trois Cloches" ("The Three Bells"), "I Believe," "This Old House," "They Locked God Outside the Iron Curtain," "The Red Deck of Cards," "He," and "He's Got the Whole World In His Hands." Even Elvis Presley's 1958 hit "Hard-Headed Woman" was based on stories from the Old Testament.

Some of the hottest-selling books of the decade included A Man Called Peter, the story of Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall, by his widow Katherine Marshall (which was also made into a movie) and The Power of Positive Thinking by the influential preacher Norman Vincent Peale. And one of the biggest television stars of the decade was Fulton Sheen, a Catholic cleric.

While it is true that you can still find music, books, and television shows that emphasize religious themes and values, you have to look for them in nich markets such as Christian radio and television stations, as they have long since vanished from mainstream popular culture.

8 posted on 02/21/2004 12:55:19 PM PST by Taft in '52
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To: Mel Gibson
Hollywood is exactly like the rest of the anti-Jehovah world. Their core hatred is a result, of course, of choosing to follow Satan, even though most don't consciously make the choice. The surface hatred is because they don't want anyone or anything to suggest that right and wrong exists. Simply put, they want to be able to live with themselves without giving up their sin, so they find ways to convince themselves there's no such thing as sin. Then EVERYTHING is wide open. Every perversion is okay. They can live their hedonistic lives and think of themselves as "good."

Again, it all comes back to Satan. If you don't believe that, ask yourself why every other religion in the world is okay with the left. No problem. "Respect their faith," they'd say. Not with the Judeo-Christian God, however. The merest mention of Him is enough to send many of the Godless into a manic fit. Why? Because Jehovah, Jesus, the Judeo-Christian God, is the only one Satan is scared of. And there's the whole issue in a nutshell.

MM

9 posted on 02/21/2004 12:55:21 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: international american
"Hollywood was pretty good until the mid 1960's"

Except for the communists there in the 30's, 40's & 50's.

Lucille Ball was a registered commie. Supposedly she joined the CPUSA in the 30's to 'please' her grand-father - yeah, sure. And when I found out John Garfield was a commie, I quit watching any of his movies on TCM. (And why the heck did he have a girls nick name - Julie? What was that all about?!?)

As far as I'm concerned J Edgar Hoover should've arrested them ALL and shipped them to mother Russia on a tramp steamer.

10 posted on 02/21/2004 1:10:54 PM PST by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: Condor51
We all know the "Hollywood Ten", and it was more like 80, but remember the old moguls FIRED them all.


I was all for HUAC!! I wish we had them today!!
11 posted on 02/21/2004 1:18:33 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: Mel Gibson
Many from the porn business and their supporters took over and have made it more or less a closed shop. Look at the values promoted by many of the prime time shows. Why promote values that destroy family life and promote one-night stands in this age of AIDS?
12 posted on 02/21/2004 1:22:04 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
"Why promote values that destroy family life and promote one-night stands in this age of AIDS?"

This has been going on since the late 60's.

13 posted on 02/21/2004 1:45:44 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: joesnuffy
When Satan was cast down to the earth....he musta first landed in Hollywood, CA and said to himself : "Home sweet home" How right you are...I live in West Los Angeles. I feel weird everytime I have to go into Hollywood.
14 posted on 02/21/2004 1:46:25 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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To: international american
Duh???

It is becaue hollywood is nihilistic, and religion believes in an absolute right/wrong
15 posted on 02/21/2004 1:47:30 PM PST by raloxk
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To: Queen Jadis
Since the communist infiltration in the 50's. The infiltration which Sen. McCarthy was trying to bust.
16 posted on 02/21/2004 1:47:53 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Queen Jadis
"I live in West Los Angeles. I feel weird everytime I have to go into Hollywood."

Stay out of West Hollywood. At red lights, they walk up and peek at your crotch:)

I haven't driven through there since the mid 80's.

17 posted on 02/21/2004 1:50:39 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: joesnuffy
When Satan was cast down to the earth....he musta first landed in Hollywood, CA and said to himself : "Home sweet home"

Hear! Hear!
Ain't it the truth!

18 posted on 02/21/2004 1:51:06 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tag Lines Repaired While You Wait! Reasonable Prices! Fast Service!)
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To: raloxk
No Duh needed. I have an office at Warner Bros.
19 posted on 02/21/2004 1:51:59 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: Mel Gibson
Hollywood endorses everything the Bible speaks out against. Hollywood doesn't want any competition is recruiting evil to its ranks. Evil is not tolerant, patient or kind ... it is the exact opposite.
20 posted on 02/21/2004 1:53:17 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Condor51
"Lucille Ball was a registered commie ..."

Really? I had no idea. I only knew her personal life with the Cuban, forget his name, was tumultuous.
21 posted on 02/21/2004 1:57:30 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Desi Arnaz cheated on his wife at every opportunity.
22 posted on 02/21/2004 2:10:56 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: nmh
Yes she sure was.

She was even subpoenaed to testify before HUAC in the 50's. Her FBI file and a slew of other celebrities was released a few years ago under the FOIA and are on the FBI's web-site for all to read.

FBI Electronic Reading Room
Famous Persons Listing
Lucille Ball 172 pages

And 'the Cuban' was her husband Ricky Riccardo. He wasn't a commie, but was a real womanizer.

23 posted on 02/21/2004 2:15:48 PM PST by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: MississippiMan
Good answer.
24 posted on 02/21/2004 4:03:41 PM PST by Mel Gibson (Suffer from Allergies, Asthma or Adversely Affected by Foul Air ? See "About Me")
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To: Mel Gibson
Two other reasons were the much-maligned Hayes Code and fear of the Roman Catholic Legion of Decency, Protestant Council of Churches and local leaders who were willing and able to enforce censorship statutes.

Many of the films of the 1920s were quite racy and there were complaints that they glorified prostitutes, bootleggers and the like. The final straw was the popularity of gangster pictures beginning in the early 1930s. There was legitimate concern that they glamorized gangsters so the Legion of Decency, Council of Churches and local leaders told Hollywood to clean up its act or they would launch boycotts and legal action against it. Hollywood listened.

25 posted on 02/21/2004 5:31:00 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Mel Gibson
Thanks, Mel.

MM

26 posted on 02/21/2004 6:28:11 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: joesnuffy
'When Satan was cast down to the earth....he musta first landed in Hollywood, CA and said to himself : "Home sweet home"'

Perhaps so, but he must have also had a summer home in Hope, Ark.
27 posted on 02/21/2004 6:42:48 PM PST by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: international american
Stay out of West Hollywood. At red lights, they walk up and peek at your crotch:)

"Queen" Jadis as in the character from the Narnia Chronicals by C.S.Lewis:)

It's only changed since the mid eighties in as much as it's become more crowded, with more "red lights" and harder to distinguish between male and female prostitutes. My husband and I went into the area for a book signing at 6.00pm "Hollywood Interrupted" (an expose of celebrity insanity chic)...it took 45 minutes to drive 14 miles.

28 posted on 02/21/2004 7:00:48 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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To: Condor51
I truly had no idea. I will read the links you provided. Thanks!
29 posted on 02/22/2004 5:28:07 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Condor51
What an interesting website. I scanned through it. She claimed her grandfather made her register as a Communist but she was never a member of the Communist party - weird. When you register as one, you are one.
30 posted on 02/22/2004 5:34:55 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: MississippiMan
Simply put, they want to be able to live with themselves without giving up their sin, so they find ways to convince themselves there's no such thing as sin.

An old truism:

Man: "Father, I don't believe in God any more."

Priest: "Really? What's her name?"

31 posted on 02/22/2004 5:35:15 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: international american
Yeah I was aware of that with Desi. Apparently she couldn't keep his interest sexually. It looked like one of these stormy love/hate relationships.
32 posted on 02/22/2004 5:36:08 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Mel Gibson
Why did Hollywood come to hate religion? Marx replaced God.

He answers his own question I think, quite correctly, but the answer begs another question; Why did Hollywood embrace Marxism?

Entertainers and atists have been exalted throughout history, regardless of the type of political organization. In short, unlike the rest of us, they instinctively recognize no debt to capitalism. Their success comes not so much from hard work and following a gradual upward carreer path, but sometimes through genetic providence can leap-frog to success.

33 posted on 02/22/2004 5:51:18 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Condor51; nmh
Lucille Ball also refused to abort her child and so lost a big roll in a movie (The Big Tent) for being pregnant.

She realized her husband's infidelities when he was traveling on the road with his band, and devised a TV show so they could be together. Voila, I love Luci.

Her second pregnancy was written into the tv show.

34 posted on 02/22/2004 5:58:29 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Mel Gibson
I have been to few movies in the last several years. I went to see Lord of the Rings and the sequels, Dr. Doolittle and the sequel and Saving Private Ryan. I’m basically a poor boy, and won’t waste my time or money on a movie that doesn’t appear worth watching when I see the trailers.
I received a DVD player Christmas of 2003. I periodically check out the rental stores for something to watch. I’ve used it twice - to watch Saving Private Ryan a second time and to watch an old Godzilla movie.
I guess I just can’t change with the times. I don’t find the new crop of Glamour glamorous. I don’t consider many of the current crop of award winners to be very good actors. The plots are usually trite and try to make up for lack of substance with gratuitous sex and violence. I’ve had plenty of sex and violence in my life. If I want to entertain myself with sex and violence I only have to set back and reminisce - and the plots are much better.
35 posted on 02/22/2004 6:05:36 AM PST by R. Scott (My cynicism rises with the proximity of the elections.)
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To: Mel Gibson
Why did Hollywood come to Hate Religion? >>>>>

It's easier to sell crap to folks with no values, no standards. Gotta remove religion, then $$$$ come rolling in. The lowest of creatures out in Hollywood. They give some reason for the rest of the world to disdain us.

Many Hollywood producers and owners are among America's worst enemies.

36 posted on 02/22/2004 6:11:33 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Mel Gibson
Good find!

BTTT

37 posted on 02/22/2004 6:22:05 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: Mel Gibson
Why did Hollywood come to hate religion?

Sodomite Butt-Worship conflicts with the world's religions!

38 posted on 02/22/2004 6:25:35 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Queen Jadis
so you came to my book signing? did you introduce yourself? have you read yet? am interested to hear from you.

best,
andrew
39 posted on 03/15/2004 12:26:23 AM PST by andrew
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