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RALLY REPORT - Kaloogian and Tancredo ROCK Republican Convention in California!
Howard Kaloogian for U.S. Senate ^ | 02/22/2004 | Me

Posted on 02/22/2004 11:15:39 AM PST by Impeach98

WOW!


COngressman Tom Tancredo (Left), U.S. Senate Candidate Howard Kaloogian (R) (Center), and KSFO AM 560 Talk Show Host Melanie Morgan (Right)

Yesterday's rally against giving drivers' licenses to illegal aliens (as proposed by Democrat Gil Cedillo's SB1160 which Repub. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger says he supports) was a H U G E success.

The rally planning had been going on for several weeks. It was set to take place Saturday, February 21st at the Burlingame Hyatt, where the California Republican Party Convention would be taking place.

Since Governor Schwarzenegger has said he thinks giving drivers' licenses to illegal aliens is a "fantastic" and "excellent idea" (after he made conservatives very happy by repealing an existing law by Gil Cedillo that Gray Davis had signed that did the same), the thinking was that Arnold would get the message when Republicans turned out to say "WE DON'T WANT IT - NEITHER DOES CALIFORNIA."

The location had to be changed a couple times because officials with the California Republican Party establishment were offended that Kaloogian has rallied Republicans to oppose Bush's amnesty/guest-worker plan and Schwarzenegger's "sell out" on the illegal alien drivers' license plan.

With Kaloogian's opponents for U.S. Senate uncomfortable with challenging either the Bush plan or the Schwarzenegger-backed plan (they will speak to vague policy but not these specific proposals for fear of alienating Bush or Schwarzengger and their establishment suppport), the rally united immigration reform advocates and Kaloogian campaign supporters.

A little after 10:00 AM people began gathering outside, right in front of the Hyatt Hotel. Kaloogian for Senate staffers and volunteers were handing out Kaloogian signs, bumper stickers and lapel stickers.

People were simultaneously streaming towards the Kaloogian for Senate table inside of the convention and were being directed to join the now-growing crowd outside.

At the same time, last minute preparations were taking place at a giant tented pavillion located next to the hotel's pool at the back of the hotel complex. A stage with blue-curtain backdrop and "Kaloogian for Senate" wall would serve as the dais. Approximately one-dozen Kaloogian volunteers were assisting in the set-up effort. People seeking out the rally location began arriving at this location too.

By 10:20 AM things were crazy!!! There was now a crowd of a few hundred people outside that was growing fast. More and more people were running up to the Kaloogian table inside the hotel to find out the rally location and at the poolside pavillion (site of the rally) supporters were being directed to join the crowd at the front of the hotel.

Melanie Morgan and Donald LaCombe of the Kaloogian campaign were now firing up the crowd with chants over a megaphone. There were a handful of reporters and cameras covering the mass of people out front who were shouting "Enough is Enough," "No License for Illegals," and "Stop Them at the Border."

Finally at 10:30 AM, with the crowd now a giant sea of people, completely fired up, we opened the front doors to the hotel and Melanie Morgan chanting "Enough is Enough" into a megaphone led the procession of people through the hotel, down one of the main corridors to the back of the hotel where the crowd would exit, walk the pathway towards the poolside pavillion and assemble for the rally.

A number of interesting things took place. First, the procession passed right by the press room and reporters were shocked to see this massive and boisterous gathering of people streaming through the hotel screaming and chanting. Also, liberal Republican Vice Chair of the CRP, Mario Rodriguez, was conducting a seminar teaching Repubs. how to reach out to Latino voters and was horrified to see the protest march... apparently he is unable to distinguish between the difference of "illegal" individuals and legal citizens of the United States.

The throng of people was so wide, two sets of double-doors had to be opened to allow the crowd to flow in. But then the final mass of people who had gathered in the lobby in front of the Kaloogian for Senate booth formed a third 'feeder' stream to the procession. There were so many people now marching towards the rally location in the back that people could not enter the rally tent fast enough... we had a human traffic jam and this 10 foot wide hallway that runs several hundred feet was now completely jam-packed with participants.

People contiued streaming into the giant tent and tried to squeeze in to allow as many people as possible in. But there were so many people that not everyone could fit... there were dozens of people flowing out the side entrance, straining to see over the heads of those inside, and an even larger group of people at the back end of the tent who could not get in because of the overflow crowd.

Melanie Morgan and Brian Sussman of KSFO AM 560 - San Francisco were the emcees and had the crowd fired up... it wasn't hard. The energy in the room was electrifying. They introduced Kaloogian who received a hero's welcome from the crowd.

Kaloogian was on fire and delivered one of the best speeches I've heard him give on the stump so far. And the crowd responded with passion and energy. The tent was rocking folks!!

Just as Kaloogian was finishing his remarks, we got word that Tancredo was arriving in the back entrance (having been picked up by one of our Kaloogian staffers at the SFO airport). So Kaloogian then transitioned into welcoming Congressman Tom Tancredo, a hero to our cause, just as the Congressman entered the facility.

The place exploded.

Tancredo bounded up to the stage and grabbed Kaloogian's fist. They raised their hands into the air - pumping up and down. The crowd was hooting, hollering, screaming, chanting. Melanie Morgan and Brian Sussman were up there on stage still and were themselves cheering and beaming from ear to ear. It was a moment of magic and the energy was incredible.

Now during all of this time there was this steady stream of television camera crews arriving. While we had worked the media over pretty heavily to tell them about the rally, and who would be there, they had been dismissive. They weren't interested in covering a bunch of right-wing kooks complaining about immigration policies. So at the start of the rally we only had a handful of print reporters, 4 or 5 television cameras and 2 or 3 radio reporters. But by the end of the rally news organizations, learning of what was happening, had rushed over scores of additional reporters, camera crews, and microphone-carrying radio techs and reporters.

Tancredo gave a great speech. He explained that a series of events had led to him almost not making it. Delayed flights, cancelled flights, being held up on the tarmac, having to change connecting flights and airline carrier. Everything was a mess and a mass frustration (he was supposed to arrive at 9:30 AM so we could get him settled, instead he didn't make it until about 10:55 AM).

Tancredo told this story and explained that he would go through this kind of hassle every single day between now and Election Day if this would help to elect Howard Kaloogian to the U.S. Senate.

Again, the crowd exploded.

Tancredo went on to explain during his speech that he had NOT ONE immigration reform friendly member in the U.S. Senate... and that without an ally in the Senate to join him in leading the charge on the immigration issue that we could not bring about the change in our failed policies that we need.

Tancredo was funny, gracious, passionate and simple but eloquent. At the end of his speech he again urged those in attendance to go to work to get Kaloogian elected to the Senate and announced he'd be doing all he could till Election Day to propel Kaloogian to victory. Tancredo and Kaloogian raised arms again and the crowd cheered and the camera flashbulbs flashed.

Tancredo and Kaloogian webt out back for a press conference/media avail.

Over the course of the next 45 minutes, Mike Spence, Founder of "Save Our License" (the group that collected signatures to repeal the original drivers' license for illegal aliens bill, SB60), Rick Oltman of FAIR, Ron Prince - author of Prop 187 and Proponent of Save 187 all addressed the crowd.

Crowd estimates have varied. I heard one person say 600-800 but I think this was high. Maybe 500-550.

All the press reports have said several hundred people.

Realize that there were only 1400 delegates listed for the CRP convention, so maybe 1200 were actually at the Hyatt. But while Marin and Jones could generate rallies of 50-75 people, Kaloogian had a massive crowd of cheering and raucous supporters who would then linger throughout the convention for the rest of the day - wearing Kaloogian t-shirts, carrying Kaloogian signs and bumper stickers.

It was an awesome day!



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1 posted on 02/22/2004 11:15:40 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Rally Report from American Patrol:

CLICK HERE TO READ FULL REPORT!

(Burlingame, CA) -- The semi-annual California Republican Party Convention was rocked Saturday morning by several hundred enthusiastic supporters of U.S. Senate candidate Howard Kaloogian who met for a rally against SB1160, the bill that would allow illegal aliens to get a California driver licenses.

2 posted on 02/22/2004 11:17:14 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Excerpts from Los Angeles Times on the rally:

CLICK HERE to read the full story

BURLINGAME, Calif. — An uproar over illegal immigration roiled the state Republican convention on Saturday as party leaders struggled to keep the rank and file united behind Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and President Bush.

Hundreds of GOP loyalists booed the president at a rally where U.S. Senate hopeful Howard Kaloogian and his allies denounced Bush's plan to give temporary legal status to undocumented workers.

"Enough is enough!" the crowd shouted. "Enough is enough!"

A Kaloogian supporter, Republican Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, told the crowd he knew a gynecologist who surveyed patients about the plan and found it rated "right below genital herpes."

3 posted on 02/22/2004 11:20:13 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Excellent! I was getting ready to compile my thoughts of the rally.
4 posted on 02/22/2004 11:21:23 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: Impeach98
Another Excerpt:

But immigration was the issue of passion Saturday, and Kaloogian was the candidate capturing it at his rally with Tancredo in a crowded white tent outside the convention hotel near San Francisco Airport. Next to the stage, two boys wearing Kaloogian T-shirts carried posters reading, "No Terrorist Driver's License." The signs showed a driver's license bearing a photo of Osama bin Laden. Tancredo, who flew in from Colorado for the rally, said that America had taken "rabid, overstated multiculturalism" too far.

"People are still coming across our borders with the intent to do terrible things to us," he told the cheering crowd. He called Bush's proposal "lousy, lousy policy."

Gloria Irwin, the Glenn County Republican Party chairwoman, said she agreed that Bush's plan was "terrible."

"The main street in our little town looks like Tijuana," said Irwin, whose hometown, Orland, is 100 miles north of Sacramento.

As for Schwarzenegger's stand on driver's licenses, she said, "He's going along to get along, and that's not a good thing. I wish he would get a little more backbone."

5 posted on 02/22/2004 11:22:06 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
From the Associated Press:

Saturday morning, Senate candidate Howard Kaloogian led several hundred people in a boisterous rally against illegal immigration, including proposals to grant driver's

licenses to illegal immigrants in California and President Bush's plan to give legal status to millions of undocumented workers.

"We are a nation of laws and that starts at the border. ...I don't understand how you compromise. They either have a driver's license or they don't; they are either here illegally or they are not," Kaloogian said.

While Schwarzenegger has signaled a willingness to consider ways for illegally immigrants to obtain licenses, one GOP legislative leader says he faces a tough sell.

"I think the governor will have to talk to many of us in the Republican Party for us to move on this," said Assembly Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy. "I do not see ... a bill out there that we support or a concept that we support."

6 posted on 02/22/2004 11:25:26 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
One of our guys took lots of pictures with a digital camera and I will post these later in the day (including lots of crowd shots).
7 posted on 02/22/2004 11:28:25 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
A lot of people probably just came for the rally and not part of the convention. Melanie Morgan, the mother of all recalls ;-) is a fantastic draw. Brian Sussman rocks too. Tancredo was awesome. The Vietnamese-American LEGAL immigrant minister was inspirational. Mike Spence was cool.

And last but not lease, GO KALOOGIAN GO! He'd make a fantastic Senator! :-)

Great event all the way around. "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"

I'll post my pics hopefully Monday.

BTW, I was the one with the large sign with the ILLEGAL license plate.

8 posted on 02/22/2004 11:30:10 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: Impeach98
Report from the SAacramento Bee:

Former Assemblyman Howard Kaloogian, in contrast, proclaimed himself a true conservative - provoking the most approving nods as he addressed the convention-goers, who traditionally are among the party's most right-leaning members.

"We cannot run from our base," he said during the lunchtime forum with his three rivals.

Kaloogian also said he believed that many women are "coerced into abortion."

He tried to boost his Senate bid by headlining a late-morning rally to protest resurrected legislation to give some illegal immigrants driver's licenses. Schwarzenegger persuaded lawmakers to repeal a previous law after he won office, but has said he would sign a new bill if it contained adequate security measures.

Hundreds of people gathered for the rally, some holding signs that read "No terrorist driver's license," and included a blow-up of a California driver's license with Osama bin Laden's photo on it.

9 posted on 02/22/2004 11:36:52 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Carry_Okie; Mercuria; incindiary; AnnaZ; gaijin; Bonaparte; Mediaqueen
bump dat!
10 posted on 02/22/2004 11:37:31 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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No terrorists driver's license was the best, most effective sign.

(BTW, I'm glad I didn't see a Mexifornia license...Telemuuuuuundo would have had a field day with that!)

11 posted on 02/22/2004 11:40:45 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I agree! I think a lot of the people came SEPARATE from the convention and to me that shows the ability of the Kaloogian campaign to pull off a victory in these final 8 days.

With the approving nods of the Melanie Morgans and Roger Hedgecocks and John and Kens of the world (Kaloogian was on all three again this week) and with the base constituency groups (immigration, traditional values, etc...) fired up, a low turnout primary could see Republicans flocking to the polls to vote for a candidate they are actually excited about!

12 posted on 02/22/2004 11:41:22 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98; JustPiper
wow!
13 posted on 02/22/2004 11:43:58 AM PST by chicagolady
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To: Syncro
Tim Bueller was also in attendance. He got a round of applause.
14 posted on 02/22/2004 11:44:13 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Loved the sign :)

I was the tall thin guy in the Kaloogian t-shirt at the front, who was taking notes to and from Melanie.

After the rally I thanked her profusely with hugs, a kiss on her hand and unending praise.

We've been talking about this rally for several weeks now and we are totally indebtted to her and Brian Sussman who really pushed hard to get people to turn out.

Ron Prince and his team did a great job as did CCIR - Barbara Coe's group/

A lot of organizations helped get 2-3 people here and there to go or to pass on word to their Bay Area contacts, and Morgan and Sussman kept the issue fresh in people's faces to make sure they made it a priority. It couldn't have worked out any better!

15 posted on 02/22/2004 11:45:06 AM PST by Impeach98
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16 posted on 02/22/2004 11:45:47 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Yes, that eruption for Bueler at the end was great! He and about 6 or 7 of his conservative club members stayed the weekend and were the "shock troops" of the Kaloogian campaign. They helped make sure that signs were up throughout the convention hall, and peeled off the Bill Jones stickers the Jones campaign kept putting on them!

They also helped work our booth and stickered people all weekend.

I knew things were going well when we had to STRIP the convention of every Kaloogian sign we could find after the rally when so many people flooded the Kaloogian booth that we ran out of signs. We kept bringing more and more back and they still kept running out.

Paster Kwong and Grace Fong were also huge helps with this effort... it just all went great and was the end result of a lot of hard working people giving it their all because they believe in the causes they are fighting for. I think some of the people in that campaign who are supporters of a candidate other than Kaloogian are more interested in invites to the gucci receptions... it's what separates a Kaloogian supporter from the rest of the bunch!

17 posted on 02/22/2004 11:49:36 AM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
That thuggery/vandalism would be something I'd expect from Riordan or Boxer supporters.
Juvenile.
18 posted on 02/22/2004 11:54:40 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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To: evilsmoker; NormsRevenge; TatooChick; RWGuy; DougLorenz; StoneColdGOP; dalereed; janetgreen; ...
ping! ping!
19 posted on 02/22/2004 11:58:08 AM PST by Impeach98
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"Hundreds of GOP loyalists booed the president at a rally where U.S. Senate hopeful Howard Kaloogian and his allies denounced Bush's plan to give temporary legal status to undocumented workers."

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Were there any "Kerry for President" signs there -- there might as well have been.

This attack on President Bush is disgusting. Maybe Kaloogian shouldn't be running as a Republican.

The article should have read: "Hundred PRETENDING TO BE GOP loyalists booed the President". NO REAL "GOP LOYALIST" or even any half-sensible Republican WOULD EVER BOO PRESIDENT BUSH.

20 posted on 02/22/2004 12:01:29 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Impeach98
But while Marin and Jones could generate rallies of 50-75 people, Kaloogian had a massive crowd of cheering and raucous supporters who would then linger throughout the convention for the rest of the day - wearing Kaloogian t-shirts, carrying Kaloogian signs and bumper stickers.

I got a recorded phone solicitation from Toni Casey claiming she was the only Republican candidate who is against the President's immigration proposal.

What kind of Republican pulls a dishonest stunt like that?

21 posted on 02/22/2004 12:01:59 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
In fairness to Jones' people... I don't know if it was at the directive of their actual staffers or just young kids doing something dumb on their own.

Both Marin and Jones spent a lot of time having paid staffers recruit college Republicans to come to the convention. They paid their airfare and bought them hotel rooms (although sometimes quite a few were packed into each room) and got them to do 'marching' drills, lit drops, sign duty, and sticker patrol.

Sometimes these kids freelanced and did things on their own.

What we found interesting is that these kids were there because they know in the larger battle of Republican ideals and Democrat ideals that they are with the Republicans. But they knew next to nothing about Marin or Jones.

We had Marin and Jones volunteers from the college Republicans who came to our rally and regularly would stop us during the weekend to whisper that (they didn't know much about Jones or Marin, and before this weekend had heard little about Kaloogian, but now they understood that Kaloogian speaks their language and earned their vote). We appreciated that!

22 posted on 02/22/2004 12:04:11 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: FairOpinion
Actually they booed the Bush plan and not Bush. But I am sure had you been there we would have gladly booed YOU!

So, do you think that Kaloogian manufactured people to be angry about the U.S. government sell out of sovereignty and secure borders?

Or do you suppose that MAYBE the White House deal with Vincente Fox on this amnesty proposal is WRONG and OPPOSED by a majority of Americans?

hmmmm....?

23 posted on 02/22/2004 12:06:20 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Carry_Okie
Yeah, she called 900,000 Republicans with pre-recorded messages from a guy named Gabe Joseph who runs a telemarketing firm specializing in politics.

We turned him down before he went to Casey. We tried his service during the recall effort to identify pro-recall folks to mail recall petitions to and found that most of the people who he claimed were "pro-recall" were exactly the opposite.

But that's OK, because during the recall we did a free trial run (if the idea had worked we would roll it out to the entire state, it didn't so we didn't go forward).

Casey owes Gabe big $$$ and will be unable to advertise much if any at the end of the campaign.

Our radio and TV ads start airing THIS WEEK!

24 posted on 02/22/2004 12:09:18 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
I was quoting from the article you posted:

"Hundreds of GOP loyalists booed the president at a rally "

THIS is how it appeared in the paper, which gives great aid and comfort to the Democrats.

25 posted on 02/22/2004 12:10:36 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Impeach98
"people to be angry about the U.S. government sell out of sovereignty and secure borders? "

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And Kerry will be just SOOO much better than Bush in these areas, right?
26 posted on 02/22/2004 12:12:22 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: FairOpinion
Shock - the LA Times writes a story emphasizing the division in the party and tries to rip conservatives and Republicans apart!

If they hadn't written this same story every year about the CRP convention for the past 10 years I would understand your disgust at California Republicans.

Both Tancredo and Kaloogian support Bush. That's what makes them special... they say where they agree with him, but where they think he is wrong they speak clearly and without forked tongue... they believe Bush is hurting himself, his party, and his nation with this plan and as people who agree with him on many other issues are trying to get him to wake up to the travesty that has become our nation's border control - whether from the standpoint of welfare for aliens or national security risks such as what happened with 9/11.

27 posted on 02/22/2004 12:14:28 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: FairOpinion
This attack on President Bush is disgusting. Maybe Kaloogian shouldn't be running as a Republican.

Seeing as the President swore an OATH to "preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God," and since Article IV of that document REQUIRES him to protect the states from invasion, perhaps it is Bush who is no Republican.

Were there any "Kerry for President" signs there -- there might as well have been.

Stupid hyperbole. Do you think we control the entire State electorate? If the President's proposal goes any further, he might as well write off the entire southwest. He did this to himself and knew damn well what kind of response it was going to get from his base and chose to do it anyway. Best he learn that it was a mistake and get Congress to bail him out of it before the election. We are helping him learn that.

This is supposed to be a representative government "of the people." Given that 70% of the people want illegals deported, just who the hell do you think you are telling us to kowtow just because of a rotten proposal from the President? Blind and self-destructive obeiscance isn't going to get him re-elected.

28 posted on 02/22/2004 12:14:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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To: FairOpinion
Idiot.
29 posted on 02/22/2004 12:16:41 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture ('Nuff said)
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To: Impeach98; AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; ...
This this is the PRIMARY, I already voted for Howard (via touchscreen.)
Not sure how he will do against Boxer, but ya gotta love the guy, in a Tom McClintock/Don Quixote kind of way. :o)
Click to Visit Howard's Website

www.howardforsenate.com


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30 posted on 02/22/2004 12:18:02 PM PST by RonDog
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To: FairOpinion
I appreciate your contentiousness making the Kaloogian threads more active and provocative. But if you insist on having these discussions every time, could you please read what is written in these threads.

No one here supports John Kerry, and your attempts to constantly say 'If you oppose amnesty or drivers licenses for illegal aliens you therefore support John Kerry becaus it hurts Bush' is in my opinion inane.

I suggest you focus your energies on writing to the White House and explaining to them that by PROPOSING AMNESTY for ILLEGAL ALIENS that they are (in YOUR opinion) risking the election of John Kerry.

I'm sure they'll appreciate your perspective as much as I do ;) Good luck with your missive to Karl Rove and George Bush.

31 posted on 02/22/2004 12:18:30 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Carry_Okie
"He did this to himself and knew damn well what kind of response it was going to get from his base and chose to do it anyway. Best he learn that it was a mistake and get Congress to bail him out of it before the election. We are helping him learn that. "

B R A V O !

32 posted on 02/22/2004 12:20:28 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: JustPiper; Gallegos; HiJinx; janetgreen; FITZ; gubamyster; SandRat; WRhine; joesnuffy; B4Ranch; ...
Ping.
33 posted on 02/22/2004 12:26:31 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Impeach98
What is it that all of you seem to have a problem with such a simple thing that we have a choice between A or B. You choose the best between A or B. If you destroy and don't choose A, you WILL GET B.

Only YOU can control your actions.

You vote for Bush, and rally behind Bush, or you WILL GET KERRY.

This is a very simple statement of fact.

So-called "Conservatives" are acting like spoiled children, throwing a temper tantrum, destroying the best thing that ever happened to them: the election of President Bush.

If 500 people in Florida had stayed home, we would have President Gore. Would that please you more?

Kaloogian, should focus on getting nominated for Senate, NOT on attacking President Bush.
34 posted on 02/22/2004 12:29:38 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: All
OK FReepers from AROUND the nation:

Here's the deal... if you want Tom Tancredo to have a friend in the U.S. Senate who will work with him to get our borders enforced and to fight against amnesty plans and drivers' licenses for illegal aliens, we need you to step forward NOW!

There are EIGHT days until the election and we are going up with radio and TV ads. To reach the MILLIONS of voters we need to reach we need to expand the size of our radio and tv ad campaign.

You can go online RIGHT NOW and make an immediate contribution to pay for MORE of these ads by making an online contribution.

Go To: www.HowardForSenate.com and make an online contribution!

35 posted on 02/22/2004 12:30:59 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: FairOpinion
Bush is hurting the Republican party with his amnesty proposal. Not Kaloogian. If you want to make sure all those conservatives are excited about defeating Kerry you need to get the White House to stop going against those 70% of Americans who want secured borders.

It's that simple.

36 posted on 02/22/2004 12:32:48 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Exactly correct...no one here supports John Kerry...he's for full amnisty for everybody overnight. Would be nice not to hurt Bush while trying to prop up Kaloogian who, last time I checked, is showing about 2% in the polls.
37 posted on 02/22/2004 12:34:58 PM PST by TatieBug
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To: Impeach98
Exactly correct...no one here supports John Kerry...he's for full amnisty for everybody overnight. Would be nice not to hurt Bush while trying to prop up Kaloogian who, last time I checked, is showing about 2% in the polls.
38 posted on 02/22/2004 12:35:01 PM PST by TatieBug
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To: Impeach98
reporters and cameras covering the mass of people out front who were shouting "Enough is Enough," "No License for Illegals," and "Stop Them at the Border."

ARE YOU LISTENING BUSH?

39 posted on 02/22/2004 12:36:02 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: FairOpinion
You want us to respect the political calculation that a vote against Bush is a vote for a WORSE administration.

And I agree with you.

But, you need to recognize that the same political calculation therefore needs to be respected by Bush. He can't sell out American sovereignty when the polls show that Americans are not with him - they don't want an 'amnesty on the installment plan' and they don't want taxpayer paid benefits (welfare) to go to illegal aliens and they don't want illegal aliens to be given drivers' licenses.

Kaloogian will be voting for Bush in November. Tancredo will be voting for Bush in November.

But Bush needs to stop voting against the American people if he wants to have enough votes to beat Kerry.

40 posted on 02/22/2004 12:36:45 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: FairOpinion
This attack on President Bush is disgusting. Maybe Kaloogian shouldn't be running as a Republican.

For crying out loud, don't you freaking get it? The people have HAD ENOUGH!

41 posted on 02/22/2004 12:39:02 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: FairOpinion
Kaloogian, should focus on getting nominated for Senate, NOT on attacking President Bush.

One more time!

He is not attacking President Bush! He is attacking the presidents insane anmnesty (yes it is amnesty) proposal.

Both Howard K. and Tancredo support the president in other issues.

42 posted on 02/22/2004 12:39:37 PM PST by navyblue
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To: TatieBug
Kaloogian's never been that low. He's between 5-9% in the public polls. A Jones campaign poll had him at 21% (I guess they used a different voter turnout model, recognizing that the Repub. turnout will be VERY low in the primary as all of the attention is on the Democrat Presidential Race.

The last public poll had Jones at 24%. Between 57-73% of Republican voters said they were still UNDECIDED in these polls.

This race is up for grabs.

And Kaloogian will win if his message gets out enough in TV and radio ads because the voters of the Republican party agree with Kaloogian on the issues.

It's just a question of will Kaloogian have a wide enough reach with enough frequency in his campaign advertising.

43 posted on 02/22/2004 12:40:13 PM PST by Impeach98
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navyblue said it well.

The attack is not on Bush. I wish I had the rally footage digitized (I am trying to get it from our friend Jim Chess of Sebastapol who filmed the rally for a cable TV show he has).

Howard Kaloogian, Congressman Tancredo, Prop 187 Author Ron Prince, "Save Our License" Founder Mike Spence, KSFO's Melanie Morgan and Brian Sussman, FAIR's Rick Oltman.... NOT ONE of them smeared Bush. They stuck SPECIFICALLY to the proposals that have been made that they oppose.

44 posted on 02/22/2004 12:43:19 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
Kaloogian will be voting for Bush in November. Tancredo will be voting for Bush in November.

The same scenario has developed in the Illinois Republican Primary. Republican candidates voting and supporting GWB. But on the illegal immigration front, they will oppose him.

Here is one of them.

Link to Oberweis for senate

45 posted on 02/22/2004 12:43:36 PM PST by Missouri
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To: FairOpinion
This attack on President Bush is disgusting. Maybe Kaloogian shouldn't be running as a Republican.

You know, until Bush proposed this "guest worker" legislation, I thought he walked on water. Yeah, I'll vote for him in November, but I'm really upset with him.

what I'm hoping is that the president takes a good look at his core supporters opinion about his proposal. Then I hope he reverses himself.

As for Benedict Arnold, he's a RINO. Real cute how he did a bait and switch on those drivers licenses. I like Kaloogian. I like him a heck of a lot more than Barbara Boxer...

46 posted on 02/22/2004 12:44:26 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: Impeach98
bump for later reading
47 posted on 02/22/2004 12:44:26 PM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: Impeach98; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...

"RALLY REPORT - Kaloogian and Tancredo ROCK Republican Convention in California!"

Tancredo won't be silenced ping!

48 posted on 02/22/2004 12:45:44 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Impeach98
This race is up for grabs...
From Dan Weintraub (Sacramento Bee, 2/20/04):

Marin showing life in Senate race

The Public Policy Institute of California Poll on the Republican U.S. Senate primary showed former US Treasurer Rosario Marin breaking through as the leading challenger to the establishment favorite, former Secretary of State Bill Jones.

Jones is still leading, but has only 24 percent of the support, with Marin in second at 12 percent.
Former Assemblyman Howard Kaloogian was at 5 percent with former Los Altos Hills mayor Toni Casey bringing up the rear at 2 percent.

Posted by dweintraub at 05:59 AM

49 posted on 02/22/2004 12:47:34 PM PST by RonDog
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thanks for the ping, Ron. I like Howard, and I think he'll do a great job as Senator.
50 posted on 02/22/2004 12:48:06 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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