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THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.. (It's here!!).. Live thread!
Your Right Wing Chef ^ | Feb 23 2004 | Carlo3b

Posted on 02/23/2004 4:56:38 PM PST by carlo3b

THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.. (A HIT OR A MISS?).. Live thread!

Contrary to popular media pronouncements, the first of the commercial showing of this long awaited, landmark, and controversial film has already debuted and the misconceptions that the fate of this endeavor hangs in the balance.. That is HOGWASH.. The Passion of the Christ is on the brink of a record breaking opening, in spite of the limited available screens, and the all out, and outragous efforts on the part of the National Media's near unanimous rejection, and the Hollywood establishment roadblocks to stymie this motion picture and it's brilliant and courageous director/producer..

I just receive a call from friends that attended a church sponsored midday showing of the movie with more than 850 of their fellow flock. The collective response was "it was sobering and breathtaking, and they existed with a profound feeling of moral inadequacy".

I toyed with the idea of accepting an invitation to book a private showing at a local theater for this weekend, however after calling a few local churches to help fill the seats I discovered that all (I call 12) of the parishes and neighborhood churches had already secured their own private dates with sellout crowds.. Every one of them had sold the seats within a day of their announcements... I just may book a threater in three weeks for all of my friends and family, that wish to watch it again, and again..

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Oops! Make that "intra-Christian fight"!
51 posted on 02/23/2004 5:30:11 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Lead Moderator
My comment was posted to use absurdity to expose absurdity - and I refuse to use that "slash sarcasm" thingy, because it defeats the purpose of sarcasm.

As you were.

52 posted on 02/23/2004 5:30:25 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: HairOfTheDog
Evidently it is a sin to disagree with the diefication of Mary around here. Guess the lead moderator is a Roman Catholic. The offending poster pointed out that dollars from this film would go to build Mel's private church and good Protestants might not wish to do that given our age old disagreements with Rome and the Pope.
53 posted on 02/23/2004 5:31:05 PM PST by mercy
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I winced at the Catholic-bashing in the removed posts.

LOL - you should seen MY post!

54 posted on 02/23/2004 5:31:21 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: carlo3b
I just spoke with 3 members of my Church. We are going to buy a whole showing maybe in a couple of weeks on Sunday afternoonl. Two churches where I live have bought out the theater for the first two days. Bring popcorn and a friend (preferably someone who NEEDS to here the message).
55 posted on 02/23/2004 5:31:40 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Senator Pardek
Send it to me in FRmail! :)
56 posted on 02/23/2004 5:31:49 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: formerDem; MasterCommie_hunter
Well said about saying a Rosary for "MC-H."

Christ preached, "Love thy neighbor...." I do, but I'm having a "little" trouble with loving "MC-H."

57 posted on 02/23/2004 5:32:20 PM PST by GOPologist
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To: NYC GOP Chick
As someone with no dog in this inter-Christian fight

I have a dog you can borrow.. a miniature Doxy named Zeke.. He will stand with us, and fight like.. well a NYC GOP Chick if need be.. :)

58 posted on 02/23/2004 5:32:52 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: mercy
No, it was the manner in which he pointed it out -- and the fact that he did so in a thread that wasn't the right place for it, IMO.
59 posted on 02/23/2004 5:33:09 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: mercy
****Totally uncalled for on your part. Religious freedom is allowed here I think.****

Boy was I wrong.

I did not know FR was a Roman Catholic site. Sheesh ..... all these years.
60 posted on 02/23/2004 5:33:27 PM PST by mercy
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To: carlo3b
What's a Doxy? And will he have enough room to run around in my admittedly small loft?
61 posted on 02/23/2004 5:33:42 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: anniegetyourgun
Feeling of moral inadequacy? Yes, I think that's the only way we can feel in light of the standard God has set - perfection. Since none can attain that, we are left to put on the robe of righteousness that Jesus takes off his back to place on us....if we will just accept that free offer.

And that is what one would call "hitting the mark." :o)

62 posted on 02/23/2004 5:34:10 PM PST by Ladysmith
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To: mercy
Thank you mercy!
63 posted on 02/23/2004 5:35:13 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: mercy
Not sure why the diefication of Mary is/was an issue in review of this film, nor did I know that boycotting Catholics who do Christian movies would be a popular idea with anyone here.

Jeepers what a carnival.

64 posted on 02/23/2004 5:37:48 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: carlo3b
I have waited a lifetime to stick it in the Hollywood elitist eye.. Join me in this labor of love.. POPCORN anyone..:)

1 posted on 02/23/2004 6:56:39 PM CST by carlo3b

Sir,

With all due repect, this is NOT a movie to view with popcorn. This is an accurate depiction of the crucifixion of our Savior Jesus Christ. It should repulse you, you should weep and wail at the penalty Jesus paid for you and me. We deserved all the humiliation and pain that He received. This movie is to be experienced, but it is not entertainment. Then meditate on the love of God, REJOICE in His perfect plan of salvation for all who believe.
John 3:16 clearly explains why Jesus died.
65 posted on 02/23/2004 5:38:23 PM PST by Knute
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To: carlo3b
Got 4 for the 5 o'clock on Wednesday, and I hope the Mods will keep this one as THE live thread.

Love you, man. And, maybe you can toss in some yummy Lenten recipes for those who try to fast for Lent.

66 posted on 02/23/2004 5:38:24 PM PST by don-o
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To: carlo3b
Got 4 for the 5 o'clock on Wednesday, and I hope the Mods will keep this one as THE live thread.

Love you, man. And, maybe you can toss in some yummy Lenten recipes for those who try to fast for Lent.

67 posted on 02/23/2004 5:38:24 PM PST by don-o
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To: Clintons a commie
My Protestant preacher is going on Wednesday and he is preaching a series on the movie. He is very excited about the movie. I think most Protestants are excited about the movie.

It's time Christians work together for things that we all believe.

68 posted on 02/23/2004 5:40:15 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: carlo3b
MSNBC expert just said it would probably only make 30 million and then fall off the charts. Anyone want to bet?
69 posted on 02/23/2004 5:40:44 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: carlo3b
Our congregation bought our tickets last week for this Saturday. May the movies that follow appear with a new clarity - may we see them for the cheap wastes of time they are. May Hollywood become a financial wasteland to match it's current moral capacities.
70 posted on 02/23/2004 5:40:54 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: carlo3b
Thanks.
71 posted on 02/23/2004 5:41:19 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Atlantas' Northside UMC is at Parkway Pt. seeing it NOW...Sold out.
72 posted on 02/23/2004 5:42:11 PM PST by Broker (another VET)
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To: mercy
Here's a thought: Chill out.
73 posted on 02/23/2004 5:42:12 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: mercy
I don;t think a questioning of Catholic religious practices had anything to do with post #12 being pulled. the poster had some very valid questions. it was the uncalled for out and out sliming of Mel gibson and his church that got the thread pulled.

The two things are different, there have been some spirited discussions about Mary and catholic views on many other threads that have stayed up. But to attack Mel and wish that his church is destroyed goes beyond the pale.

I myself, was raised Presbyterian and am now Southern Baptist. Personally, I have many questions about Catholicism and I disagree with much of their traditions and practices; but I am going to see this movie because no matter the differences in our Churches, we all believe the same thing -- The Lord Jesus Christ died up on the cross so that we may have life everlasting.

74 posted on 02/23/2004 5:43:20 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: PRND21
brokenness and humility BEFORE THE LORD is very good.

Often it's very good before man.
75 posted on 02/23/2004 5:43:31 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: mercy
Well I'm here...and I am very willing to discuss Catholic or Protestant(Baptist) doctrine with anyone. BUT, it would be off topic and take away from Carlo's thread.
76 posted on 02/23/2004 5:44:04 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: 2nd Amendment
MSNBC expert just said it would probably only make 30 million and then fall off the charts. Anyone want to bet?

Hmmm considering that they said today that Pre-sales have already topped 8 MILLION (at an ave of $7 a pop) I would say MSNBC is a bunch of idiots. 8 Million X $7 is $56 MILLION and the movie hasn't even opened yet!

77 posted on 02/23/2004 5:45:30 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: netmilsmom
Mel is on next
78 posted on 02/23/2004 5:45:59 PM PST by mylife
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To: carlo3b
....the National Media's near unanimous rejection....

FWIW, current tally on rottentomatoes.com is 5 positive reviews ("fresh") and 3 negative reviews ("rotten"). Among major newspaper reviews it is 3 positive and 3 negative.

79 posted on 02/23/2004 5:46:23 PM PST by Faraday
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To: don-o
Love you, man. And, maybe you can toss in some yummy Lenten recipes for those who try to fast for Lent.

LOL!

80 posted on 02/23/2004 5:46:39 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: mercy
and good Protestants might not wish to do that given our age old disagreements with Rome and the Pope.

Then how about start your own thread, and stop trying to hijack threads with the same old same old tired old canards?

What is a new point y'all wish to make, beyond the RC Church is the "Whore of Babylon"

You know what I mean.

Go away, please.

And don-o is not a Roman Catholic.

81 posted on 02/23/2004 5:47:23 PM PST by don-o
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To: Knute
Most people eat popcorn at movies. He's just asking if anyone wants to see the movie with him. I do.

As it will be dinner time when I'm seeing the movie, I'll be buying some to eat. It will be hard to see, and surely the weight of the movie is serious. However, I'm sure I'll be able to handle eating and crying at the same time.

It doesn't mean that I (or anyone else that eats or drinks during this movie) takes it less serious.




82 posted on 02/23/2004 5:48:25 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Knute
Most people eat popcorn at movies. He's just asking if anyone wants to see the movie with him. I do.

As it will be dinner time when I'm seeing the movie, I'll be buying some to eat. It will be hard to see, and surely the weight of the movie is serious. However, I'm sure I'll be able to handle eating and crying at the same time.

It doesn't mean that I (or anyone else that eats or drinks during this movie) takes it less serious.




83 posted on 02/23/2004 5:48:25 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: tiamat
My thoughts exactly. As much as I love a tub of popcorn I think I'll pass. I was thinking the theater owers will at some point mention that concession sales are the lowest ever for a movie. Just not the kind of movie people will feel confortable muching. But then again, the rude moviegoers I have witnessed the last few years I may be wrong.
84 posted on 02/23/2004 5:49:39 PM PST by TonyM
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To: I got the rope
LOL!

Not a joke.

We Orthodox try to fast seriously. No meat or dairy for 40 or sometimes more days. I know that carlo has some help.

85 posted on 02/23/2004 5:50:02 PM PST by don-o
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To: carlo3b
We purchased advance tickets online from our local theater.

Right outside the theater they have a nifty machine where we just slide in our credit card and the tickets will pop out, so no lines for us.

First showing is Wednesday, here, our tickets are for the 7:15 showing.
86 posted on 02/23/2004 5:53:58 PM PST by dawn53
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To: commish
we all believe the same thing -- The Lord Jesus Christ died up on the cross so that we may have life everlasting.

Badda-ping!

Nicely put.

87 posted on 02/23/2004 5:54:22 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Knute; carlo3b
With all due repect, this is NOT a movie to view with popcorn.

True, however the Movie Theaters make nearly all their money on concessions and literally no money on the movie. So if nobody buys popcorn or cokes, then the theaters will be hesitant to show pictures like this again in the future.

So buy some popcorn and some candy and some cokes. Support the theaters that are courageous enough to show this film. Heck, don't eat the popcorn, give it to the guy behind you in line. Show a little christian charity. Or if you really feel generous, buy a pair of tickets for the guy behind you in line.

88 posted on 02/23/2004 5:54:36 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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To: luckystarmom
It's time Christians work together for things that we all believe.

Amen to that!

89 posted on 02/23/2004 5:54:55 PM PST by Clintons a commie
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To: carlo3b
Hi sweetie, bump.
90 posted on 02/23/2004 5:55:15 PM PST by Soaring Feather (~ I do Poetry and party among the stars~)
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To: carlo3b
I think I'm in trouble - I gave up movies for Lent :)
91 posted on 02/23/2004 5:55:34 PM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Making hasenfeffer out of bunnyrabbits since 1980)
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To: carlo3b
I have waited a lifetime to stick it in the Hollywood elitist eye.. Join me in this labor of love.. POPCORN anyone..:)

You and me both!! God bless you Carlo for starting this thread. I have tears in my eyes writing this. This is a great opportunity for FReepers to come together in fellowship.

92 posted on 02/23/2004 5:56:14 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: mylife
Sorry Mel is on a "preview" of the interview for tomorrow in a moment, pn Oriellys show
93 posted on 02/23/2004 5:56:40 PM PST by mylife
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To: carlo3b
I also have waited a long time for this. I bought 12 tickets for me and my family. We will be seeing it on Friday. By the way, just called for 2 more tickets and they were sold out.
Thank you Mel Gibson for having the courage to put the greatest story ever told in front of this nation that is slowly losing the morals and principles taught to us by Jesus.

And thank you Jesus for Your sacrifice, may it move many who do not know You to seek You out. They will never regret it.
94 posted on 02/23/2004 5:56:52 PM PST by rep-always
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To: carlo3b
With any luck I'll be going to see this movie more than once.
95 posted on 02/23/2004 5:57:35 PM PST by Tempest (Sigh.. ....)
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To: luckystarmom
Good point.

Being pregnant, I seriously have to munch on several small snacks/meals during the day to avoid queasiness and heartburn from larger meals.

I might buy some popcorn, I might not, but I will not be called rude because I am taking care of the dietary needs of myself and my unborn child.

96 posted on 02/23/2004 5:57:39 PM PST by Okies love Dubya 2 (Mommy to little ones 5.5, 17 mos, and little girl(?) due 6/20/04)
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To: mercy
Roman Catholics are not your enemy friend. You would do better to direct your animus at the secular humanists whose gospel is moral relativism.

After all, it is a Roman Catholic who has put the Lord Jesus Christ front and center in the minds of all Americans.

And one other thing, RC's do not think that Mary, the Mother of the Lord Jesus, is a deity. It shows a profound misunderstanding of RC doctrine and tradition to claim such a thing.

97 posted on 02/23/2004 6:00:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: mylife
Not only is Mel on O'rielly tomorrow night but the PAX Special "The Making of The Passion of the Christ" will be Rebroadcast on PAX Network Tomorrow (Tuesday) at 7 PM ET.

The Making was an awesome show, with great interviews of Mel and cast, and a lot of insight into the movie. Not to mention a boatload of scenes that will give you a feel for what you are about to experience.

Mel, could not have picked better actors. it is almost as if they had been predestined for the roles. Jim Caviezal is amazing, Miai Morgenstern is Mary exactly as I would have pictured her, and Satan is pure evil in looks and movement (creepy). And what can one say about Monica Bellucci as Mary Magdelene...sighhhhh. Oh sorry, where was I?

98 posted on 02/23/2004 6:02:21 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Okies love Dubya 2
Congratulations on your growing family. I hope I did not imply that people who choose to snack during the movie are being rude. I was passing along an observation made by a friend who attended a preview at Willow Creek a few weeks ago. In our Christian liberty we have the freedom to eat or not to eat!
99 posted on 02/23/2004 6:03:16 PM PST by Knute
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To: TonyM
I figure we will be lucky if they turn their cell-phones off!

that's MY pet-peeve!
100 posted on 02/23/2004 6:04:10 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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