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To: Once-Ler

"For me Huntington's article was more of what I've previously read and dismissed. His incomplete research is biased, and his conclusions are flawed."

Sez you. You'll have to forgive me for sticking with the redoubtable Huntington, and others like Toynbee, who understand how cultures are destroyed.

I'm glad the majority of American people seem to understand the inane simplism of this "we-are-a-nation-of-immigrants" argument. And that degree of clarity will only improve as this crisis escalates.


87 posted on 05/08/2006 10:46:49 AM PDT by Nevski
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To: Nevski
Sez you.

Well, it's hard to argue with that.

You'll have to forgive me for sticking with the redoubtable Huntington, and others like Toynbee, who understand how cultures are destroyed.

OK, you're forgiven. I prefer the optimism of Bush and Reagan, who understand cultures need people to thrive. Huntington looks at America as something precious, and in need of protection, that only Americans should enjoy. I see America as a beacon of hope. A shining city on the hill and God's gift to the world.

I'm glad the majority of American people seem to understand the inane simplism of this "we-are-a-nation-of-immigrants" argument. And that degree of clarity will only improve as this crisis escalates.

Thank you Nostradamus. Do you mean the crisis of illegals coming to America to do grunt work for grunt pay? That crisis that has been happening since 1776. We are a nation of immigrants. It's simple because it is true. For me the issue is American impotence and abortion are reducing our population. Immigration is necessary to ensure our continued growth. If you take out the illegal immigration our nation shrunk in population last year, and the year before. It would be difficult to grow the economy with fewer workers. I think it will be much harder to do with 12 million illegals deported. Suggesting it, in a time of baby boomer retirements and a War on Terror, seems positively suicidal, but perhaps I just have a simplistic world view.

If immigration was really an important issue it wouldn't have been ignored by every President and Congress for 40 years. It is getting played up by the news media because it splits the base which gets hooked every time. Conventional wisdom is the Congress won't even finalize a bill by elections. I think a compromise tough security/guest worker law could be passed. I'm optimistic about Nov regardless of what happens on the issue.

Here's my prediction : If immigration reform doesn't pass before the elections, no viable presidential candidate will emerge and lead the charge to deport the American born children of illegal janitors, auto mechanics, burger flippers, car washers, nannies, painters, and gardeners...even if it is such a popular view with "conservatives" who promise sit out elections or vote for parties that can't win. Yeah, The world does revolve around them. Maybe Buchanan and Foster can run again.

Thank you so much for taking the time to let me know that you like Huntington and not me. I'm happy you believe people are finally coming around to your way of thinking, and nice job backing up your opinion with nothing. It's a great debating technique that screams self-adoration. It sends the message that your views should be accepted because you say so.

88 posted on 05/09/2006 1:40:13 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Beware conservatives whose political consistency dictates all Presidents must be impeached.)
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