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It’s Okay For a Cop (the New Key West Police Chief) To Have sex With a Minor (17 yr old boy)
Key West The Newspaper ~ Journalism as a Contact Sport ^
| February 27, 2004
| Dennis Reeves Cooper
Posted on 03/04/2004 12:01:23 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
The link doesn't show the article...
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posted on
03/04/2004 2:17:02 PM PST
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
To: GOPologist
more art colony than homo colony. Actually Key west itself is being corpratized. The big chains are buying out the small shops. The little bars like sloppy joes and hogs breath are corporate.
Besides it cant go too "fee fee" then none of the regular events will go back. (for example the Key West Poker Run in Sept. (aka key west MC Raly))
Remeber its a key not an island. It is too small to get lost on.
To: Elle Bee
Well! They have their "rights!" Now one can see what they do with those "rights."
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posted on
03/04/2004 6:34:58 PM PST
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(Further, the statement assumed)
To: Elle Bee
Only if the 17year old is complaining that he was abused.
Otherwise what would the legal case be?
Is this a confession? Where is the proof? This chief got away with a crime.
To: Imal
This is Key West we're talking about. like so much else down here not everything works
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posted on
03/04/2004 8:36:52 PM PST
by
Elle Bee
To: longtermmemmory
Only if the 17year old is complaining that he was abused. Otherwise what would the legal case be? Is this a confession? Where is the proof? This chief got away with a crime.when you are under the age of consent ...... there can be no concent ... just felony
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posted on
03/04/2004 8:39:47 PM PST
by
Elle Bee
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Well! They have their "rights!" Now one can see what they do with those "rights." or whom they 'do'
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posted on
03/04/2004 8:42:59 PM PST
by
Elle Bee
To: Elle Bee
age of consent in FL (unfortunatly) is 16. Above that it is contributing to the delingquency to a minor.
I think the age of consent must be raised to 18 across the USA.
That would make most homosexual first encounters a criminal act.
To: Warlord David
There's two examples in the story of men havinf sex with 17 year old girls. I guess those homosexuals held a gun to the men's head and made them do it so they wouldn't look so bad.
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posted on
03/06/2004 10:03:12 AM PST
by
breakem
To: longtermmemmory
and most heterosexual ones for that matter.
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posted on
03/06/2004 10:04:01 AM PST
by
breakem
To: longtermmemmory
"Your brain is your friend".
Consider using it before posting.
For whatever reasons, still being debated in the medical fields, females are maturing far earlier than they once did. "Once did", as in the period when age of consent laws were written.
Whether we like it or not, and you cn verify this by visiting any 9 th graed class, society is dealing with sexually functional adults years earlier than when the age of consent laws were written.
Recent raises in the age of consent did little more than offer irristable opportunities for arbitrary and capricious enforcement of the age of consent laws.
The reality is that if the parents didn't teach their children to wait for sex in a stable marriage relationship, anything the heavy hand of John Law can do is unlikely to remedy the aforementioned parential failure.
Criminalizing sex as you suggest would only result in egregiously unfair, capricious enforcement. We simply don't have the court capacity, nor the jails, to imprision all that you propose to make criminals. Why are you so eager to grow the already bloated legal/prison system?
There is a limit to what government can do. Raising moral children isn't one of them. And jailing a large part of America's under 18 set is likewise beyond the reach of government.
As Washington observed, never issue an order that you can't enforce.
Personally, I am fed up with whining adults wanting to force government to do things which are not the appropriate role of government. Families, not governments, teach moral behavior.
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posted on
03/06/2004 11:42:06 AM PST
by
GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
To: GladesGuru
actually what I am looking for is clarity in criminal prosecutions. Right now it is far too ambiguous for prosecution of adults who have sex with minors who are close to majority.
Which is why you get statuory rape at below 16 and contributing to delinquency at 16-17. An adult should not be having sex with a 16 year old.
I am no looking at it from the point of controlling the children. The ADULTS are the responsible ones, the children are CHILDREN.
There is one judge in central FL who ruled that statutory rape charges had to be thrown out because if a girl could consent to an abortion, she can consent to getting pregnant.
It is not the children who go to jail, it is the adults who should not be having sex with the minors. Jail is not always required. Sex with a minor makes the adult have to register as a sex offender under FL Law.
You should be less petty when posting.
To: longtermmemmory
"The ADULTS are the responsible ones, the children are CHILDREN."
I beg to differ with both statements. Tostart with teh adults, to assume responsible behavior is often a stretch, especially when sex is involved.
Secondly, to assume that the under 16 aged female is a child is likewise a stretch. Often, as those who have to deal with children realize, they really are adults who matured earlier than the laws recognized, earlier than society has a mechanism to cope with, ect.
But they are most assuredly not children except to those who profit from such classifications; social workers, counselors, an assortment of lawyers, all too many agencies, etc.
I used the "Your brain is your friend" as a jest, which I thought was apparent. My apologies if it came across as anything else. While I often have differences of opinion with others on this forum, I am generally impresed with the level of intelligence of the FReepers, the sheer level of data they have available, and the willingness with which they share their knowledge.
My use of "generally impressed" is due to a slight reservation which I meant to apply to the ocasional un-zotted troll which I have encountered.
Though I must admit that the troll arguments do seem to be limited - reality does impose stringent limits on a troll's position and arguement.
Poor trolls. sarcasm off>/
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posted on
03/06/2004 7:19:05 PM PST
by
GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
To: GladesGuru
Your comments are disgusting. A prime example of "Situational Ethics". The police chief was wrong wrong wrong. Nothing, including consensual admission from the 17 year old boy, makes it right. I am willing to bet you are a card carrying member of NAMBLA.
If laws existed and/or enforced based on societies ability to punish the criminals, then mass revolt of any law would render it impotent.
To: Elle Bee
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posted on
08/11/2012 10:59:31 AM PDT
by
Elle Bee
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