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Kerry Met With Viet Cong And North Vietnamese In Paris In 1971
Congressional Record ^ | March 6, 2004 | John F. Kerry

Posted on 03/06/2004 12:21:15 AM PST by Hon

A couple of weeks ago I posted this thread about a photograph that I wound in a book about Kerry's group, the Vietnam Veterans Against The War:

Kerry's Group Met With The Viet Cong In Paris In 1971

The Vietnam Veterans Against The War (VVAW) sent their own delegation to Paris to meet with the representatives of the National Liberation Front (AKA Viet Cong) in 1971. At this time John Kerry was their spokesman and defacto leader.

This photograph is from the book "The Winter Soldiers", by Richard Stacewicz, page 284:

Caption: First peace meeting between VVAW and the NLF, Paris, 1971.

Since Stacewicz did not mention whether Kerry had attended this meeting and I did not see it mentioned anywhere else, I assumed he did not attend go on this trip.

I was wrong. Kerry did go to Paris. He did talk with the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese. In fact, he was quite proud about it. For it was the first thing that he brought up once he was done with his speech before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 22, 1971:

LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS RELATING TO THE WAR IN SOUTHEAST ASIA

THURSDAY, APRIL 22, 1971

UNITED STATES SENATE;
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,
Washington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:05 a.m., in Room 4221, New Senate Office Building, Senator J. W. Fulbright (Chairman) presiding.

Present: Senators Fulbright, Symington, Pell, Aiken, Case, and Javits.

Thank you. [Applause]

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Kerry, it is quite evident from that demonstration that you are speaking not only for yourself but for all your associates, as you properly said in the beginning.

COMMENDATION OF WITNESS

You said you wished to communicate. I can't imagine anyone communicating more eloquently than you did. I think it is extremely helpful and beneficial to the committee and the country to have you make such a statement.

You said you had been awake all night. I can see that you spent that time very well indeed. [Laughter.]

Perhaps that was the better part, better that you should be awake than otherwise.

PROPOSALS BEFORE COMMITTEES

You have said that the question before this committee and the Congress is really how to end the war. The resolutions about which we have been hearing testimony during the past several days, the sponsors of which are some members of this committee, are seeking the most practical way that we can find and, I believe, to do it at the earliest opportunity that we can. That is the purpose of these hearings and that is why you were brought here.

You have been very eloquent about the reasons why we should proceed as quickly as possible. Are you familiar With some of the proposals before this committee?

Mr. KERRY. Yes, I am, Senator.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you support or do you have any particular views about any one of them you wish to give the committee?

Mr. KERRY. My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.

I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that.

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KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; france; hanoijohn; kerry; kerryparis; paris; treason; unfit; vietgate; vietnam
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To: Lion Den Dan
I don't see him in the pic..where do u see him?
41 posted on 03/06/2004 2:55:41 AM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: nopardons; Hon
He's worse than Clinton

Yea .. but I'll bet Jimmy Carter is proud of him

Good Grief the man scares me

42 posted on 03/06/2004 3:07:33 AM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Lion Den Dan
I don't see him either. All I see is maybe Beach Boy Brian Wilson in the middle, and maybe a pic of Alfred E. Newman on the wall. Wait a minute, that furrowed, unBotoxed brow on the left, second from the bottom looks familiar ...
43 posted on 03/06/2004 3:15:29 AM PST by omniscient
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To: Hon
Bump
44 posted on 03/06/2004 3:52:25 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Hon
This may have been covered elsewhere but wasn't Kerry still a member of our armed forces when whe went to Paris to convort with our enemy?

Surely, this is/was against the law.

45 posted on 03/06/2004 4:15:15 AM PST by Seeking the truth (Some oldies/newbies are really full of themselves, aren't they?)
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To: Hon
This may have been covered elsewhere but wasn't Kerry still a member of our armed forces when whe went to Paris to convort with our enemy?

Surely, this is/was against the law.

46 posted on 03/06/2004 4:29:20 AM PST by Seeking the truth (Some oldies/newbies are really full of themselves, aren't they?)
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To: Hon
In the Traitor-To-His-Country department, Kerry is beginning to make Clinton look patriotic.
47 posted on 03/06/2004 5:27:46 AM PST by Publius Maximus (Compassionate Conservatism: Profligate Liberal Spending With A Conservative Rhetorical Twist)
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To: Hon
"A lot of guys, 60, 80 percent stay stoned 24 hours a day just to get through the Vietnam"... "a lot of guys?" well that could be ten, twenty or eight...I mean Kerry was in country all of four months? hello?...Hundreds of thousands of guys were in Viet Nam at one time. I can't speak for the other services but I can speak for the grunts in the Marine Corps. And we all know that drugs were everywhere in Viet Nam but in the grunt units I can say that unequivocally we did not tolerate drugs in the bush. Our lives depended on each other and we could not and would not allow someone on drugs with the unit. They would be on the next chopper out. Semper Fi, Kelly
48 posted on 03/06/2004 5:28:02 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi "KERRY IS A LYING TRAITOR!")
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To: kellynla
"I can't speak for the other services but I can speak for the grunts in the Marine Corps."

I bet you Marines never had to film reenactments of your gun fights either.

There something about this whole thing to be thinking so far in advance to film reenactments and still continue to replay them.
49 posted on 03/06/2004 5:32:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Hon; All
BTW thank you Hon for posting this article and keeping this issue on the front burner. Kerry should have never been allowed to spread those vile lies in 1971 about the American GI's in Viet Nam. I walked point for the 1st Battalion, 5th Marines in 1969 and 1970 and I had access to Marine Corps intelligence during those years and I can tell you unequivocally that there were no "mass atrocities" or drugs allowed in the bush in Marine Corps grunts units. PERIOD! Kerry is a bald faced liar and scandalous traitor! And that's the bottom line. Kerry should have been investigated, indicted, tried and probably convicted of TREASON! Semper Fi, Kelly
50 posted on 03/06/2004 5:35:39 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi "KERRY IS A LYING TRAITOR!")
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To: Seeking the truth; Hon
This thread is powerful. I feel a little sick to my stomach that this man would get the Democratic nomination.

This may have been covered elsewhere but wasn't Kerry still a member of our armed forces when whe went to Paris to convort with our enemy? Surely, this is/was against the law.

I think "Seeking the truth" has a good question. There is something in Kerry's military records that he is hiding. Supposedly, Admiral Zumwalt was very negative on Kerry. Does anyone have Kerry's dates of service handy?

51 posted on 03/06/2004 5:37:54 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Hon
Great find. It confirms what we expected when we learned that the VVAW met with the NV and VC in Paris, as did Fonda. Kerry has an extensive public record, which should prove to be a gold mine in terms of campaign material.

Hopefully, the GOP will develop a coordinated strategy to use this material to the best effect. Kerry hasn't even been nominated yet, so I believe it would be wise to wait until Kerry is nominated before launching into a real attack mode. Again, thanks for a great find.

52 posted on 03/06/2004 5:41:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: Just mythoughts
"I bet you Marines never had to film reenactments of your gun fights either?" I am sorry but I don't understand. "film reenactments?" Where I was we were lucky to have something to eat. We certainly didn't have any motion picture equipment. LOL You have to understand that I spent 95 percent of my time in the bush fighting the enemy and trying to survive.
53 posted on 03/06/2004 5:44:32 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi "KERRY IS A LYING TRAITOR!")
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To: kellynla
Apparently JFKerry had to foresight to get himself a movie camera and filmed reenactments of his gun fights while there.

He has since played and replayed these films over and over and over again. Apparently this was one of his favorite things to do on dates since returning to civilization.

Since his war days are the only thing he will talk about himself in this campaign, he must still be replaying those films in his free time.
54 posted on 03/06/2004 5:49:15 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Hon
For later.
55 posted on 03/06/2004 5:49:59 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Hon
This man is running for President of the country based on his military service, yet we are not allowed to see his military records.

Thank you for starting this thread and making us aware of Kerry's traitorous actions.
56 posted on 03/06/2004 5:50:03 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Just mythoughts
Well "filming reenactments" is certainly foreign to Marine Corps grunts in the bush. Like I said, we were there to fight the enemy and try to stay alive. And we were lucky if we had food and water while we were in the bush. Semper Fi, Kelly
57 posted on 03/06/2004 5:54:56 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi "KERRY IS A LYING TRAITOR!")
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE
ping
58 posted on 03/06/2004 5:57:49 AM PST by zip
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To: kellynla
"Well "filming reenactments" is certainly foreign to Marine Corps grunts in the bush. Like I said, we were there to fight the enemy and try to stay alive. And we were lucky if we had food and water while we were in the bush. Semper Fi, Kelly"

Yes sir, indeed it is foreign. By the way thank you for you service.

This whole picture of JFKerry even at this time of his life, to have the foresight (lack of a better word) to film reenactments is quite telling of the "kind" of mind this person has.

Not only to film reenactments of his gun fights, which apparently the Brinkley book refers to but all the writings of JFKerry over this very short time frame calls to mind others and their vast writings.

This "picture" into the mind of JFKerry is ????? mental, again for the lack of a better word. The shrink list of words are endless for what kind of mind is at work here.
59 posted on 03/06/2004 6:01:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Hon
It seems Kerry is the perfect successor to Clinton in the Oval Office. Both were active in undermining the Uninted States war effort and our troops in Vietnam, and both met the enemy in foreign capitols.

People like them are precisely the reason we LOST the war. If anything, justice is long overdue.

Traitors, both!

60 posted on 03/06/2004 6:03:51 AM PST by Gritty ("Kerry says challenging his record is challenging his patriotism. He's right. His record does!)
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