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Animals into the ark two by two? Not if you believe the BBC
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 03/07/04 | Chris Hastings

Posted on 03/06/2004 4:50:17 PM PST by Pokey78

The Biblical story of Noah's ark is a "great myth", devoid of any scientific or historical credibility according to a new BBC programme about the great flood.

Noah's Ark, which has been produced by the Corporation's religion and ethics division, argues that there is no evidence to support the idea of an ark, a global flood or even a man called Noah. It claims that the story in the Book of Genesis was a fabrication inspired by the story of King Gilgamesh, who was caught up in a flood while trying to transport his own livestock.

Gilgamesh, who was King of Uruk in Babylonia in around 2,700 BC, had a shaved head and wore make up as well as a kilt. He bore no resemblance to the traditional image of Noah as displayed in countless paintings.

He and his family were stranded at sea when a freak flood swept them from the river they were in. Unable to drink seawater they stayed alive by drinking the beer that they were transporting.

Jeremy Bowen, the programme's presenter, tells viewers: "It is time to forget the original story and start again. The traditional notion of the Noah story does not pass any sort of rational or historical test. Maybe it was not meant to, maybe it was made up."

In the programme, Bowen interviews a number of scientists and historians who dismiss the idea that the world was engulfed by a global flood. They say that there is not enough water in all of the world's oceans to support a torrent of such proportions. Bowen further concludes that even 40 days and nights of continuous rain would not have produced enough water.

Recent claims that the flooding could have been caused by a comet bursting onto the earth's surface are also dismissed.

Bowen and his team also contradict traditional notions about the ark itself, saying that such a huge ship - two thirds the size of the Titanic - would have not been possible with the level of technology available at the time. Loading so many animals onto a single vessel would have taken 35 years, it claims.

They conclude that the Noah story was invented by Jewish scribes who embellished the story of Gilgamesh to evoke an all powerful and vengeful God.

Noah's Ark will be shown on BBC1 on Sunday March 21 at 7.00pm.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 03/06/2004 4:50:17 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
It's a great fantasy.
2 posted on 03/06/2004 4:52:18 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Soros is the enemy.)
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To: Pokey78
there is not enough water in all of the world's oceans to support a torrent of such proportions.

And of course there is no God to make all of this happen.

3 posted on 03/06/2004 4:52:32 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Pokey78
I think recent events have shown that the Beeb is 'a "great myth", devoid of any scientific or historical credibility'.
4 posted on 03/06/2004 4:56:01 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant (Stoic about asteroids)
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To: Pokey78
I love how they say Genesis stuff was a "myth" and go on to say "but here's how it really happened."
5 posted on 03/06/2004 4:57:51 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Pokey78
"[T]hey stayed alive by drinking the beer that they were transporting."

My kind of people! And is it true that Gilgamesh is a historical, rather than mythical, person? That I did not know.
6 posted on 03/06/2004 4:58:16 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Pokey78
I read about a "flood story" told and celebrated by the Mandan Indians of North Dakota! The following link takes yoy to a site with a plethora of flood stories.

Floods Around the World!

7 posted on 03/06/2004 4:58:21 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Pokey78
Unable to drink seawater . . .

Liberals are so stupid. It was raining. And rain water is drinkable.

8 posted on 03/06/2004 5:05:46 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Pokey78
From BBC.co.uk:

Noah's Ark
BBC One
Sunday 21st March, 7.00 - 8.00pm




According to the Bible, Noah was a holy man who saved humankind on a wooden ark two thirds the size of the Titanic.

Throughout the world, children are familiar with this well-loved tale of animals loaded onto an ark, two-by-two, before a giant flood destroys life on earth. But is there any truth to this incredible story?

In Noah's Ark, Jeremy Bowen searches through ancient history for traces of the life and times of the man who inspired the story. Using state-of-the-art computer generated graphics and dramatic reconstructions, the programme re-creates how Noah's ark could have looked, tests if it was possible for the animals to have boarded two by two, explores geological evidence for a worldwide flood and searches for the remains of the ark itself.

Archaeological evidence does suggest that the story could actually be a simpler tale based on real historical figures and events. Clay tablets discovered in Iraq reveal a story that is remarkably similar to that of Noah in the Bible. Several epics tell of a Sumerian King who survived a massive flood in Mesopotamia. The story is supported by geological evidence for flooding in the area around 5,000 years ago.

Could this story have provided the inspiration for the Jewish priests who wrote the Book of Genesis 2,000 years later? Jeremy Bowen says: "When they first heard the story, how could they fail to recognise its moral power? If humankind falls short of God's laws there's a dreadful price to pay. Behind that moral message lies one of the world's greatest stories."
9 posted on 03/06/2004 5:09:02 PM PST by mhking
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To: Pokey78
The BBC's cadre of professional leftists are getting a 2-fer here, one of which is probably unknown by most Americans.

Remember, virtually every society on Earth has or has had a "great flood" story. The Hindus have the story of Ma-nu, that is, Noah, It has all the same number sets that the Biblical Noah account has, and a large boat,

Without recounting the entire thing, it's worth remembering that British snobbery regarding Hindu India and it's ancient stories is alive and well at the BBC, and those old boys don't count it a good day unless they get to insult Indian culture and history.

Somebody there is going to get a bonus this year for this one.

10 posted on 03/06/2004 5:16:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: aimhigh
Liberals are so stupid. It was raining. And rain water is drinkable.

There's nothing in the article to suggest that it was raining during Gilgamesh's putative flood.

11 posted on 03/06/2004 5:28:09 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why.)
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To: Pokey78
Was the Flood Global?

Problems With A Global Flood?

The (second) greatest catastrophe of all time

How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark?

The flood of Noah and the flood of Gilgamesh

12 posted on 03/06/2004 5:29:00 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Young Werther
Apparently, great flood stories exists in many cultures around the world. It would make sense to believe either there were a lot of local large floods or one universal flood.
13 posted on 03/06/2004 5:33:49 PM PST by IpaqMan
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To: Pokey78
I don't know why we should suddenly believe the BBC on this story.

We can't believe them on anything else!

14 posted on 03/06/2004 5:36:39 PM PST by Gritty ("The religion transforming the West for two millennia is a blank slate for liberals-Ann Coulter)
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To: jocon307
And is it true that Gilgamesh is a historical, rather than mythical, person?

I have also heard the Gilgamesh flood story described as the worlds first novel.

15 posted on 03/06/2004 5:42:05 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Pokey78
I love naysayers. They are so "worldly". My God can create anything he wants. I also love how they often speak of God in the past tense. No faith there!

I was caught in a flood in Dallas back in 1988. It rained seven inches in forty-five minutes. I believe in water. I believe in God.
16 posted on 03/06/2004 5:42:15 PM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: IpaqMan
Apparently, great flood stories exists in many cultures around the world. It would make sense to believe either there were a lot of local large floods or one universal flood.

I think it's most likely that there was one very large localized flood a long time ago, and that the story was so impressive (and so easy to visualize, because most cultures have experienced flood) that it propagated worldwide. My money's on the speculated Black Sea flood; it would have been long enough ago that the story could spread through population migrations.

17 posted on 03/06/2004 5:42:49 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why.)
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To: Pokey78
They conclude that the Noah story was invented by Jewish scribes who embellished the story of Gilgamesh to evoke an all powerful and vengeful God. Noah's Ark will be shown on BBC1 on Sunday March 21 at 7.00pm.

What? No stories about how showing this film will cause a rash of anti-Semitism? No wailing about how historically inaccurate it is? No calls for the BBC to not show it? Hmm.

18 posted on 03/06/2004 5:45:45 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Pokey78
BS i have a nail from the ark. it is located about 200 feet above the black sea about 10 feet under ground and about 1000 yard?? from the black sea in turkey.
19 posted on 03/06/2004 5:47:46 PM PST by camas
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To: Pokey78
Sounds like nothing new here.
20 posted on 03/06/2004 5:47:46 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: whereasandsoforth
I was caught in a flood in Dallas back in 1988. It rained seven inches in forty-five minutes. I believe in water. I believe in God.

At that rate, it would have taken approximately 1,089 days to fully inundate North America.

21 posted on 03/06/2004 5:47:54 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why.)
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To: Pokey78
Jewish mythology.
22 posted on 03/06/2004 5:54:10 PM PST by Kirkwood (Its always a good time to donate to the DAV and USO.)
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To: Pokey78
And that's not anti-Semitic - calling the Jews liars and saying they just made it up?
23 posted on 03/06/2004 5:57:28 PM PST by RightthinkinAmerican (You can have my gun when I'm done shooting your cold, dead body with it.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
"At that rate, it would have taken approximately 1,089 days to fully inundate North America."

Yeah, you're right. But that was a storm that happened in Dallas back in 1988. God wasn't using his Rath. But that storm was awesome enough.

But speaking of God's Rath, maybe a naysayer should say a little prayer tonight. Rath can be gentle as well.

24 posted on 03/06/2004 5:59:18 PM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: Pokey78
Two by two? Not exactly. According to Scripture, there were 7 (or 7 pairs) of every clean animal when they started out their bon voyage.
25 posted on 03/06/2004 6:00:08 PM PST by Theo
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To: Pokey78
The anti-Semitic BBC.
26 posted on 03/06/2004 6:04:51 PM PST by spyone
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To: Pokey78
Gilgamesh is thought to be a real historical king of Uruk, about 2700 B.C. Uruk was a Sumerian, not a Babylonian city. Gilgamesh himself was not the survivor of the flood in the so-called "Epic of Gilgamesh" but simply hears the story of the flood from the actual survivor, Ut-napishtim, who corresponds to Noah.

Ut-napishtim is the name according to the text found in Ashurbanipal's library (Ashurbanipal was an Assyrian king who reigned from 668 to 627). In a Sumerian version of the story from about 1700 B.C. he is called Ziusudra, and in a Babylonian version he is called Atrahasis.

27 posted on 03/06/2004 6:06:58 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: MonroeDNA
It's kind of cool to take Genesis literally. Consider what the earth looked like according to Scripture....

There was a layer of water above the earth, just kind of floating up there. Apparently there wasn't any pollution in the atmosphere on which the water could condense and form rain (there's no mention of rain in Scripture prior to the flood)....

People lived hundreds of years during that time, typically 500, 600, 700 years. Then something from "the deeps" shot up (a volcano, maybe?) and then that layer of water collapsed onto the earth in a great "rain." Polution from the volcano reached the atmosphere, providing something on which the water up there might condense, and fall. Interesting.

Also interesting to note that people after the flood -- immediately after it -- lived a lot shorter, to maybe 120 or less years. Makes you wonder if that water layer protected people from bad sun rays?

In any case, there's a lot of fascinating scientific consistencies in that part of Scripture.
28 posted on 03/06/2004 6:09:33 PM PST by Theo
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To: Pokey78
There is also no truth to the myth that socialism is a successful societal model. This does not prevent the BBC from promoting this creed.
29 posted on 03/06/2004 6:12:39 PM PST by spyone
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To: Pokey78
I wonder if the BBC regularly disrespects the Muslim religion??
31 posted on 03/06/2004 6:45:39 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Theo
In any case, there's a lot of fascinating scientific consistencies in that part of Scripture.

Well, except for the gravity part, of course. And the question of where all the water went.

32 posted on 03/06/2004 6:48:17 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why.)
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To: mollynme
I love it when people say "oh the flood could never have happened because everyone knows that Miracles are impossible."
33 posted on 03/06/2004 6:50:35 PM PST by delapaz
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To: SedVictaCatoni
The gravity part? Not sure I understand. You mean about why particles of water float in the sky? Hm. Not sure why clouds float.

Perhaps all the water went into the oceans. Perhaps with the flood, the tectonic plates shifted dramatically, spreading the continents apart and creating oceans.

Maybe the thing that caused the fossils in their various layers (and trees jutting through the layers, the thing that caused the continents to spread apart, the thing that turned the palm trees and mammoths into ice on the North Pole, seashells on tops of mountains, and people to live only 100 or so years was the flood? Not sure, but it does seem consistent with science and with Scripture.
34 posted on 03/06/2004 6:56:31 PM PST by Theo
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To: delapaz
A world wide global flood as described in the Bible never happenned - at least not while man has been on the planet. If it had happenned that recently in geological history there would be irrefutable evidence and far fewer species of fauna and flora.

That's not to say miracles don't happen just thata world-wide flood didn't.

35 posted on 03/06/2004 7:06:16 PM PST by PFC
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To: Young Werther
good link. I downloaded that site to my laptop a while back. He's up to something like 260 stories.
36 posted on 03/06/2004 7:06:41 PM PST by djf
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To: Theo
Not only did it begin to rain (which had not been seen before), but also the fountains of the great deep were "broken up". Water was coming down from above, and from beneath at the same time.

Later, "the fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained."

I wonder what percentage of dry land would be covered with water if both ice caps melted?
37 posted on 03/06/2004 7:22:59 PM PST by backtobasics
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To: backtobasics
I wonder what percentage of dry land would be covered with water if both ice caps melted?

Lots! It's my opinion that prior to the flood, that area was a jungle, with big animals and palm trees. After the flood, when the world was knocked off its axis and that water layer was gone, it froze up. This is the informed opinion of many "creation scientists."

38 posted on 03/06/2004 7:33:44 PM PST by Theo
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To: Pokey78
Odd how worldwide other cultures have references to the flood. It happened just as stated.

Only a fool would take BBC seriously.
39 posted on 03/06/2004 7:37:09 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Odd how worldwide other cultures have references to the flood.

Because, believe it not, most cultures have experienced memorable local floods at some point.

It happened just as stated.

"As stated" by *which* culture? most of the various flood stories differ greatly in their details. And if there had been a worldwide flood within recent history, the scattered stories of it should be far more consistent than they are.

Furthermore there would be unmistakable, clear evidence of it in dozens of different independent scientific fields. And there isn't. Additionally, there is clear evidence that there *hasn't* been (due to the existence of patterns of evidence which would not be found as they are if an Earth-submerging flood had happened within the past 500 million years).

40 posted on 03/06/2004 7:50:23 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Theo
It's kind of cool to take Genesis literally. Consider what the earth looked like according to Scripture.... There was a layer of water above the earth, just kind of floating up there. Apparently there wasn't any pollution in the atmosphere on which the water could condense and form rain [...] Polution from the volcano reached the atmosphere, providing something on which the water up there might condense, and fall.

"Pollution" (i.e. particulate matter) assists in the formation of rain, but it's in no way essential, and rain will still form and fall in a "pure" atmosphere of just gasses and water vapor. So that explanation is out.

Even rain actually did require nucleation sites to form, an Earth with a 100% pure gas/vapor atmosphere (and it wouldn't be -- dust storms, etc. would "dirty" it in a hurry), then there would still be the issue of the supersaturated atmosphere contacting the "dirty" surface of the Earth, at which point you'd get rapid condensation on surface objects (trees, grass, dirt, people, etc.) and if there had actually been enough water vapor in the atmosphere to flood the Earth, then the Earth would have quickly "dewed" itself into an underwater state like a dehumidifier coil in a sauna.

People lived hundreds of years during that time, typically 500, 600, 700 years. [...] Also interesting to note that people after the flood -- immediately after it -- lived a lot shorter, to maybe 120 or less years. Makes you wonder if that water layer protected people from bad sun rays?

If so then there should be a significant difference in the longevity of people who are housebound than those who spend a lot of time outdoors. There isn't. Nor do long-term prisoners live longer, nor lab animals that spend their entire lives indoors (even in deep basements).

In any case, there's a lot of fascinating scientific consistencies in that part of Scripture.

There may be, but I don't think this is it.

41 posted on 03/06/2004 8:02:34 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Just a few of many paragraphs from just one of many websites discussing "the flood": http://www.the-flood.net :

Consider the fossil record: billions of dead things buried in sedimentation ("laid-down-by-water rock") found all over the earth. Geologist Dr. John Morris explains, "Sedimentary rocks, by definition, are laid down as sediments by moving fluids, are made up of pieces of rock or other material which existed somewhere else, and were eroded or dissolved and redeposited in their present location." [1] Over 70% of the earth's surface rock is sedimentary rock (the rest of earth's surface rock is volcanic igneous and metamorphic rock). In these sedimentary rock layers, geologists find some very odd features. For example, fossilized trees buried at all angles, upside-down and right-side-up, often passing through multiple rock layers, obviously the result of a marine cataclysm. These "polystrate" fossils (poly, meaning more than one; strate, meaning rock layer) are a worldwide phenomenon.

Consider the ratios of dead things we find buried in this sedimentary rock: "95% of all fossils are marine invertebrates, particularly shellfish. Of the remaining 5%, 95% are algae and plant fossils (4.74%). 95% of the remaining 0.25% consists of the other invertebrates, including insects (0.2375%). The remaining 0.0125% includes all vertebrates, mostly fish. 95% of the few land vertebrates consist of less than one bone. (For example, only about 1,200 dinosaur skeletons have been found.)" [2]

Also consider the abundant fossil remains of marine life found atop every mountain range in the world. For example, clusters of hundreds of gigantic (300kg/650lbs) oysters found atop the Andes Mountains in South America. [3]

There's plenty of discussion out there on scientific support for the biblical account of the flood if you're interested in reading up on it. It really is quite fascinating, and quite intellectually satisfying for those with inquisitive and scientific minds.
42 posted on 03/06/2004 8:11:08 PM PST by Theo
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To: Theo
Well, according to the plot of "Water World" there would be a "total submergence, sorta.

It is a fact that if we cranked up the bull dozers and pushed all the land into the sea, (they would need to be submerisbles in order to "even out everthing), we would indeed have a water world with the average depth of the ocean exceeding a mile!!!!

43 posted on 03/06/2004 8:19:13 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Semi Civil Servant
...the Beeb is 'a "great myth",...

I'm a regular listener to the BBC World Service.

Of course, I run everything from them though a logic and reasoning filter.

Just the past couple of days, reporting on British troops in Iraq, they preface all stories by "Part of the American led coalition..." and "...human right groups have gone to the ICC to see if the war was illegal...", etc.

I must confess their brief readings from "Pompeii" have just about gotten me to buy the book.

44 posted on 03/06/2004 8:23:28 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
bump
45 posted on 03/06/2004 8:23:42 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You...You sit down! You've had your say and now I'll have mine!!!!)
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To: Ichneumon
The Institute for Creation Research has a number of articles on the flood and the "Antediluvan Vapor Canopy" and numerous other things:

http://www.icr.org

Pretty heavy stuff. Check out the research in this article: SENSITIVITY STUDIES ON VAPOR CANOPY TEMPERATURE PROFILES ( http://www.icr.org/research/lv/lv-r05.htm ). Wild stuff....
46 posted on 03/06/2004 8:26:23 PM PST by Theo
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To: Ichneumon
I wonder if great DISPLACEMENT of Earth's waters would result in a universal flood. The water would not fill the ocean and rise over the land too, it would be lifted out of the ocean and poured on the land, taking a year to run back off. A couple of ways this could happen... For example asteroid strikes or the methane crystals in the ocean changing state, or both. Ever hear of the "Carolina Bays"?

I also wonder if we might be looking at a "world wide" flood through a 21st century lens, instead of what they considered "world wide" many thousands of years ago. The Bibical account does emphasize that it was a world wide flood, and that all the high hills were covered- but do they mean a gobal flood in the sense we understand it? The concept of the globe was not widely understood until 1492.

Or maybe it was global in the sense of it effecting every continent, though not necessarily buring all mountain chains with water, just the ones around Mesopotamia. Something wiped out all of the large land dwelling animals in the Americas around 12,000 years ago. That is the same time the caucasian looking skeletons in the Americas go away. The next human skeleltons are from Asian stock. 12K is pushing it back pretty far, but something happened so that old world animals lived on, but large new world animals (and humans) died out.
47 posted on 03/06/2004 8:45:07 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Pokey78
More secular Socialist arrogance spouted by the BBC.
48 posted on 03/06/2004 9:02:41 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: Ahban
The concept of the globe was not widely understood until 1492.

The concept of the globe was widely understood as far back as 250 BC, when Eratosthenes successfully measured the circumfrence of the Earth.

49 posted on 03/06/2004 9:09:21 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why.)
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To: Pokey78
God and Noah or the BBC

OK I've picked my side ...............

50 posted on 03/06/2004 9:16:40 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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