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The coming ice age [full-blown glaciation in less than 20 years]
Backwoods Home ^ | 3-8-04 | John Silveira

Posted on 03/08/2004 4:57:00 PM PST by SJackson

As little as 30 years ago the talk wasn’t about global warming, it was about an imminent ice age. Is an ice age likely? Even possible? Consider this: There have been more than 20 glacial advances, or ice ages, in just the last two million years. And we know from geological evidence that each glaciation lasted anywhere from 20,000 to 100,000 years—no one knows why the disparity—separated by warm periods that last some 10,000 to 15,000 years. What we can be reasonably sure of is that we’re now in one of the warm periods, and this one is already 13,000 years old. Some scientists think it’s at an end and a new ice age is about to begin.

No one really knows what causes ice ages. Theories abound. They include perturbations in the earth’s orbit, changes in ocean currents, the earth periodically passing through galactic dust that obscures the sun, variations in the sun’s energy output, changes in continental positions, uplift of continental blocks, reduction of CO2 in the atmosphere, etc. Evidence or experiment may eventually resolve which of the theories wins out, or it may turn out that a combination of theories are true. It may even be that none of the current theories proves satisfactory and some entirely new theory ultimately explains their cause.

But what is pretty certain is how they take place. It was once common wisdom to believe that the advent of an ice age took place over centuries or even millennia, and that they ended the same way. It was thought that the changes were so slow that, if people were around to witness them, each generation would hardly notice any change. If the next glaciation were to come on slowly, and we recognized it as the beginning of an ice age, maybe there would be time for civilization to adjust: to begin food storage, to develop crop hybrids that will endure shorter growing seasons, to move populations, factories, and technology—the core of our civilization—into southern climates, etc.

But we now have evidence that ice ages come on with an abruptness that will catch us by total surprise. Physical evidence indicates that when the last ice age started, the British Isles went from a temperate climate to being completely covered with glaciers hundreds of feet thick in just 20 years.

Do scientists think it’ll happen that way again? Yes. And if the next ice age starts here’s how it may occur: At first we wouldn’t even realize it, so the first few years we’d feel we were just having one or two bad winters. But after a few years rivers will freeze all-year-round, snow from the previous years won’t completely melt, glaciers will begin to form, and some of what is currently now the world’s most fertile ground will become unfarmable.

Countries bordering on both sides of the Atlantic will change radically as a result of changes in the Gulf Stream, and Europe, which today is almost 20 degrees warmer than other parts of the world at the same latitude, will become as cold and dry as Siberia. The Sahara may again become forested while the Amazon basin becomes a desert. Florida may also become a desert, as it was in a previous ice age.

At the same time, if the climate changes enough to disturb the monsoon season that fuels agriculture from Africa to China, where over half the world’s six billion people now live, hundreds of millions will starve when the climate abruptly changes. There’s no way to prepare them for that.

Canadian and Russian wheat will fail completely. American agriculture, on which much of the world depends, will be scaled back by shorter growing seasons. Not only will we not have enough food for export, we won’t be able to grow enough to sustain even our own current population. And jobs? Factories will close, service businesses will disappear, stocked supermarkets will become a thing of the past. Get ready for your standard of living to drop like a rock while you and your kin go hungry.

How far will the ice fields extend? In North America they will most likely reach as far south as present day Chicago. But they may go further. And this isn’t going to be some picture postcard winter landscape. At the height of the last ice age, the ice fields covering much of North America were up to two miles thick. So, expect the great northern cities, such as New York, Boston, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, etc., to be swept away before advancing glaciers. In the meantime, sea levels will drop and more of the continental shelves will be exposed. You’ll be able to walk from Siberia to Alaska, from California to the Channel Islands, from Britain to France, from Australia to New Guinea.

But when is this really all likely to happen? Because no one knows what causes ice ages, there’s no way to forecast when the next one will start, how bad it will be, or what effect the (allegedly man-made) global warming taking place today will have on it. We can’t tell whether it will be less severe than the last one, when the ice sheets only extended as far south as Wisconsin, or as bad as some of the glaciations of half a billion years ago when ice sheets formed all the way to the equator. Although this latter scenario is unlikely, no one can be sure. But if it does, kiss the human race good-bye.

What seems fairly certain is that we will go from the world as it is today to full-blown glaciation in less than 20 years, maybe in as little as four or five. And there is no way the United States can adjust to and survive a climate change this abrupt.

Can we stop it? We can’t even stop a single snow storm. Imagine trying to stop an ice age that’s going to go on for tens of thousands of years.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: amazon; climatechange; desertification; refoliation; sahara
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To: SJackson
kiss the human race good-bye

Yeah right! Can any journalist resist the temptation to take every idea to the extreme?

My theory on all of this is that the Earth's magnetic field will continue to weaken. The weakening shield (the magnetic field creates a shield against most of the sun's deadly radiation) causes the ozone to fluctuate year after year: global warming theory cites this as evidence. However, the poles will eventually flip, and during that time the heat generated will cause gases to rise up into the atmosphere, and into space. This will cause the surface to cool, just like an evaporative cooler. When the poles stablize, the Earth will go into a rapid cool-down mode causing another ice-age. Life will change on the planet, and humankind will continue to endure. The good Earth, being God's creation, will continue working perfectly like it always has.

Copyrighted here on FR.

41 posted on 03/08/2004 6:00:30 PM PST by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: SJackson
Can we stop it? We can’t even stop a single snow storm. Imagine trying to stop an ice age that’s going to go on for tens of thousands of years.

Give us 50 years to develop nanotechnology and the inevitable cheap space travel that follows it, and we will stop a new ice age or ignore it and colonize the rest of the solar system as we please.

42 posted on 03/08/2004 6:02:31 PM PST by marktwain
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To: lizma
Return of the Ice Age was the rage back then too.

Right. And if I recall correctly, food and water would be more valuable than oil, with American and a few other contries having an OPEC like food cartel. And all of that was to happen before the 70's was out. Heck at the time I figured I'd be lucky to be alive in 1980.

Made it!!

43 posted on 03/08/2004 6:07:36 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (I am not completely worthless; I can always serve as a "bad example".)
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To: Lawgvr1955
Well, actually, food and water are more valuable than oil now. At least they cost more.
44 posted on 03/08/2004 6:09:53 PM PST by Double Tap
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To: SJackson
Well, there goes the neighborhood.

Clark Fork ice dam / Lake Missoula bump.
45 posted on 03/08/2004 6:10:37 PM PST by Noumenon (This tagline has been outsourced to Bangalore)
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To: Double Tap
Water costs more than wine when you buy it by the Evian bottle. But overall food and water are still pretty good bargains.

I'm so wealthy I use water to bathe in.

46 posted on 03/08/2004 6:13:36 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (I am not completely worthless; I can always serve as a "bad example".)
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To: SJackson
How far will the ice fields extend? In North America they will most likely reach as far south as present day Chicago. But they may go further. And this isn’t going to be some picture postcard winter landscape. At the height of the last ice age, the ice fields covering much of North America were up to two miles thick. So, expect the great northern cities, such as New York, Boston, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, etc.

Aren't these places covered with ice most of the time anyway?

47 posted on 03/08/2004 6:14:37 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: SJackson
You cannot go into an ice age when you are still coming out of one. Those are the rules.
48 posted on 03/08/2004 6:16:03 PM PST by microgood
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To: Lawgvr1955
So is oil. A bargain that is.
49 posted on 03/08/2004 6:16:22 PM PST by Double Tap
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To: Lawgvr1955
So is oil. A bargain that is.
50 posted on 03/08/2004 6:16:29 PM PST by Double Tap
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To: SJackson
Here's to hoping. I've had the urge to buy a snowmobile for several years now...... :-)
51 posted on 03/08/2004 6:16:39 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Too funny...loved that movie.
52 posted on 03/08/2004 6:17:52 PM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: SJackson
I am a firm believer in the theory of man made global warming. However, I also belive that we are WAY overdue for an ice age. I think that man made global warming is the only thing holding that ice age at bay.

So throw another log on the fire!!!!

Read Larry Niven and Jerry Porunelle's (and ?? Barnes?) Fallen Angels for a full (and very funny) treatment of this idea. What happens if the Greens take over, insititute their draconian eco laws, and the result is glaciers in Cleveland? Great book. They skewer every leftist sacred cow that there is. William Proxmire is the root of all evil, when you get right down to it. One of my favorite books. And they aucitioned off character parts to SF fans at conventions to raise money for good causes. I recognize over half of the characters. Fun stuff.

53 posted on 03/08/2004 6:17:56 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: SJackson
Hey if it will bury the English under 200 feet of ice, BRING IT ON!!
54 posted on 03/08/2004 6:20:03 PM PST by Freeper john
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To: SJackson
We'd better get ANWR drilled now. Otherwise, well depth will be increased by several thousand feet of ice, and it might not be economically feasible. And we must have more hydrocarbon energy to keep warm in the new ice age.

Drill ANWR NOW! Before the coming glaciation makes it much more difficult.

On the other hand, maybe we can spread carbon black on the glaciers and melt them.

Maybe.

And maybe somebody just wants some new gummit grants to study this new/old phenomenon. Global warming has about run its course, and it's time for new funding for this. Can we afford to wait?

Oh, I was so looking forward to a warmer clime. Now this!
55 posted on 03/08/2004 6:23:29 PM PST by Ole Okie (Kerry! Kerry! Kerry! Raw, raw, raw! John Effin&Essin Kerry-Heinz for dogcatcher!!)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Hey! Where'd you get my driver's license photo?
56 posted on 03/08/2004 6:25:59 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: weegee
Bin Laden cast as family man who loves volleyball, hates ice

Interesting - I didn't know that.

If they ever catch him alive, he should be sentenced to a life term in a lovely little garden spot called Adak Alaska instead of Gitmo.

57 posted on 03/08/2004 6:28:27 PM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Making hasenfeffer out of bunnyrabbits since 1980)
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To: SJackson
I can't wait to ice skate on Lake Okeechobee.

5.56mm

58 posted on 03/08/2004 6:29:23 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SJackson
Check this site out: http://www.iceagenow.com/
59 posted on 03/08/2004 6:32:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: SJackson
At lerast I won't have to pay big prices for ice at the seven eleven.

Gin & Tonic ping!

Regards,

60 posted on 03/08/2004 6:32:30 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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