Drug War: America's War at Home

Drug War 101 ^ | 3/25/04 | Drug War 101

[sean327]

What the hell does Posse Comitatus have to do with going after the Columbian and Mexican drug cartels? I am a conservative, my beliefs on the Drug war do not change that fact. I don't see what good the leagalization of drugs would do. What benefit would it bring? The same clowns I knew in High School who were the druggies, are still the druggies, they have done nothing with their lives, except leach off my tax money. Why should I have to pay for some worthless no good lazy jackass whose only goal in life is to remain stoned out of his mind 24-7?

Yes our school system sucks, and it can't all be contributed to drugs, but it can contributed to the dumb assed attitude, that you should do whatever you think feels good, the rest of the world be damned. I spend alot of my time undoing what liberal ex hippie teachers pump into my kids, and alot more of my time keeping them away from drug pushing losers who would like nothing more than to corrupt them with your screw it lets get stoned attitude. As for your old coot comment, I'm 38 years old, I don't have a porch, and I don't bitch about how bad things are now compared to how they were in my day. I actually think things are pretty good and will get better, because we will beat the Liberals/Socialists, and any day I can go hunting or fishing with my kids is a great day. We will always disagree about the drug issue, but that does not make us enemies. I guarantee we agree on 95% of all other issues.

[marktwain]

If you truly believe "legal drugs destroy much, much, much more than illicit drugs" then surely you oppose making more drugs legal. Unless of course you are pro-destruction of society.

Of course not, because the cure proposed, i.e. Prohibition, is much worse than the disease.

I do not believe in the fantasy utopia of a "drug free" society. Everything has a trade off, and the trade off for the end of the drug war would be that most people's lives would get better, while illicit drug dealers, the criminal justice system, and politicians would have less money and power.

I can live with that.

[philman_36]

What the hell does Posse Comitatus have to do with going after the Columbian and Mexican drug cartels?
Well now you're singing a different tune. Before you stated ...The U.S. needs to go after the producers and suppliers of drugs with the full force and might of our military.
Now you're narrowly defining who should be killed. Do you think that Columbian and Mexican drug cartels are the only producers and suppliers of illegal drugs? (as long as were being specific...) Americans produce and supply a good deal of the drugs used in this nation. Kill 'em all though, right? No sense going only for the foreigners, right? What's good for those wetbacks is good for Americans, isn't it? Pssst...your bigotry is showing.
I am a conservative, my beliefs on the Drug war do not change that fact.
Well, conservative has many meanings. I guess your meaning is different than mine.
I don't see what good the leagalization of drugs would do.
Obviously.
What benefit would it bring?
Is this a rhetorical question or is it an honest question. I'd like to know before I answer it. I feel, however, that no matter how I answer the question you'll not be swayed by my comments and will just say it's BS and continue on with your own predisposition towards the issue.
The same clowns I knew in High School who were the druggies, are still the druggies, they have done nothing with their lives, except leach off my tax money.
And how do you know this? Do you follow those people around and watch every aspect of their lives? If so then my next question is...why are you so preoccupied with other people's lives?
And as far as leaches on your tax dollars, well, there is that aspect of that mere 5% again. Shall we look towards the non-druggie leaches? That would be about 95%, wouldn't it? They're not "druggies" yet they leach far more from you than the druggies do. Don't hear you bitching and complaining about them leaching off of you.
And one more thing about those high school friends of yours...I assume those high school druggies are still living with their parents, right? Wouldn't they then be leaching off of their parents and not you? Why are you complaining? Get their parents to complain as they are the ones who should have the complaint, if there is one that is.
Why should I have to pay for some worthless no good lazy jackass whose only goal in life is to remain stoned out of his mind 24-7?
You shouldn't and neither should I. Nobody should. In my opinion the only ones who should be helping anyone in the manner in which you suggest are the churches and that voluntarily without government assistance. Neither of us can do much about that though as the programs that are established are so deeply ingrained in this nation now that they'll never be done away with.
Yes our school system sucks, and it can't all be contributed to drugs...
Changing that tune again with specifics? You sure changed that from earlier. It was all the fault of drugs. I am glad to see you clarifying your responses though.
...but it can contributed to the dumb assed attitude, that you should do whatever you think feels good, the rest of the world be damned.
Exactly what is a "dumb assed attitude" and how is it obtained? Your response is very vague. Do all schoolchildren have a dumb assed, do whatever you think feels good attitude? And if even a majority of them do have that attitude then who is teaching them this? The teachers with whom our children spend more time with daily or us parents who see our children a mere average of four to five hours a day if we're lucky?
I spend alot of my time undoing what liberal ex hippie teachers pump into my kids...
As do I. However, most of my children's teachers aren't old enough to be ex hippies. Your children's teachers probably aren't either. It's called "getting too old to work" or "retirement".
...and alot more of my time keeping them away from drug pushing losers who would like nothing more than to corrupt them with your screw it lets get stoned attitude.
My "screw it lets get stoned attitude"? You can KMA! I'm not trying to ply drugs on anyone's children! However, what those "children" do of their own accord when they attain the age of 18 is their business. It isn't your business either even though you are their parent. Of course, some want 21 yr olds to still be considered children.
And why are your children choosing to hang around with those type of kids? You must be doing something wrong if you're having to continually do the same thing over and over again.
As for your old coot comment, I'm 38 years old, I don't have a porch, and I don't bitch about how bad things are now compared to how they were in my day.
The age is irrelevant, the mentality is. And have you had anything besides spoon fed propaganda force fed to you all of those 38 years? Did you ever learn critical thinking skills for yourself? From the sounds of it you've savored every morsel you've been fed!
BTW, you're bitching right now about how bad things are compared to how they were in the old days. Didn't you just say something about ex hippie teachers? Weren't they the very teachers you had when you went to school? Remember those pretty, young, idealistic teachers all the boys drooled over in school in the 70's and 80's? Well, guess what...? Need a clue? Who taught whom?
And what about those druggies leaching off of your taxes? Isn't that the same thing? Things are bad now compared to how they were in your day...you're now paying taxes! LOL!
I actually think things are pretty good and will get better, because we will beat the Liberals/Socialists, and any day I can go hunting or fishing with my kids is a great day.
Well, your comments show a complete disconnect with that claim. You may want to go back and look at your own responses because you sure seem to acknowledge that things aren't all that good and they don't appear to be improving.
And as far as going hunting or fishing with your kids any day...man, you can do that anytime that you want now. Nothing prevents you from doing that, not even "druggies". Nothing is holding you back in any way, shape or form except yourself, well, and those "druggies" which you seem to spend so much time trying to prevent from gatting at your kids that is.
And as an aside...it sounds like you've gone over into the liberal "It's for the children" zone with that little number.
And from your children's POV consider this...You can choose your friends, you're stuck with your relatives. They're sure stuck with you!
Don't force them away from you in the process of trying to protect them.
We will always disagree about the drug issue, but that does not make us enemies.
We will? Come back when one of your innocent friends or relatives have been gunned down and we'll discuss the issue again. Besides why would I want to befriend you who would murder others whose sole "crime" is to merely be a black marketeer?
I guarantee we agree on 95% of all other issues.
Perhaps, but with the narrowmindedness with which you possess on the issues we've discussed I can't be too sure about that.