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Saddam Warned of WTC Attack Before 9/11, Praised Bin Laden Afterwards
Newsmax ^ | 3-28-04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 03/28/2004 6:10:42 AM PST by truthandlife

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To: backhoe
Backhoe -

Do you have any links that will provide information a statement Clarke made today on MTP that he cancelled staff vacations prior to 9/11 because he KNEW a terrorist attack was coming?
51 posted on 03/28/2004 8:57:28 AM PST by Peach
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To: Fun Bob; Mo1; NautiNurse; Agnes Heep; Reb Raider; Arkie2; LindaSOG; mitchbert; sd-joe; syriacus; ...
Ping to this post. Recall that the dems ONLY strategy in this election is to argue that Iraq was unnecessary.
52 posted on 03/28/2004 8:58:48 AM PST by js1138
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To: Fitzcarraldo
I recall hearing he was killed by someone posing as a journalist whose camera contained a bomb.

http://www.help-for-you.com/news/Nov2001/Nov26/PRT26-37Article.html

Suspects in Masood Assassination Arrested

VOA News 26 Nov 2001 16:37 UTC

A Tunisian national has been detained in France and 11 other people in Belgium as part of a probe into the slaying of Afghanistan's Northern Alliance leader Ahmed Shah Masood. Commander Masood was assassinated in early September in his northern Panjsher valley stronghold by two Moroccans traveling on stolen Belgian passports and posing as journalists. The Moroccans exploded a booby-trapped camera while interviewing the commander in his office in northern Afghanistan.

A source close to the investigation says 11 other people believed to be members of the terrorist network that carried out the assassination were arrested early Monday in Belgium. Some analysts suspect that the September 9 assassination of Commander Masood was a go-ahead signal by terrorist network al-Qaida for the September 11 terror attacks in the United States.

Some information for this report provided by AFP and DPA.

53 posted on 03/28/2004 8:59:57 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: MizSterious
LOL

I think we Freepers need to go on the road and talk show circuit. We could do a better job defending the administration than the administration officials do.
54 posted on 03/28/2004 9:00:45 AM PST by Peach
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To: truthandlife
If this is true then both administrations left the door open.
55 posted on 03/28/2004 9:05:01 AM PST by wtc911 (Doesn't matter if your head is in the sand or up your a**, the view is the same.)
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To: All
http://www.help-for-you.com/news/Oct2001/Oct24/PRT24-39Article.html

Report: British Police Arrest Suspect in Masood Assassination

Michael Drudge London

24 Oct 2001 16:33 UTC

British news reports say police in London have arrested an Egyptian man for questioning about the assassination of an Afghan opposition leader.

London police say its anti-terrorist branch arrested a 38-year-old man in west London Tuesday, and he is being questioned in a central London police station. They have not released his name.

However, British newspapers say the man in question is Yasser al-Siri, an Egyptian exile who faces a death sentence in his homeland for a murder conviction.

According to several British newspapers, al-Siri is being interrogated about the September 8 assassination of Ahmad Shah Massoud, a commander of the opposition Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.

The accounts say he provided references to two men who traveled from London to Pakistan, and then on to Afghanistan to carry out the Massoud assassination.

The two men convinced Mr. Massoud that they were journalists for an Arab television company. It is believed they hid a bomb in the television camera they used. The explosion fatally wounded Commander Massoud and both of the assassins died.

American investigators suspect the Massoud assassination is linked to Osama bin Laden, who wanted to destabilize anti-Taleban forces in Afghanistan ahead of the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.

Al-Siri has denied any links to terrorism and he says his London-based Islamic Observation Center is a news and information source. Al-Siri was sentenced to death in Egypt for the 1993 assassination attempt against former prime minister Atef Sedki. A 12-year-old girl was killed in the attack.

He also has reported links to al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, a militant Islamic group that claimed responsibility for a 1997 attack at Luxor, Egypt, in which 58 tourists and four Egyptians were killed.

In a separate Egyptian trial two years ago, al-Siri was sentenced in absentia to life imprisonment for plotting to carry out attacks against officials and police.

Al-Siri fled to London in 1994. He allegedly entered Britain on a false passport, but he was granted asylum and he has so far fended off Egypt's attempts to have him extradited.

56 posted on 03/28/2004 9:05:33 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Peach
Do you have any links that will provide information a statement Clarke made today on MTP that he cancelled staff vacations prior to 9/11 because he KNEW a terrorist attack was coming?

Everyone seems to have known something was coming. on 9/15 Clarke wrote an email to Condi outlining the warnings that had been given to law enforcement.

Not specific or useful warnings, mind you, but he did have a list of al Qaida members, in case any of them broke any American laws.

57 posted on 03/28/2004 9:05:46 AM PST by js1138
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To: raynearhood
Unfortunately, being read into the record and read to the American people via mainstream media (or on SNL or the Tonight Show) is two different things. With this 9-11 commission going on, there has got to be a way for the White House to get this out there. Any suggestions.
Email the link to this thread to everyone you know. Hopefully, some of us here know some higher-ups in the RNC.
58 posted on 03/28/2004 9:07:02 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Peach
Do you have any links that will provide information a statement Clarke made today on MTP that he cancelled staff vacations prior to 9/11 because he KNEW a terrorist attack was coming?

I just caught that on the Screaming Faces post, but haven't yet looked into it. On the face of it, it sounds Clintonian- a deliberate lie spun out to damage his enemy's credibility.

I looked over at "Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 28 Mar 2004" and see you are on it, and don't seem to have gotten an answer yet.

I'll see what I can find.

59 posted on 03/28/2004 9:07:15 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: wtc911
If this is true then both administrations left the door open.

That much is obvious from the results.

The argument being pushed by the dems, however, is that Iraq had nothing to do with it. We Know that Iraq had inside information that they failed to share with us. They were privy to the conspiracy. Reason enough to declare war.

And it makes a fool out of Clarke for arguing that Iraq was not involved.

60 posted on 03/28/2004 9:09:26 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
I am on board with the FP policies of the neo-con folks. The ME map needs to be reshaped. The war in Iraq was step one.

Clarke is an egomaniacal liar. The Dems backed a loser again.

61 posted on 03/28/2004 9:12:51 AM PST by wtc911 (Doesn't matter if your head is in the sand or up your a**, the view is the same.)
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To: backhoe
Thanks, backhoe. I'm looking too but consider other freepers far superior in their research skills.
62 posted on 03/28/2004 9:12:58 AM PST by Peach
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To: Pan_Yan
ping
63 posted on 03/28/2004 9:14:03 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Much of your pain is self-chosen. --- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Peach
Found this story:

http://216.239.39.99/search?q=cache:dw7-fy2oJI0J:www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0302/S00079.htm+staff+vacations+9-11+%22clarke+%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

"The heightened alert followed a July 5 high-level official meeting convened in the White House Situation Room by Richard Clarke, head of counter-terrorism at the NSC. In a May 2002 account, The Washington Post reported:


"Something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it's going to happen soon," the government's top counter-terrorism official, Richard Clarke, told the assembled group, according to two of those present. The group included the Federal Aviation Administration, along with the Coast Guard, FBI, Secret Service and Immigration and Naturalization Service.
Clarke directed every counter-terrorist office to cancel vacations, defer non-vital travel, put off scheduled exercises and place domestic rapid-response teams on much shorter alert. For six weeks last summer, at home and overseas, the U.S. government was at its highest possible state of readiness -- and anxiety -- against imminent terrorist attack.

That intensity -- defensive in nature -- did not last. By the time Bush received his briefing at his ranch in Crawford, Tex., on Aug. 6, the government had begun to stand down from the alert." [Id.]"
64 posted on 03/28/2004 9:14:16 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: backhoe
Thanks, backhoe. You are an incredible researcher. Just incredible.
65 posted on 03/28/2004 9:16:06 AM PST by Peach
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To: backhoe
Amazing...Clarke sets into motion the big defensive push - then it peaks too early....by design?
66 posted on 03/28/2004 9:23:43 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Peach

67 posted on 03/28/2004 9:24:23 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: truthandlife
If you ask me, I think Saddam was in on it, and I think the Bush administration has a lot of proof that has yet to come out.
68 posted on 03/28/2004 9:28:36 AM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: truthandlife
"Saddam's threats of a 9/11-style attack before 9/11 weren't limited to that single report. In 1992, his son Uday used an editorial in Babil, the newspaper he ran, to warn of Iraqi kamikaze attacks inside America, saying, "Does the United States realize the meaning of every Iraqi becoming a missile that can cross countries and cities?""


It would be nice to have this reported 'everywhere'..
69 posted on 03/28/2004 9:31:33 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: All
http://www.intellnet.org/news/?type=category&value=Ahmad%20Shah%20Masood

Ahmed Shah Masood was aware of 9/11 attacks’ plan: CNN

Date: 2003-11-07 Posted By: Dan Sale

Topics: Ahmad Shah Masood : World Trade Center Attack : Afghanistan

Slain Afghan leader Ahmed Shah Masood had some reports of 9/11 attacks and he wanted to inform the west about it, a US TV channel, CNN reported. According to the Pentagon’s Defence Intelligence Agency, assassinated Afghan opposition leader Ahmed Shah Masood had "limited knowledge" of a planned attack against the United States and was warning the West of the threat.

Region: Americas Read It At: PakTribune (Mirrored Copy)

http://www.intellnet.org/news/2003/11/07/21477-1.html?PHPSESSID=5e8ac4cb58ca2c826edb0129ebeebc88


Ahmed Shah Masood was aware of 9/11 attacks’ plan: CNN

Ahmed Shah Masood was aware of 9/11 attacks’ plan: CNN

Friday November 07, 2003 (1515 PST)

ATLANTA, November 08 (Online): Slain Afghan leader Ahmed Shah Masood had some reports of 9/11 attacks and he wanted to inform the west about it, a US TV channel, CNN reported. According to the Pentagon’s Defence Intelligence Agency, assassinated Afghan opposition leader Ahmed Shah Masood had "limited knowledge" of a planned attack against the United States and was warning the West of the threat.

Northern Alliance leader Ahmed Shah Massoud was slain on September 9, 2001 by hiding a bomb in video camera. Two Tunisian al-Qaeda members impersonated as journalists killed Masood in a suicide attack. A Pentagon report got from the US national security archives said that Ahmed Shah Masood had got some information about the 9/11 attack through secret reports and he wanted to inform the US about it.

The cable, written in November 2001, was obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the National Security Archive at George Washington University in Washington, D.C. It was based on an interview with a classified source and reads:

"Through Northern Alliance intelligence efforts, the late commander Massoud gained limited knowledge regarding the intentions of the Saudi millionaire, Osama bin Laden and his terrorist Organisation, al-Qaeda, to perform a terrorist act against the U S, on a scale larger than the 1998 bombing of the U S embassies in Kenya and Tanzania."

The heavily edited DIA document does not specify what it meant by "limited knowledge," and the portion that follows the reference is blacked out. It continues by referring to a speech Massoud gave to the European Parliament in April 2001 in which the cable says he "warned the US government" about bin Laden. Massoud was on a diplomatic trip to Europe seeking financial support for his cause from the EU and individual countries.

The DIA report points out that Massoud was not a military threat to al Qaeda, even though his forces were fighting the Taliban for control of Afghanistan.

"Our investigators did look into the matter during their recent travels [to Afghanistan] and spoke to persons who might have some knowledge about the subject," said a spokesman for the independent commission set up by Congress to investigate the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The cable says the two fake journalists, who were killed in the bomb blast, were al Qaeda operatives.

According to an article in Voice of Jihad, an online magazine the Middle East Media Research Institute says is associated with al Qaeda, the terrorist group claimed responsibility for Massoud’s assassination.

The story appeared last week in a translated version of the magazine on the Web site of the Washington-based nonprofit independent institute, which provides translations of Arabic, Farsi and Hebrew media reports and analyses of trends in the region.

The article quoted an interview with a bin Laden bodyguard after word reached bin Laden’s camp of Massoud’s death:

"I remember asking him, ‘What happened?’ And he replied by saying that Sheikh Osama [bin Laden] asked the brothers: ‘Who will take it upon himself to deal with Ahmad [Shah] Massoud for me, because he harmed Allah and his sons?’ A few brothers volunteered to assassinate Massoud and be rewarded by Allah, and you heard the good news."

Several Tunisian men were convicted in Belgium in September of supplying false documents that Massoud’s assassins used to help them travel to Afghanistan.

70 posted on 03/28/2004 9:36:01 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: truthandlife
""The American peoples should remember that no one ever crossed the Atlantic carrying weapons to be used against them."

1776?
1812?
1944?
2001?

71 posted on 03/28/2004 9:38:38 AM PST by elfman2
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To: All

What did Clarke know about Massoud's message and when did he know it?


72 posted on 03/28/2004 9:41:49 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
"Through Northern Alliance intelligence efforts, the late commander Massoud gained limited knowledge regarding the intentions of the Saudi millionaire, Osama bin Laden and his terrorist Organisation, al-Qaeda, to perform a terrorist act against the U S, on a scale larger than the 1998 bombing of the U S embassies in Kenya and Tanzania."

The heavily edited DIA document does not specify what it meant by "limited knowledge," and the portion that follows the reference is blacked out. It continues by referring to a speech Massoud gave to the European Parliament in April 2001 in which the cable says he "warned the US government" about bin Laden. Massoud was on a diplomatic trip to Europe seeking financial support for his cause from the EU and individual countries.

73 posted on 03/28/2004 9:48:40 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
The heavily edited DIA document does not specify what it meant by "limited knowledge," and the portion that follows the reference is blacked out.

Did this document ever cross Clarke's desk?

74 posted on 03/28/2004 9:51:37 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: truthandlife
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75 posted on 03/28/2004 9:53:35 AM PST by Mixer
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To: Fun Bob
News here:

Report Details Saddam's Support for Terrorists Who Killed Americans

The above link is the FreeRepublic discussion thread.

The actual article is :

"Saddam Hussein’s Philanthropy of Terror"

It is a pdf document with substantial footnotes and put together by Dewey Murdock of the Hudson Institute.

76 posted on 03/28/2004 9:59:32 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: truthandlife

Anyone have more info on this picture of a mural of the 9/11 tragedy that was taken in Iraq?

77 posted on 03/28/2004 10:02:22 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: syriacus
Considering the Chinese plane incident (4/2001) was still fresh, I would say they were on top of things!
78 posted on 03/28/2004 10:09:58 AM PST by rock58seg (Character and integrity do count. BUSH/CHENEY 04)
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To: Agnes Heep
It would have been highly irresponsible for the administration not to have suspected Iraqi involvement in 9/11.

Bingo!

And this exposes the true scandal at the heart of Richard Clarke's revelations: Richard Clarke's own mind-set. He was ready to dismiss even the POSSIBILITY of Iraqi involvement, a single day after the attacks. He stood there on 9/12/2001 and told the President that because "Al Qaeda did this", looking for Iraqi fingerprints was unwarranted.

This arrogant, closed-minded man was a menace and I'm just glad he's out of public service.

79 posted on 03/28/2004 10:21:02 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: AmishDude
Al Qaeda was not exactly a secret organization and had done several anti-Western attacks in the past. Of course Saddam would praise them.

But, they were a RELIGIOUS organization, and Saddam was SECULAR. I've always been told that Saddam therefore HATED Al Qaeda! /sarcasm

Saddam's behavior after 9/11, though, doesn't suggest anything to me. If he'd known, he would have either bragged or tried to hide that he knew.

Appears to have been the latter, doesn't it?

80 posted on 03/28/2004 10:30:44 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: All
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81 posted on 03/28/2004 10:44:35 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Dr. Frank fan
We should be asking Senator Kerry what HE HAS DONE to keep America safe from terrorism.
82 posted on 03/28/2004 10:52:33 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Reb Raider
This is all so stupid. Frank Sinatra!!!

The Dictators have been warning us and everyone for 50 years.

We the US, has been about to invade Cuba, the DPRK and Iraq every week for 20 years. Read their pubs.
83 posted on 03/28/2004 11:22:40 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: truthandlife
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84 posted on 03/28/2004 11:39:17 AM PST by VOA
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To: js1138
Clarke could have prevented 911 if he had been paying attention to Iraq instead of trying to track Bin Laden!

Good point. PerhapsClarke has been on the offensive against Bush, hoping to distract the public from realizing this.

85 posted on 03/28/2004 12:07:15 PM PST by syriacus (2001: The Daschle-Schumer Gang obstructed Bush's attempts to organize his administration -->9/11)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
This arrogant, closed-minded man was a menace and I'm just glad he's out of public service.

Clarke is a monomaniacal megalomaniac.

86 posted on 03/28/2004 12:15:25 PM PST by syriacus (2001: The Daschle-Schumer Gang obstructed Bush's attempts to organize his administration -->9/11)
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To: MindBender26
I am not quite sure I understand what you are saying, but let me guess and correct me if I am misunderstanding your point. If you are saying that dictators and terrorists make threats and promises to kill us all the time I would agree with that.

Saddam and sons were fascinated with American products,porn,movies,etc. as found in their palaces and love nests. I am sure he thought the Sinatra reference was clever.In Iraq, because of the time warp they were in compared to America, what sounds silly to us is normal big dictator or terrorists talk to them. None of what they say sounds like a conversation you would hear in America.

I don't see how you can read that state sponsored article just a few months before 9/11 and think it's just the standard rhetoric because it points to too many things that did occur on 9/11. Those 9/11 families won their case against Saddam/Iraq for a reason, but that's just my opinion. I gotta go get a life now because I've been on FR all night. Ha. Have a good day.
87 posted on 03/28/2004 12:29:37 PM PST by Reb Raider
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To: syriacus; js1138
Agree with both of you wholeheartedly. js1138's one sentence is the best one liner I read all night and morning and I agree with you syriacus that Clarke is deflecting the criticism that was sure to come his way just like the dems in the Senate did with the Senate Judiciary letters showing their corruption.

If I could only have one wish if Bush gets reelected it would be to clean out all these old holdovers or move them out of important positions. These people in the CIA,State Dept, and like Clarke in the WH all disagree with Bush's policies and have done everything they can to thwart him. They just don't get it--we didn't elect them,and they need to leave if they cannot keep their trap shut and do their job well. Their kumbaya policies got us deep into this mess and we want to try some kick your enemies as* policies now and see if that works better. Ok, time to get some sleep after a FR read a thon.
88 posted on 03/28/2004 12:52:55 PM PST by Reb Raider
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To: truthandlife
http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95001120

The Iraqi Connection
Did Osama bin Laden act alone? Not likely.

BY LAURIE MYLROIE
Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:01 a.m. EDT

Whether Osama bin Laden was involved in Tuesday's terrorist assault remains to be seen. Yet if that proves to be so, it is extremely unlikely that he acted on his own. It is far more likely that he operated in conjunction with a state--the state with which the U.S. remains at war, namely Iraq.

First, bin Laden's Afghan-based al-Qaeda organization does not really have the organizational capabilities to carry out such well-coordinated attacks. Someone had to understand how to smuggle weapons through U.S. airport security and which airports and airlines to choose. The hijacked planes were flown by terrorists as they crashed into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon. Where did these pilots come from?

During the recently completed trial for the 1998 African embassy bombings, a story emerged of bin Laden's attempt to acquire a pilot and airplane. He turned to an Egyptian, Essam Rida, who had previously been involved in the fighting in Afghanistan, but had since settled in the U.S. Rida purchased a mothballed jet in 1993, refurbished it and flew it to the Sudanese capital of Khartoum, then returned home. Some months later, al-Qaeda called him back to Khartoum to take some passengers to Nairobi. Apparently, no one else could fly the plane.

At year's end, he was called back again. The plane had not been maintained and was in terrible condition. Rida nonetheless took it out on a test flight. When he landed the plane, the brakes failed, so he drove it into a sand dune on the edge of the landing strip and left it there. Indeed, following the conclusion of that trial, the New York Times noted the discrepancy between the image of al-Qaeda as a fearsome terrorist organization and the reality of a group that was "at times slipshod, torn by inner strife, betrayal, greed."

Moreover, the trial revealed that al-Qaeda was intimately connected to at least one foreign intelligence agency: Sudan's. In 1991, Sudanese intelligence approached bin Laden, then based in Afghanistan, and invited him to move to Khartoum, which he did. The government's star witness--who defected from al-Qaeda in 1996--also worked for Sudanese intelligence. The information that emerged in the trial about the close ties between bin Laden and the Sudanese government helps explain why the U.S. also struck Khartoum, in addition to bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan, in retaliation for the embassy bombings.

Yet although the trial detailed close ties between Sudanese intelligence and al-Qaeda, they were not portrayed as especially significant. Instead attention focused on the individual wrongdoers, some of them in the dock, others still on the lam. Presumably, that is because a prosecutor cannot indict and convict a state, or at least not so easily. Thus, the trial distorted the public understanding of bin Laden's terrorism to make it appear to be a "stateless" phenomenon.

States have far more capabilities for terrorist actions than do individuals. They control territory; maintain embassies abroad; regularly transfer material in diplomatic pouches, secure from outside probing; and often have very large intelligence agencies.

And al-Qaeda's demonstrated ties to Sudanese intelligence raise another question. Iraq has close ties to Sudan. Sudan supported Iraq during the Gulf War and subsequently established Khartoum as a major center for Iraqi intelligence. Abd al Samad al-Ta'ish, a highly placed Iraqi intelligence agent, was Iraq's ambassador to Khartoum until the summer of 1998. Al-Ta'ish arrived in Khartoum in July 1991 with 35 other intelligence officers to establish a base for Iraqi operations in the wake of the upheaval wrought by the Gulf War.

Was al-Qaeda also in contact with Iraqi intelligence while it was based in Khartoum? The months preceding the Aug. 7, 1998, embassy bombings are suggestive. The bombings occurred during Saddam's campaign to drive the United Nations weapons inspectors (known as Unscom) out of Iraq. Starting in the fall of 1997, Baghdad orchestrated a series of crises that had the effect, a year later, of ending Unscom's presence there.

Following the "resolution" of the second crisis, in late February 1998, through the mediation of U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, bin Laden began to issue a series of bloody-minded threats against Americans. Soon Baghdad was issuing its own threats, asserting that its proscribed weapons of mass destruction had been eliminated and demanding that sanctions be lifted.

The threats issued by bin Laden, the threats issued by Iraq, and the preparations for the bombing all moved in virtual lockstep. On Aug. 3, 1998, Unscom chairman Richard Butler arrived in Baghdad. The Iraqis demanded that he declare Iraq in compliance or leave immediately. Mr. Butler departed the next day. The following day, Aug. 5, Baghdad declared "suspension day"--that is, the suspension of weapons inspections. It restated its previous threats, affirming, "To those against whom war is made, permission is given to fight."

Two days later, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed simultaneously. Initial media speculation focused on Iraq, but as luck would have it, one of those involved in the bombing, Muhammad Sadek Odeh, was already in the custody of Pakistani authorities. He had flown into Karachi on a false passport that was so ill-suited to his likeness that he was detained at the airport and subject to a harsh interrogation. U.S. authorities soon had critical evidence linking bin Laden to the attacks.

Yet that information did not address the question of whether Iraq might also have been involved, as its harsh threats and the crisis over Unscom had seemed to suggest. Indeed, the possibility of Iraqi involvement was probably a line of inquiry that the Clinton White House was not interested in pursuing--although it could have been legitimately asked whether bin Laden alone really had the capability to carry out simultaneous bombings of two major U.S. targets.

One reason so many in the U.S. bureaucracies believe that bin Laden is the greatest terrorist threat to America--and, therefore, quite possibly behind Tuesday's attacks--is the wealth of signals intelligence they pick up about al-Qaeda's plotting. That intelligence leads to repeated alerts about possible attacks on U.S. targets, including an alert last June, which caused U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf and Jordan to put to sea.

It is somewhat surprising that the U.S. can regularly pick up so much information about bin Laden's planning, but miss the signs of Tuesday's attack. Is it possible that deception--a common practice in war--is involved? Is the U.S. meant to pick up those communications, thereby reinforcing a disposition to believe that the terrorism is being carried out by al-Qaeda and not by an enemy state?

There is plenty of precedent for such actions. In World War II, prior to the Allied landing at Normandy, an elaborate deception campaign was conducted to make the Germans believe that the allies would attack elsewhere. That included the creation of a fake "First Army" in Britain, which appeared poised to attack at Pas de Calais. False signals were a critical element of that deception.

Similarly, the U.S. used fake communications prior to the start of the Gulf War to make the Iraqis believe that it would attack their forces up through Kuwait, while radio silence was maintained in the area where the real attack--far off to the west--would come.

It does not make a great deal of sense to attribute to one man--Osama bin Laden--all the acts of terrorism which are regularly ascribed to him, including Tuesday's assault. It is time to take a new look at the major terrorists acts of terrorism directed against the U.S. in recent years. Are they, perhaps, more complicated than they seem? Indeed, are they acts of war, with all the complexity that wartime activities regularly involve?

Ms. Mylroie is author of "Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War Against America" (American Enterprise Institute, 2000).

See also
http://meib.org/articles/0106_ir1.htm
89 posted on 03/28/2004 1:52:46 PM PST by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: Reb Raider
If I could only have one wish if Bush gets reelected it would be to clean out all these old holdovers or move them out of important positions

Sounds good to me, too.

90 posted on 03/28/2004 2:04:11 PM PST by syriacus (2001: The Daschle-Schumer Gang obstructed Bush's attempts to organize his administration -->9/11)
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To: sully777
Great find
91 posted on 03/28/2004 2:28:06 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Reb Raider
How could one find the 'references" and not believe that they forewarned of 9/11?

It's very simple. Look back in Iraqi public circuit output and you will find threats against everyone and everything. Same with Cuba, DPRK, etc.

It's like the line from "On The Beach;" "Sit enough monkeys in front of enough typewriters and eventually, one will write the Gettysburg Address." (paraphrased)

Backward looks, called retro-analysis is dangerous. For example, did you know that every serial killer in American history both ate mashed potatoes as a child AND once saw a fatal car wreck, live on on TV? Did you know that?

Proves mashed potatoes and watching car wrecks turns you into a serial killer, doesn't it.

BTW, Just before the Normandy landings, one Sunday, the "London Times" crossword puzzle had the words Sword, Omaha, Gold and Overlord as correct answers in the puzzle.

All coincidence.
92 posted on 03/28/2004 7:34:56 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Jean-Luc Picard
Hear hear...finally someone who is able to not only read but also understand what is written...
and I thought that my school english would lead me into misinterpreting what I read...

Every country warned America of terror attacks to come...

Is Blair guilty of comiiting the attacks, or the Suad regime or any other....

They all warned America of the attacks, some even went so far as to warn of highjackings...

95 posted on 03/29/2004 3:22:55 AM PST by sibbel
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To: Jean-Luc Picard
Jean-Luc out!

Apparently, your reticence on the articles I cited (scores more available if you wish) underscores your newness to the FR, your unflinching bias towards the subject, or your hesitance of tackling the counter-argument.
96 posted on 03/29/2004 9:22:45 AM PST by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: AgThorn
I haven't found any specific commentary on the mural you posted. However, this mural is briefly explained by The Boston Globe:

Major General Buford ''Buff'' Blount, commander of the Third Infantry Division, stood in the middle of a dusty parade ground yesterday at a militia training center, billows of black smoke rising behind him from yet another destroyed target of Iraqi resistance. As Blount watched, his soldiers unfurled a large mural they had discovered at the facility. There, in vibrant hues, a beaming image of Saddam Hussein, victory cigar in hand, had been painted beside a rendering of the World Trade Center at the awful moment of attack. ''God protect Saddam and Iraq,'' the artist inscribed in Arabic.

The sprawling training center for the Quds Regiment, the Iraqi equivalent of the US National Guard, had other evidence of the vitriolic hatred that Hussein reserves for his enemies. In an indoor shooting range, paper targets showed drawings of a human face, fangs protruding from the mouth, a Star of David on the forehead.

Outside, on the fringes of the parade ground, other targets had been painted on posts. This time, some of the images were of children.

Blount watched in silence, waving his hand dismissively at the mural when a reporter questioned him about this depiction of glee at an American tragedy. Blount offered no stock expressions of anger.

"We've still got some fighting to do," said Blount. "It's still a tough neighborhood here."

97 posted on 03/29/2004 9:55:14 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Jean-Luc Picard
So a crappy Star ship captain is also a crappy analyst. Osama has been working with Iraq for years no matter what the disinformation specialists would have you believe about the secular/religious split. Information out of Iraq since the war shows that conclusively.

There have been massive amounts of information released showing the prior involvement of Iraq and terrorist organizations across the globe INCLUDING Al Queda. There were AQ groups operating with Saddam's sanction in Iraq. There were terrorist training campst set up in Iraq at which AQ terrorists were trained (and kept away from the Iraqis.) Iraqi diplomatic personnel have been kicked out of several countries because of their ties to bin Laden's group. How did this fact elude such a craptacular analyst as YOU?
There was Iraqi involvement with the first WTC attack in providing passports and then sanctuary after the act. Quite likely Iraqi involvement with the Oklahoma City bombing.

Clarke the Liar even admitted the latter in his book.

Unfortunately for your hope there was no actionable information that AQ was going to use airliners in NYC on 9/11 and there is no question that Bush ramped up the war on AQ and terrorism to a far greater degree than Clinton ever did. All attempts to undermine Bush are the work of LIARS in conjunction with the RATmedia. Not "democratic media" but RATmedia is the proper term.

There are huge differences between the RAT party and the GOP and those who can't understand that are of little use to anyone. Blathering on about socialists parties does nothing but point out the ignorance of the blatherer. Hints that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor are also indicative of such ignorance.

Admit it you are Howard Dean aren't you?
98 posted on 03/29/2004 10:07:00 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: sibbel
Apparently, along with the crappy starship captain, you are unfamiliar with the story of the boy who cried Wolf. Maybe you should familiarize yourself with it before praising those ignorant of the realities of world politics.

Those who are not dumbasses know that warnings of "highjackings" prior to 9/11 only meant highjackings NOT suicide dives into buildings. Highjackings were nothing new nor anything anyone would have believed to be part of using planes as weapons of mass destruction.

There were no actionable warnings as to what was to occur on 9/11 no matter what the RATmedia liars or the Captain of the starship Dumbass would have you believe.
99 posted on 03/29/2004 10:13:51 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Arkie2
What makes you think that the Bush administration hasn't pointed this out before the 9/11 commission? Because Benveniste hasn't leaked it?
100 posted on 03/29/2004 10:20:57 AM PST by Eva
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