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NEW! bill clinton talks (Virtual deconstruction of a virtual prez) (clinton admission, Clarke, etc.)
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CLINTON TURNED DOWN SUDAN'S OFFERS OF BIN LADEN HEAR CLINTON'S SECRETLY TAPED "ADMISSION" NOW
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"The Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden]. At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan." bill clinton Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002 Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio: I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer
- "The instant that second plane hit, I said to the person with whom I was speaking, 'Bin Laden did this.' I knew immediately. I know what this network can do."
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- To hear Clinton now say "We must do more to reduce the pool of potential terrorists" is thus beyond farce. He had numerous opportunities to reduce that pool, and he blew it.
A Fish Rots from the Head Investor's Business Daily
- Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize MANSOOR IJAZ December 5, 2001
isten carefully to clinton's "admission." Watch the flash movie. Diagram the sentences.
It's the classic clinton snake-oil sales pitch that exploits liberal credulousness and the gestalt concepts of structural economy and closure (the tendency to perceive incomplete forms as complete). This allows clinton to tell the story of his utter failure to fight terrorism, his failure to take bin Laden from Sudan, his repeated failures, in fact, to decapitate an incipient and still stoppable al Qaeda, without explicitly admitting it.
"The Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again; [so] they released him [to America]." Note that the linkage between the above two sentences and the indirect object of the second sentence are each implied, giving clinton plausible deniability. "[H]e had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America." This position is surprising on two counts:
- clinton has never been one to allow the rule of law get in his way.
- Although bin Laden had repeatedly declared war on America during clinton's tenure, clinton treats terrorism not as a war but as a law enforcement problem, which, by definition is defensive, after-the-fact and fatally-too-late.
The impeached ex-president fails to understand that when terrorists declare war on you
and then proceed to kill you
you are, perforce, at war. At that point, you really have only one decision to make: Do you fight the terrorists
or do you surrender? It is worth noting that the final phrase, "though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America," is clinton's explicit rejection of the (Bush) doctrine of preemption to fight terrorism. The endpoint of this 8-year clinton blunder was, of course, 9/11.
- ASIDE: It is beyond farce, therefore, for Richard Clarke to exalt clinton, whose response to terrorism was feckless, at best, even as he attempts to take down Bush, a great president whose demonstrated vision, courage and tenacity in the face of seditious undermining by the power-hungry clintons and their leftist goons is nothing short of heroic.
"So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato." Finally, this last paragraph underscores clinton's penchant for passing off the tough problems (and the buck) to others. It would have been a simple matter for him to take bin Laden. Why did he turn the offer down? The answer was somewhat inadvertently provided by Madeleine Albright at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do nothing--only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily]. According to Albright, a sham Mideast accord would yield [, if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton [an unprincipled fraud whose only significance is the devastation that he (and his zipper-hoisted spinoff) have wreaked on America]. |
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Mia T
- CLARKE WITNESSED FIRST-HAND THE CLINTONS' UTTER FAILURE TO FIGHT TERRORISM
- "If Clarke's plan had been implemented,
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a clear act of war, militarily instead of telephonically!]
- al Qaeda's infrastructure would have been demolished and bin Laden might well have been killed.
Sept. 11, 2001 might have been just another sunny day"
- [The real question that requires answering is this:
Why did this legacy-obsessed president
miss numerous golden opportunities,
beginning with the WTC bombing in '93,
to defeat terrorism,
(in its incipient stage and stoppable in '93)
which would have secured his legacy for all time?
Was it simple stupidity and lack of vision?
Or was it also that familiar demagogic refrain:
cowardice, infantilism, megalomania...
and the Nobel Peace Prize?]
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Lopez: What exactly was U.S. reaction to the attack on the USS Cole? Miniter: In October 2000, al Qaeda bombed the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen. Seventeen sailors were killed in the blast. The USS Cole was almost sunk. In any ordinary administration, this would have been considered an act of war. After all, America entered the Spanish-American war and World War I when our ships were attacked.
Counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke had ordered his staff to review existing intelligence in relation to the bombing of the USS Cole. After that review, he and Michael Sheehan, the State Department's counterterrorism coordinator, were convinced it was the work of Osama bin Laden. The Pentagon had on-the-shelf, regularly updated and detailed strike plans for bin Laden's training camps and strongholds in Afghanistan. At a meeting with Secretary of Defense William Cohen, Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Attorney General Janet Reno, and other staffers, Clarke was the only one in favor of retaliation against bin Laden. Reno thought retaliation might violate international law and was therefore against it. Tenet wanted to more definitive proof that bin Laden was behind the attack, although he personally thought he was. Albright was concerned about the reaction of world opinion to a retaliation against Muslims, and the impact it would have in the final days of the Clinton Middle East peace process. Cohen, according to Clarke, did not consider the Cole attack "sufficient provocation" for a military retaliation. Michael Sheehan was particularly surprised that the Pentagon did not want to act. He told Clarke: "What's it going to take to get them to hit al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Does al Qaeda have to attack the Pentagon?" Instead of destroying bin Laden's terrorist infrastructure and capabilities, President Clinton phoned twice phoned the president of Yemen demanding better cooperation between the FBI and the Yemeni security services. If Clarke's plan had been implemented, al Qaeda's infrastructure would have been demolished and bin Laden might well have been killed. Sept. 11, 2001 might have been just another sunny day. Clinton's Loss? How the previous administration fumbled on bin Laden. A Q&A by Kathryn Jean Lopez NRO September 11, 2003, 11:45 a.m.
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And as for Clarke's book, a disgruntled ex-employee's abrupt 180, suffice it to say Simon & Schuster published it, 60 Minutes and CBS promoted it and the parent company, Viacom, and its friends on the political left, from the clintons to Kerry, have in the past, and will in the future, "profit" from it.
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- Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs; Hillary is getting $8 million dollars for hers, for a total of $20 million. Not bad for a couple that for eight years swore under oath they couldn't remember anything.
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- YOO-HOO missus clinton
A '68 Mustang is not exculpatory
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HALF A HOUSE, HALF A BRAIN: Why the clintons hit on Simon & SchusterThe 30 Seconds that Seemed Like 60 Minutes:
clinton Pats Own Back Preemptively for Bush's Certain Military Success
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illary clinton's equal and inapposite reactions seem to be, at first blush, instances of the immutable First Law of The Betrayed and Humiliated Wife: Outdo the errant hubby's doxy...at all cost.
Thus, Vanity Fair's glamorous Marilyn-Monroe spread of Monica's digitally reduced spread was answered by Vogue's lushly Elizabethan, gauzy-focus, hindquarter-cropped-pleated-and-flounced, Queen-hillary-for-President cover. And now we have hillary clinton doing a Martha Stewart, who herself, is purported to have been "done" by the aforementioned errant rogue (notwithstanding the plain fact that Martha is more well-known for her tarts than for being one). Seems hillary clinton is now writing a book titled "An Invitation to the White House" in which she will follow the format of the Martha Stewart classic, "Entertaining", claim multifarious Martha-Stewart talents and wrap her indecorous and corrupt, backwoods, backroom style of White House "entertaining" in Martha-Stewart elegance and purity. (NB: Written years before Martha ImPloded.) "The clinton White House has been noted for the...innovation of its events," said Carolyn Reidy, president of Simon & Schuster's (aptly named) Trade Division, the book's publisher. hillary clinton's spokeswoman, Marsha Berry, added that the book will focus on how the clintons have "advanced the availability" of the White House by increasing the number and diversity of people; that it will "highlight the access that the clintons have given to more people, more types of entertainment..." It should be emphasized that it was without even a trace of irony or the slightest smirk that both women related the above. On closer inspection, hillary clinton's bizarre behavior is more than simple Ivana Trump-eting. It is vulgar, compulsive, shameless, smarmy, contemptuous, demagogic, megalomaniacal, in-your-face naked clintonism. It is one thing for the frumpy, chipmunk-cheek, huge-hindquarter fishwife to insinuate her image -- albeit Elizabethan-shrouded and low-res-clouded -- onto the cover of Vogue; but it is quite another for the corrupt harpy to trumpet White House access even as new charges emerge of the clintons' rapes and other predations, of the clintons' corrupt quid-pro-quo arrangements with a menacing and motley assortment of drug dealers, gun runners and nuclear weapons makers. For hillary clinton to vaunt White House access just as the clintons' China treason is becoming increasingly, patently manifest to all requires a certain level of contempt for the people and for the country that is uniquely clinton. Thank heaven for small favors... Or as the real Martha Stewart would say, "That is a good thing."
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NOTE THE CBS--SIMON & SCHUSTER CONNECTION
3.20.04 ALERT!
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme team
is reactivated and in high gear...
- Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.
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Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering, by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)
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hillary talks: ON TERROR
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Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history. Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize MANSOOR IJAZ December 5, 2001
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A Fish Rots from the Head Investor's Business Daily Ijaz, an admitted Clinton supporter who helped negotiate these opportunities to nab bin Laden, said, "The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening." Ijaz says that three months before bin Laden's men blew up the USS Cole in Yemen, he "brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings (in Tanzania and Kenya)... But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer." Clinton's apparent boredom with vital information extended beyond Sudanese intelligence officers to his own intelligence officers. His first CIA director, James Woolsey, couldn't get a meeting with Clinton in the two years he served. Woolsey left the Clinton administration disgusted with its slovenly approach to national security. ... To hear Clinton now say "We must do more to reduce the pool of potential terrorists" is thus beyond farce. He had numerous opportunities to reduce that pool, and he blew it. The pool, in fact, grew larger on Clinton's watch, as he spent his final days giving pardons to drug dealers, Puerto Rican terrorists and Marc Rich, a fugitive who topped America's most-wanted list.
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hillary talks: ON MILITARY TACTICS The Easy Part
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INTERVIEW Osama bin Laden (may 1998)
- In the first part of this interview which occurred in May 1998, a little over two months before the U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama bin Laden answers questions posed to him by some of his followers at his mountaintop camp in southern Afghanistan. In the latter part of the interview, ABC reporter John Miller is asking the questions.
Describe the situation when your men took down the American forces in Somalia.
- After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging and all that noise it was making in the press after the Gulf War in which it destroyed the infrastructure and the milk and dairy industry that was vital for the infants and the children and the civilians and blew up dams which were necessary for the crops people grew to feed their families. Proud of this destruction, America assumed the titles of world leader and master of the new world order. After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers. America stopped calling itself world leader and master of the new world order, and its politicians realized that those titles were too big for them and that they were unworthy of them. I was in Sudan when this happened. I was very happy to learn of that great defeat that America suffered, so was every Muslim....
The American people, by and large, do not know the name bin Laden, but they soon likely will. Do you have a message for the American people?
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Lopez: In sum, how many times did Bill Clinton lose bin Laden? Miniter: Here's a rundown. The Clinton administration: 1. Did not follow-up on the attempted bombing of Aden marines in Yemen.2. Shut the CIA out of the 1993 WTC bombing investigation, hamstringing their effort to capture bin Laden. 3. Had Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a key bin Laden lieutenant, slip through their fingers in Qatar. 4. Did not militarily react to the al Qaeda bombing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 5. Did not accept the Sudanese offer to turn bin Laden. 6. Did not follow-up on another offer from Sudan through a private back channel. 7. Objected to Northern Alliance efforts to assassinate bin Laden in Afghanistan. 8. Decided against using special forces to take down bin Laden in Afghanistan. 9. Did not take an opportunity to take into custody two al Qaeda operatives involved in the East African embassy bombings. In another little scoop, I am able to show that Sudan arrested these two terrorists and offered them to the FBI. The Clinton administration declined to pick them up and they were later allowed to return to Pakistan. 10. Ordered an ineffectual, token missile strike against a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory. 11. Clumsily tipped off Pakistani officials sympathetic to bin Laden before a planned missile strike against bin Laden on August 20, 1998. Bin Laden left the camp with only minutes to spare. 12-14. Three times, Clinton hesitated or deferred in ordering missile strikes against bin Laden in 1999 and 2000. 15. When they finally launched and armed the Predator spy drone plane, which captured amazing live video images of bin Laden, the Clinton administration no longer had military assets in place to strike the archterrorist. 16. Did not order a retaliatory strike on bin Laden for the murderous attack on the USS Cole.

hillary talks:ON TERROR
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neo-neoliberalism n. neocommunist political movement, a tipsy-topsy, infantile perversion of the Marxist-Leninist model, global in scope, beginning in the post-cold-war, unipolar 1990s, led by the '60s neoliberal baby-boomer "intelligentsia," that seeks power without responsibility, i.e., that seeks to dilute American power by concentrating power in said '60s neoliberals while yielding America's sovereignty to the United Nations, i.e., while surrendering to the terrorists, as it continues the traditional '60s neoliberal feint, namely: (1) concern for social justice, (2) distain for bureaucracy, and (3) the championing of entrepreneurship for the great unwashed.
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The Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent2
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by Mia T, 4.6.03
- If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.
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Mia T, June 9, 1999 THE ALIENS
l From is sounding the alarm. "Unless we convince Americans that Democrats are strong on national security," he warns his party, "Democrats will continue to lose elections."
Helloooo? That the Democrats have to be spoon-fed what should be axiomatic post-9/11 is, in and of itself, incontrovertible proof that From's advice is insufficient to solve their problem. From's failure to fully lay out the nature of the Democrats' problem is not surprising: he is the guy who helped seal his party's fate. It was his Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) that institutionalized the proximate cause of the problem, clintonism, and legitimized its two eponymic provincial operators on the national stage. The "Third Way" and "triangulation" don't come from the same Latin root for no reason. That "convince" is From's operative word underscores the Democrats' dilemma. Nine-eleven was transformative. It is no longer sufficient merely to convince. One must demonstrate, demonstrate convincingly, if you will
which means both in real time and historically. When it comes to national security, Americans will no longer take any chances. Turning the turn of phrase back on itself, the era of the Placebo President is over. (Incidentally, the oft-quote out-of-context sentence fragment alluded to here transformed meaningless clinton triangulation into a meaningful if deceptive soundbite.) Although From is loath to admit it -- the terror in his eyes belies his facile solution -- the Democratic party's problem transcends its anti-war contingent. With a philosophy that relinquishes our national sovereignty -- and relinquishes it reflexively
and to the UN no less -- the Democratic party is, by definition, the party of national insecurity. With policy ruled by pathologic self-interest -- witness the "Lieberman Paradigm," Kerry's "regime change" bon mot (gone bad), Edwards' and the clintons' brazen echoes thereof (or, alternatively, Pelosi's less strident wartime non-putdown putdown)
and, of course, the clincher -- eight years of the clintons' infantilism, grotesquerie and utter failure -- the Democratic party is, historically and in real time, the party of national insecurity. The Democrats used to be able to wallpaper their national insecurity with dollars and demogoguery. But that was before 9/11.
addendum 12.13.03: Pathologic self-interest: Richard Miniter's C-SPAN interview, contained in hillary talks:ON TERROR, (below), is absolutely devastating for the clintons. Miniter presents the clintons' monumental failure to protect America in sickening detail.
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Note in particular Madeleine Albright's shocking reason given at the time of the USS Cole attack why the clinton administration should not respond militarily. It tell us everything we need to know about the clintons. It tell us why clinton redux is an absolutely suicidal notion. Notwithstanding their cowardice, corruption, perfidy, and to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, their essential cluelessness, the clintons, according to Albright, made their decision not to go after the terrorists primarily for reasons of their own legacy and power. The clintons reasoned that inaction would MAXIMIZE THEIR CHANCES TO RECEIVE THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. No matter that that inaction would also maximize the terrorists' power, maximize America's danger. |
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For more than a half decade, the Clinton administration was shoveling atomic secrets out the door as fast as it could, literally by the ton. Millions of previously classified ideas and documents relating to nuclear arms were released to all comers, including China's bomb makers. William J. Broad Spying Isn't the Only Way to Learn About Nukes, The New York Times, May 30, 1999
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Broad would have us believe we are watching "Being There" and not "The Manchurian Candidate." His argument is superficially appealing as most reasonable people would conclude that it requires the simplemindedness of a Chauncy Gardener (in "Being There") to reason that instructing China and a motley assortment of terrorist nations on how to beef up their atom bombs and how not to omit the "key steps" when building hydrogen bombs would somehow blunt and not stimulate their appetites for bigger and better bombs and a higher position in the power food chain. But it is Broad's failure to fully connect the dots -- clinton's wholesale release of atomic secrets, decades of Chinese money sluicing into clinton's campaigns, clinton's pushing of the test ban treaty, clinton's concomitant sale of supercomputers, and clinton's noxious legacy -- that blows his argument to smithereens and reduces his piece to just another clinton apologia by The New York Times. But even a Times apologia cannot save clinton from the gallows. Clinton can be both an absolute (albeit postmodern) moron and a traitor. The strict liability Gump-ism, "Treason is as treason does" applies. The idea that an individual can be convicted of the crime of treason only if there is treasonous intent or *mens rea* runs contrary to the concept of strict liability crimes. That doctrine (Park v United States, (1974) 421 US 658,668) established the principle of 'strict liability' or 'liability without fault' in certain criminal cases, usually involving crimes which endanger the public welfare. Calling his position on the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty "an historic milestone," (if he must say so himself) clinton believed that if he could get China to sign it, he would go down in history as the savior of mankind. This was 11 August 1995.
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(There would be an analogous treasonous miscalculation in the Mideast: clinton failed to shut down Muslim terrorism, then in its incipient stage and stoppable, because he reasoned that doing so would have wrecked his chances for the Nobel Peace Prize. Indeed, according to Richard Miniter, Madeleine Albright offered precisely the Nobel-Muslim factor as a primary reason for not treating the bombing of the USS Cole as an act of war.) |
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Mia T, 2.11.04 BUSH, THE CLINTONS + WMD PROLIFERATION: The REAL "Imminent Threat"
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It is precisely the clintons' bin-Laden-emboldening inaction to the attack on the USS Cole and the clintons' bin-Laden-emboldening token, ineffectual, August 1998 missile strikes of aspirin factories and empty tents that eliminate "bin-Laden-emboldenment avoidance" as the rationale for the latter decision and support "wag the dog," instead. Taken together, feckless clinton inaction and feckless clinton action serve only to reinforce the almost universally held notion: the clinton calculus was, is, and always will be, solely self-serving. In the case of the non-response to the attack on the Cole, an unambiguous act of war, the clinton rationale, according to no less than Madeleine Albright, was a clinton Nobel Peace Prize by Arab appeasement. i.e., a clinton Nobel Peace Prize by bin-Laden-emboldenment. And in the case of the curiously-timed, ineffectual (and, therefore, bin-Laden-emboldening) token missile strikes, the clinton rationale was Lewinsky-recantation distraction -- clearly not bin-Laden-emboldenment avoidance.
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Mia T, "WAG THE DOG" revisited
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THE CLINTONS--AMERICA'S BIGGEST BLUNDER
Hear Bush 41 Warn Us--October 19, 1992*
 hear *Thanx to Cloud William for text and audio
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LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir. PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ... On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision? And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word. And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America. (Applause) |
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THE INTERMINABLE clintons
- It's time to throw out the trash...
- A Senate en passant capture is THE MOVE...

Q ERTY6 utter failureBUMP
Lib Author Regrets Voting (TWICE!) for clinton
"Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America from Terrorism
MUST-READ BOOK FOR DEMOCRATS:
How clintons' Failures Unleashed Global Terror
(Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?)
The Man Who Warned America
(Why a Rapist is Not a Fit President)
UDAY: "The end is near
this time I think the
Americans are serious, Bush is not like Clinton."
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03/29/2004 1:36:12 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: jla
ping
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posted on
03/29/2004 1:36:54 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: WorkingClassFilth; jla; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; Slyfox; ...
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posted on
03/29/2004 2:02:14 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: nutmeg
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posted on
03/29/2004 3:12:45 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: FBD; Mudboy Slim; sultan88
fyi
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posted on
03/29/2004 4:05:23 PM PST
by
jla
To: ALOHA RONNIE
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posted on
03/29/2004 4:09:12 PM PST
by
jla
To: Carl/NewsMax; MeekOneGOP; Salem; stainlessbanner
fyi
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posted on
03/29/2004 4:23:10 PM PST
by
jla
To: jla
Never forget is right ! Great job on that 911 Memorial.
- Send every one of those SO*'s to their 72 Bubbas !!
- The Taliban is GONE ... Afghanistan has it's country back.
- Saddam sits in his prison cell awaiting his DESTINY and Iraq has it's country back again.
________________________________________________________

Lisa Beamer, widow of Todd Beamer, who died on United Airline Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvnia is applauded on Capitol Hill Thursday, Sept. 20, 2001 after being recognized by President Bush during his address before a joint session of Congress. (AP Photo/Kenneth Lambert)
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We have the Terrorists and we have those that would HELP the Terrorist:
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I'm voting for the one that would ELIMINATE the Terrorists/Terrorist threats ...


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posted on
03/29/2004 5:09:24 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: jla
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posted on
03/29/2004 5:14:23 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: Mia T
CHARISMATIC PSYCHOPATHS are charming, attractive liars. They are usually gifted at some talent or another, and they use it to their advantage in manipulating others. They are usually fast-talkers, and possess an almost demonic ability to persuade others out of everything they own, even their lives. They are irresistible.
What is more, this "need/want" perspective posits that only the "hunger" of the psychopath is valid, and anything and everything "out there," outside of the psychopath, is not real except insofar as it has the capability of being assimilated to the psychopath as a sort of "food."
They can be brilliant, write scholarly works, imitate the words of emotion, but over time, it becomes clear that their words do not match their actions. They are the type of person who can claim that they are devastated by grief who then attend a party "to forget." The problem is: they really DO forget
"Even when they are indifferent to the rights of their associates, they are often able to inspire feelings of trust and confidence."
They can also be Narcissists since Narcissism seems to be merely a "facet" of the psychopath. You could say that the Narcissist is a "garden variety psychopath" who, because of his or her "social programming," has less likelihood of running afoul of the law. In this way, they are very efficient "survival machines," living out their lives doing untold damage to their families, friends and business associates.
It is only when a person takes a long and careful look at the full-blown psychopath - a sort of exaggerated Narcissist - that they are able to see the caricature of the traits that then make it easier for them to identify the "garden variety" psychopath - the Narcissist.}
Cite- http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/psychopath.htm
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posted on
03/29/2004 5:16:20 PM PST
by
Helms
(A Kennedy Man Cuckolded - Turnabout Is Fairplay)
To: MeekOneGOP
Never forget is right ! Great job on that 911 Memorial.Well it is a great job, unfortunately I had nothing to do with it. The link is at the top of Aloha Ronnie's home pg.
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!
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posted on
03/29/2004 5:28:05 PM PST
by
jla
To: Mia T; generalissimoduane; RonDog; VietnamOdyssey; risk; onyx; Republic; Registered; Boston; ...
.
...Ever since September 12, 2001 we have been calling online and on Talk Radio/TV*...
...for MONSOOR IJAZ to be brought before a 9/11 Investigating Body to testify about the 3 OSAMA Offers he told us about on the FoX News Channel the day after the 9/11 Attacks.
...Deals that MONSOOR IJAZ had brokered with the Sudan to give us OSAMA bin LADEN on a Silver Platter during the 1990's before he could attack our homeland like he just had the day before.
...Deals that the CLINTON White House refused to accept and then went ahead and released other terrorists from jail instead.
Now is the time, MONSOOR.
Now is the time..!!!
*
Freerepublic.com Forum
Newsmax.com Forum
New York Times.com Forum
Los Angeles Times.com Forum
We Were SoldiersFILM.com Forum
The AlamoFILM.com Forum
C-SPAN TV
FoX News Channel TV
Judicial Watch Report Radio Show
Hugh Hewitt Radio Show
Bob Dornan Radio Show
George Putnam Radio Show
Larry Marino Radio Show
Two and a half years later...
JUSTICE is finally on its way.
.
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posted on
03/29/2004 6:48:57 PM PST
by
ALOHA RONNIE
(Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
To: jla
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS! Amen ! Yeah ! ...
The 4th Infantry undertook Operation Red Dawn to find Saddam.
They are based in Texas - Fort Hood.
They got their man - captured Saddam. "Don't mess with Texas!":
An Iraqi woman holds up handwritten signs to express her happiness
at the capture of Saddam Hussein !

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posted on
03/29/2004 7:30:49 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: MeekOneGOP
The 4th Infantry undertook Operation Red Dawn to find Saddam. They are based in Texas - Fort Hood.I didn't know that, but I am not the least bit surprised.
Coincidently, Meek, I'm watching a replay of Dem's Unity Dinner now. The lead-off speaker is Ann Richards. I'm not sure, but I think she may have had a couple stiff belts before the event.
She's not exactly cut from the same cloth as Laura Bush, is she.
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posted on
03/29/2004 7:39:10 PM PST
by
jla
To: jla
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:51:47 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the ping!
To: Mia T; rodeo-mamma; Pagey
Great work Mia!!
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:50:14 PM PST
by
Joy Angela
( Hitlery *is* The Bad Seed)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
The frenzy to get CONDOLEEZA RICE to testify is
meant to degrade our President by giving the Democrats
the power to "call out" whomever they choose.
The other motive is to degrade a potential female rival
that could square off (and expose) Hillary Clinton
when "Her Royal Commie" runs for President.
-The Conspiring Clintons-
An Evil only Satan could love.
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:58:29 PM PST
by
Joy Angela
( Hitlery *is* The Bad Seed)
To: Mia T
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posted on
03/29/2004 11:13:11 PM PST
by
Joy Angela
( Hitlery *is* The Bad Seed)
Comment #21 Removed by Moderator
Comment #22 Removed by Moderator
To: jla
ping
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posted on
03/30/2004 3:48:08 AM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Truth Bump!
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posted on
03/30/2004 6:34:08 AM PST
by
Joy Angela
( Hitlery *is* The Bad Seed)
bump
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posted on
03/30/2004 6:46:06 AM PST
by
jla
(http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com)
To: Joy Angela
bump
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posted on
03/30/2004 6:52:15 AM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: MeekOneGOP
That photo is great and how Kofi is positioned.
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posted on
03/30/2004 1:51:43 PM PST
by
Helms
(A Kennedy Man Cuckolded - Turnabout Is Fairplay)
To: Helms
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posted on
03/30/2004 2:00:28 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: MeekOneGOP
Oh yeah. Thou speakest the truth - verily.
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posted on
03/30/2004 7:30:26 PM PST
by
WorkingClassFilth
(DEFUND PBS & NPR - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
To: Mia T
Mia, you know that I admire your work...
However, this time you've missed the mark. Your virtual bill is much too slender. Your portrayal of his face and skull are thinner than that of the lean and healthy image of a frontier woodsman.
No, no, no.
Our bill is a bloated and corpulent visage. Like the popular image of Nero, our billy is a compendium of the worst of human behavior. A monster, if you will. He has the face of our national horrors - the cooked fish flesh of the dead and the wrinkled leer of the dirty old man. However, his is also a mug that is coarse and wide, reflecting a lifetime of gluttony and the exercise of evil. Yep. Our billy has a kisser that has muscle in the jaws ("...so much better to hold you while I rape you, my Dear" jaws). The bags under the eyes that bespeak a lifetime of vice and weakness. The airless environs in which his debauches occur leave traces of their pollution in his eyes and soul. His flabby, wrinkled and jowled face telegraphs the body beneath and the mind within.
In short, the man is a pig - portray him as such.
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posted on
03/30/2004 7:51:13 PM PST
by
WorkingClassFilth
(DEFUND PBS & NPR - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
To: WorkingClassFilth
I actually agree with you. I neglected the FIGURE-ative. ;)
The rapist has been working on the paunch of late; the old mug has slimmed down. And other than those huge bags, redundant flesh draping steely orbs and some under-neck looseness, he, unlike hillary. really isn't all that wrinkled. ( I wonder why they both have those massive bags, tho....)
But he does look too young and benign, especially in the still. I have to work on that. BTW, if you look at the initial virtual hillary, she suffered from the same problem. Not enough age, too much benign.
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posted on
03/31/2004 4:32:48 AM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Carl/NewsMax
real Pulitzer- quality great work bump
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posted on
03/31/2004 4:44:33 AM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
bump
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posted on
03/31/2004 5:48:03 AM PST
by
jla
Comment #34 Removed by Moderator
Comment #35 Removed by Moderator
To: jla; All
corrections, additions:
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CLINTON TURNED DOWN SUDAN'S OFFERS OF BIN LADEN HEAR CLINTON'S SECRETLY TAPED "ADMISSION" NOW
- by Mia T, 3.28.04
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"The Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden]. At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan." bill clinton Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002 Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio: I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer
- "The instant that second plane hit, I said to the person with whom I was speaking, 'Bin Laden did this.' I knew immediately. I know what this network can do."
bill clinton
- To hear Clinton now say "We must do more to reduce the pool of potential terrorists" is thus beyond farce. He had numerous opportunities to reduce that pool, and he blew it.
A Fish Rots from the Head Investor's Business Daily
- Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize MANSOOR IJAZ December 5, 2001
isten carefully to clinton's "admission." Watch the flash movie. Diagram the sentences.
It's the classic clinton snake-oil sales pitch that exploits liberal credulousness and the gestalt concepts of structural economy and closure (the tendency to perceive incomplete forms as complete). This allows clinton to tell the story of his utter failure to fight terrorism, his failure to take bin Laden from Sudan, his repeated failures, in fact, to decapitate an incipient and still stoppable al Qaeda, without explicitly admitting it.
"The Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again; [so] they released him [to America]." Note that the linkage between the above two sentences and the indirect object of the second sentence are each implied, giving clinton plausible deniability. "[H]e had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America." This position is surprising on two counts:
- clinton has never been one to allow the rule of law get in his way.
- Although bin Laden had repeatedly declared war on America during clinton's tenure, clinton treats terrorism not as a war but as a law enforcement problem, which, by definition is defensive, after-the-fact and fatally-too-late.
The impeached ex-president fails to understand that when terrorists declare war on you
and then proceed to kill you
you are, perforce, at war. At that point, you really have only one decision to make: Do you fight the terrorists
or do you surrender? Critical to the understanding of the clintons' (and Kerry's and the left's) inability to protect America from terrorism is the analysis of clinton's final phrase, "though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America." "though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America." This phrase is clinton's explicit rejection of both bin Laden's repeated declarations/acts of war and the (Bush) doctrine of preemption to fight terror. This phrase underscores clinton's failure to understand that:
- a terrorist war requires only one consenting player
- defining bin Laden's acts of war 'crimes'' is a dangerous, anachronistic, postmodern conceit (It doesn't depend on what the meaning of the word "war" is) and amounts to surrender
- preemption serves a necessary, critically protective, as well as offensive function in any war on terror.
The sorry endpoint of this massive, 8-year clinton blunder was, of course, 9/11 and the exponential growth of al Qaeda.
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"So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato." Finally, this last paragraph underscores clinton's penchant for passing off the tough problems (and the buck) to others (while arrogating their solutions as his own). It would have been a simple matter for him to take bin Laden. Why did he turn the offer down? The answer was inadvertently if somewhat obliquely provided by Madeleine Albright at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons--nothing--only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war]. According to Albright, a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [, if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton [an unprincipled fraud whose only significance is the devastation that he (and his zipper-hoisted spinoff) have wreaked on America]. |
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posted on
03/31/2004 1:25:54 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
bttt
37
posted on
04/01/2004 10:48:23 AM PST
by
Pagey
(Hillary Rotten is (still ) a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
To: jla; All
bump
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posted on
04/02/2004 6:31:30 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Pagey; All
39
posted on
04/02/2004 7:06:58 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: jla
bump
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posted on
04/03/2004 2:47:59 AM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: MeekOneGOP
bump
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posted on
04/03/2004 2:53:13 AM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: MeekOneGOP
great photo bump
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posted on
04/03/2004 2:54:17 AM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
43
posted on
04/03/2004 6:28:38 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
bttt
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posted on
04/03/2004 8:55:11 AM PST
by
jla
bttt
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posted on
04/04/2004 8:50:52 AM PDT
by
jla
To: jla
^
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posted on
04/04/2004 12:57:38 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: jla
^
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posted on
04/04/2004 7:02:38 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: jla; BARBRA; All
bump
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posted on
04/05/2004 4:39:15 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
bump
49
posted on
04/05/2004 11:57:24 AM PDT
by
jla
To: jla
bump
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posted on
04/05/2004 4:48:53 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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