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Cops: Major Change in Wisconsin Coed Mystery [Audrey Seiler]
Fox News Online ^ | 4/2/04 | AP

Posted on 04/02/2004 7:39:53 AM PST by TheBigB

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

MADISON, Wis. There has been a major change in the case of a college student who said a man abducted her at knifepoint and held her before she was found unharmed in a marsh days later, police said Friday.


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To: PureSolace
LOL

Ok. I'll pretend I didn't read it.
401 posted on 04/02/2004 3:44:21 PM PST by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( President Bush 3-20-04))
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To: BonneBlue
Maybe there's a cop in their office that she likes who rejected her. Girls DO stupid things sometimes. I really don't think she's sick. I've known lotsa straight A kids who were well liked....They all have "stupid" stories to tell.
402 posted on 04/02/2004 3:44:51 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: bonfire
Yes it is speculation at this point --- I'm just thinking of ways that the girl might not have done this out of evil intentions and maybe also isn't completely out of her mind needing to be locked up.
403 posted on 04/02/2004 3:57:59 PM PST by FITZ
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To: af_vet_1981
Yep, give all the perps, including her if she lied, a fair trial and a fast hanging (so to speak).

What happens if during the fair trial, the perp is adjudged not guilty?
404 posted on 04/02/2004 4:01:12 PM PST by Xenalyte (in memory of James Edward Peck, my grandfather, who passed on 3/23/04)
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To: Xenalyte
Really it seems we should be glad that a missing person was found ---- not raped, not stranged but alive and safe --- maybe not mentally perfect but it's good she was found and is alive.
405 posted on 04/02/2004 4:18:32 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Beren
Once again I'll ask.... What if this farce had gone to a lineup? What if Ms. Audrey decided that she was enjoying this attention? She has shown no reticence in building lie upon lie - what makes you think she wouldn't point out a 'perp'? My GOD PEOPLE! The false witness of a FELONY is a major offense in a civil society - we are talking about the liberty of the innocent being at risk.

I have learned the stories of people on this board who have family members with mental illness. These stories are heart wrenching, but also uplifting when I see how fellow freepers deal with such adversity and make the best of an extremely difficult situation whilst offering support to other people in similar dire straights.

This being said, if the woman were 30 and unattractive I bet there would be A LOT less sympathy for her. Think for a moment those of you that are immediately willing to assume she is "off the charts mentally ill" before you critisise those that take the equally likely opinion (given the facts as they are now) that she may just be a good 'ole fashion' liar. Point is, what is interesting are the reactions of ALL of us on this board to this story and to one another.

406 posted on 04/02/2004 4:20:35 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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To: bonfire
"She bought the items on Wednesday, the same day she was found." covering her butt. So the question remains; where was she?

Good question. In all likelyhood she was staying with someone in a private residence. If she were at a hotel or motel she would probably have been noticed. It's almost impossible to think that she were staying outside bc she would have got hypothermia. Perhaps our "Greta Garbo" found some "shed" or some makeshift area to sleep that protected her from the elements.

408 posted on 04/02/2004 4:28:08 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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To: Beren
I am of cynical mind also. Unfortunately or fortunately it's my nature. I believe that she is mentally ill....however there are degrees of mental illness, as there are degrees of punishment.
409 posted on 04/02/2004 4:31:52 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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To: Queen Jadis
This being said, if the woman were 30 and unattractive I bet there would be A LOT less sympathy for her.

Not necessarily --- I think it might be even more understandable --- the fact that she is attractive and an A student might make some less understanding, maybe there'd be more sympathy if she was a sad geeky looking girl with terrible grades.

410 posted on 04/02/2004 4:33:52 PM PST by FITZ
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To: wirestripper
would like to see her charged so that she can be placed in the system. Wisconsin has a pretty good one, I have been told. Her parents will not like it, but it is best for her. She needs intervention now.

A sad irony here her mother is a behavioral specialist and Audrey's Major is Communacative Disorders. YIKES!!!!!!!!!

411 posted on 04/02/2004 4:40:17 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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To: Queen Jadis
A sad irony here her mother is a behavioral specialist and Audrey's Major is Communacative Disorders. YIKES!!!!!!!!!

That is interesting, because my initial feeling about why she did this and what prompted this behavior was parental pressure.

The 4.0 av and other school stuff was what tripped my BS detector to begin with.

She wanted to get out of the situation and could not express this to anyone.

Add the chronic pressure and intelligence with the failure phobia and you have a big boom!(called schizophrenia or something close)

412 posted on 04/02/2004 6:32:46 PM PST by Cold Heat (Notice! Looking for a replacement lawyer with only one hand! (who can't say "on the other hand")
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To: wirestripper
Add to the mix that she only transferred to the University 6 months ago....that 4.0 average is something she probably had to keep up from the last school. I had a very intelligent friend way back about 20 years ago at UCLA she came from a conservative catholic sheltered family. She went to college and just could not handle Los Angeles in the eighties, (it was quite wild). She gained 50 lbs and transferred to a community college part time. Got a job and used the tuition money for her own "spending" money. She kept this up for 3 years without telling her parents. I think she ended up ok, but I suspect it's a mild version of what Audrey is going through.
413 posted on 04/02/2004 6:48:54 PM PST by Queen Jadis
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To: Queen Jadis; wirestripper; LisaMalia; Travis McGee
The more I read this thread, the more I do not understand what happened or why. I am glad I don't have to deal with it. I'm glad she's alive. I'm sad for everyone in her family but also glad....

My mom personally knows a family whose little girl was kidnapped when she was 6...she'd be 15 now if she's alive, but they do not know. There is something so sad about a 9 year age progression photograph.

http://www.morgannick.com/

Schizophrenia, acting out, I don't know what troubles Audrey, but she's alive and those who love her know where she is tonight. They've got a huge problem on their hands, but not a dead daughter. Maybe she's psychotic, schizophrenic. Maybe she's got the biggest mean streak a person can have. Most of us seem not to want to believe that. You can't take a pill for 'mean.' There's no med for 'cruel.'

The taxpayers are out some money, but there are worse causes...I'm glad that when one of us goes lost, the rest of us will drop what we're doing and try to find the missing, even though sometimes we're being duped.

One thing we can all be grateful for. We don't have to judge her and we don't have to try to fix her ourselves. It's a blessing we all have distance enough from this that the discussion is academic.


414 posted on 04/03/2004 12:41:38 AM PST by Triple Word Score (Meretriciousness Everywhere.)
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To: Triple Word Score
There are so many open questions here...
415 posted on 04/03/2004 6:54:41 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: rastus macgill
>Hey I challenge you to read most of Szasz's works and NOT become(or realise you are) a libertarian

A more intriguing
challenge is to read widely
into the backgrounds

of influential
individuals and groups
that shaped and still shape

libertarian
belief and practices, and
then ask yourself if

you "realize" what
"wisdom" you've been embracing . . .
(A person might think

that just as the 'Rats
use minorities, and as
some Republicans

use conservatives,
the deep "mover and shaker"
libertarians

are a very strange,
very old "activist" group
with an agenda

that's all their own, and
they just use free-thinking folk
with certain ideals ...)


416 posted on 04/03/2004 7:27:55 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: BonneBlue
I think you are right. I think, in her mind, it was either find a way to get out of her school without dissapointing everyone who knew her, especially her parents,

or killing herself.


I've known top achievers that opted for suicide when they couldn't keep up their "image".

Remember that old poem, "Richard Corey"?
417 posted on 04/03/2004 9:31:52 AM PST by SarahW
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To: SarahW
Richard Cory
by Edward Arlington Robinson

Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.
And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich - yes, richer than a king -
And admirably schooled in every grace;
In fine we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head
418 posted on 04/03/2004 9:36:14 AM PST by SarahW
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To: SarahW; Travis McGee
Right.

We're at the point where there is no longer a need for the matter to be highly public, and of course it won't be unless this was a "book deal" move...so we'll all be left with our assumptions and cynical frustration over being made a rube, and you can see that emotion is running all over the place. Some are sympathetic, many are angry. Imagine being more directly affected so that you have to deal with her yourself sometime!

But we'll never really know what this really was, more than likely, even if it's spun into some bizarre movie or book.

And if we can't stand not knowing, or let our hearts close up against the next victim, we really have lost something.
419 posted on 04/03/2004 10:01:46 AM PST by Triple Word Score (Meretriciousness Everywhere.)
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To: Triple Word Score
I speak for myself, but I want to know what happened and why.

At this link

http://www.madison.com/wisconsinstatejournal/local/71561.php


"Close family friend Sue Francis believes stress between Seiler and her boyfriend, Ryan Fisher, was the impetus of the young woman's actions. Seiler had continued to do well in college, she said, so it's not clear if educational stress played a part. <

Francis said she'd noticed that Seiler had dyed her blond-brown hair darker over time, but didn't see signs that she was becoming emotional fragile. "

I've been saying *I* think she wanted to be able to ditch her college with parental blessing. One reason could very well be the boyfriend.

He's taking the next semester off. Some panic of losing him might have prompted her actions.
420 posted on 04/03/2004 11:11:34 AM PST by SarahW
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To: theFIRMbss
Well the difference is libertarians do not wield much political power.(A conspiracy of libertarians? hahaha!)
As far as what I think you are alluding to--is there a problem with that?
Not in a free society.
421 posted on 04/03/2004 1:29:40 PM PST by rastus macgill
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To: Xenalyte
What happens if during the fair trial, the perp is adjudged not guilty?

They go free.

422 posted on 04/03/2004 4:22:48 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: SarahW
I heard something a little similar to what you posted, when watching local news reported about it - in northern Minnesota. Worlds apart, but we are next-door neighbors, ya know?

What I saw where I live, is when her attorney said, something to the effect as - get her the mental help she needs, and let her be.

Obviously, something is wrong, that she would do that!

Although, I think something like this should 'be an example' of what not to to....she apparently is a very smart young woman (GPA of >4.0), so she sure ain't stupid.

God only knows. JLO



423 posted on 04/03/2004 6:10:25 PM PST by JLO
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To: rastus macgill
>Well the difference is libertarians do not wield much political power. (A conspiracy of libertarians? hahaha!) As far as what I think you are alluding to--is there a problem with that? Not in a free society.

Well, don't get me wrong,
I'm not complaining, I'm just
explaining why I'm

not devoted to
this particular movement.
(Although I'd rather

party with Heinlein
fans than fans of The Passion.)
And I'm just not sure

about how much clout
libertarians do wield.
Certainly they seem

to be fringe players,
but is it real, or stage play?
(The dividend tax

issue was a strange
"episode." Someone managed
that bit of stage craft . . .)

424 posted on 04/04/2004 12:33:15 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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