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Pistol under pillow shoots sleeping man
Washington Times ^ | apr. 3 | unknown

Posted on 04/05/2004 6:49:21 PM PDT by dogbrain

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:41:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A man in Granite Falls, Wash., who slept with a pistol beneath his pillow woke up one morning last week to find the gun had gone off and shot him.

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported Saturday that the man, who was not identified, went to bed Thursday night with a loaded .22-caliber revolved tucked under his pistol. Sometime during the night, the gun discharged and shot him in the chest, but he apparently didn't realize he was wounded until he awoke early Friday.


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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; darwinaward; dream; guns; gunshot; inflicted; oops; pillow; realistic; realnightmare; self; shooting
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To: Shooter 2.5
The Webley-Fosbery IIRC was really an experiment -- I don't believe it was ever officially adopted (could be wrong about that though). They are very rare and VERY expensive assuming you can find one on the market.

I don't know if anyone ever converted one to .45 ACP, but I suppose it could have happened. Lord knows there are enough of the regular ones floating around.

151 posted on 04/06/2004 8:40:02 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: VadeRetro
One of the reasons it wasn't adopted (or never became popular) was the unreliability of the pawl mechanism for advancing the cylinder. Of course production costs were the main problem.

Continuing to use a top break system just shows how folks have trouble thinking outside the box.

152 posted on 04/06/2004 8:41:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Actually, quite a number of the old Webley .455s that GIs brought back from WWII were bored out to take .45 ACP rounds, held in place with half moon clips.

So it may have even been a true .45 Auto as in .45 ACP, although that's a 1941 movie.

I don't think there's any danger of me wanted to buy one of those just yet, although I bought an old Lee Enfield on an impulse like that. You see a piece of history on sale going begging ...

153 posted on 04/06/2004 8:42:47 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: AnAmericanMother
I can see where reliability issues would enter. Probably doesn't field strip like a 1911 either.
154 posted on 04/06/2004 8:45:10 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: AnAmericanMother
I can't spend anymore time on this until I get back for lunch but it was issued to the Royal Naval Air Service. Manufacturing was from 1901 to 1924 according to one book.
155 posted on 04/06/2004 9:06:50 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: VadeRetro; AnAmericanMother
My Mateba is the replacement. Interchangeable barrels from the six o'clock position.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Revolvers/Mateba_Model_6.htm
156 posted on 04/06/2004 9:09:18 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: VadeRetro
When I fire ten times and leave one hole, that's the story I use too. ;)

Seriously, I can make a single ragged hole at 100 yards with my Savage 10FV in .223...scoped and bagged. I took my Ruger 10/22 to the indoor range to try out a new set of Williams Firesight/peeps. It was only a 25 yard indoor range. I had 3 of 5 in the same hole. The other 2 rounds cut the edge of the main hole. Why so bad? Ask the goof with the beer gut in the adjacent stall. He slammed that puppy on the shelf and wiggled the tables all the way down.

157 posted on 04/06/2004 9:25:49 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: AnAmericanMother
"violated the fellow's civil rights"

Black guy?
158 posted on 04/06/2004 9:29:34 AM PDT by Bonny Dick
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To: Condor51
Yes, unfortunately cops & feds are only issued ball ammo. I am mainly referring to standard .22 or .38 special ball ammo because I know the deadly power of the more souped up cartridges like JHP and the standard ball is commonly used by criminals.
159 posted on 04/06/2004 9:56:24 AM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, Iraq. The home of savage Islamofacists!!!!)
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To: Bonny Dick
I refuse to answer on the grounds that the PC police might go round and harass my dad. :-D

(they would get more than they bargained for, he's pretty cantankerous, but that's another story.)

160 posted on 04/06/2004 9:57:42 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: VadeRetro
Because some of us enjoy putting 10 rounds through the same hole at 100 yards.

When I fire ten times and leave one hole, that's the story I use too. ;)

LOL. Me too. :=)

161 posted on 04/06/2004 10:23:42 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
They fired many shots at the two bank robbers who were not wearing Kevlar vests but the weak .38 special rounds just pissed the guys off.


There are many lessons to be drawn from that incident involving bankrobbers Platt and Matix (Google will provide details.)

The FBI spin was that they were "outgunned", like a poor carpenter blames his tools for his errors. In fact it was a major pooch screw tactically in too many ways to list. They mostly had 38s and 9mm pistols, but many had no backup gun, and no spare ammo for reloads. The agents initiated the incident, yet left their shotguns and kevlar in the cars unsecured. One agent left his backup gun on the car seat, and lost it when he bumped the perps' car. There was poor use of cover, and many misses. Some agents shot 29 rounds, and achieved only 1-2 hits each from short range. Injured agents were not practiced at one-handed shooting. One agent lost his eyeglasses, and was rendered blind (straps before a bust would make sense.) If the bad guys had a decent 308 instead of a 223, many more agents would have been killed, and the bad guys might have escaped alive.
162 posted on 04/06/2004 1:44:35 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
I know the Berretta M9 has a larger capacity why why did it replace the much more powerful Colt .45 in the US Army?


I recall that there was some political reason to make friends with Italy.
163 posted on 04/06/2004 1:48:33 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: dogbrain
with a loaded .22-caliber revolved tucked under his pistol.

I think the writer here was a drunk as the guy who slept through shooting himself in the chest.

164 posted on 04/06/2004 1:51:03 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Free pints in the Hobbit Hole for all monthly donors during the 'thon!)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
Ok, I just wasn't sure if you knew. Some of your other posts confused me a tad. No offense was meant at all. :-)
165 posted on 04/06/2004 4:37:53 PM PDT by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: dogbrain
I seldom post, but I can't resist this one! My house was broken into, it was bad, and I will not go into detail. But, one night, I was sleeping with my 45 mag and pulled the trigger in my sleep! LOL!

( I know full well that this is not funny)

Fortunately, it just blew a whole in the wall and there were no neighbors in direct line of the shot. ...... Lesson learned, when under stress, do not sleep with your weapon.

166 posted on 04/06/2004 5:01:33 PM PDT by mickeylee
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To: mickeylee
whole=hole
167 posted on 04/06/2004 5:04:51 PM PDT by mickeylee
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To: mickeylee
45 mag? What did you own, a Wildey or AMT?
168 posted on 04/06/2004 6:25:50 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Condor51
Do you know that in the 'old west', the most popular caliber was actually the .44-40, not the 45 Colt. . . [BIG SNIP] . . . Oh and for what it's worth, the Winchester was NEVER chambered in .45 Colt, but mostly 44-40.

Bingo!

That way one only needed to carry one type of ammo to feed both his side arm and long arm.

169 posted on 04/07/2004 8:20:24 AM PDT by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I always liked the Webley, at least from an historical perspective, although I've never fired one.
170 posted on 04/08/2004 5:16:37 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six
It's a funny old piece. Like the .45 ACP, the recoil is more of a "push" than a "kick". Because the revolver's so heavy, it's very easy to control. Considering the short barrel, it's fairly accurate, especially at close range (out to say 10 yards). At anything over about 25 yards it's essentially useless, it's a big heavy lead pill and the only thing you can shoot at that distance is worms.

But the really fun thing about it is that for some reason (short cylinder, large gap at forcing cone, burning qualities of Unique) it shoots huge jets of fire from the muzzle and the front of the cylinder. It looks like you're holding a Roman candle - people will turn around and stare.

171 posted on 04/08/2004 5:34:26 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: dogbrain
About 10 years ago there was a story of a fellow who went to sleep with his 22 revolver. Awakened in the middle of the night, he thought he saw an intruder. He pulled his revolver, took aim at the swaying shape, and promptly shot himself in the penis. His only comment following this incident was that he was glad he grabbed the 22 and not the 45. Evidently, the wound was not all that serious.
172 posted on 04/08/2004 5:35:35 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
"...Evidently, the wound was not all that serious."

Evidently, he had been married for some years...

173 posted on 04/08/2004 5:13:14 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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