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Pistol under pillow shoots sleeping man
Washington Times ^ | apr. 3 | unknown

Posted on 04/05/2004 6:49:21 PM PDT by dogbrain

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:41:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A man in Granite Falls, Wash., who slept with a pistol beneath his pillow woke up one morning last week to find the gun had gone off and shot him.

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported Saturday that the man, who was not identified, went to bed Thursday night with a loaded .22-caliber revolved tucked under his pistol. Sometime during the night, the gun discharged and shot him in the chest, but he apparently didn't realize he was wounded until he awoke early Friday.


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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; darwinaward; dream; guns; gunshot; inflicted; oops; pillow; realistic; realnightmare; self; shooting
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To: Savage Beast
He certainly is a sound sleeper.

I was thinking the same thing. Even if he had a .44 under his pillow, he'd probably sleep thru the need to use it.

OT - my father-in-law slept thru his roof getting blown off during a tornado. He woke up staring at the sky.

51 posted on 04/05/2004 7:56:09 PM PDT by scan58
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To: dogbrain
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction OR the blues.
52 posted on 04/05/2004 7:57:16 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: cyborg
The guy is lucky he didn't put his eye out

Tom

53 posted on 04/05/2004 7:57:17 PM PDT by fatboy
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To: fatboy
yep!
54 posted on 04/05/2004 7:57:41 PM PDT by cyborg (Frankenfreude radio death watch has commenced)
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To: dogbrain
I have always said one should never drink while you're trying to sleep...er.. sleep while you're trying to drink... er.. think while you're trying to shoot,sleep & drink .Burrrrp! I need a drink! Pass me that pillow full of Ole Colt 45.
55 posted on 04/05/2004 8:00:54 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck
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To: festus
"This is why you should never use a .22 to sleep with."

"I've did not have sex with that revolver....Ms. Pistol."

56 posted on 04/05/2004 8:01:44 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: mississippi red-neck
"Friends don't let friends sleep with friends."
57 posted on 04/05/2004 8:03:10 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
You have to be really unlucky to get killed by a .22, usually by severing a major blood vessel or penetrating a vital part of the brain.

That said, .22 short is even more anemic than .22 LR, it's hardly better than the old 'CB caps' that were used in the midway shooting galleries. In a rifle the bullet will develop more velocity and hence more impact energy.

But it's still nothing to write home about. As my dad says, "I hate like h##l to shoot a man and then stand there and argue with him."

Of course, my dad is the man who shot an escaping prisoner in the head with a .45 and did him no lasting harm. The guy had a really hard skull and was at extreme range when dad shot at his feet and hit him in the back of the head. Knocked him down and knocked him out but otherwise didn't hurt him. The bullet travelled around the top of his skull and lodged just at the hairline on his forehead. A few weeks later the AG showed up to investigate whether dad had violated the fellow's civil rights by shooting him (he hadn't. The guy was an American GI in the stockade accused of rape of an Italian civilian.)

58 posted on 04/05/2004 8:05:00 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
You're lucky. At that time we had our first newfie (Newfoundland--same type as won the Westmister this year) and she was blissfully on her back, all four in the air, snoring and running. She stayed there until two things happened. First, the cops showed up (alarm signal) and with them came the K9 "MOMMY THERE'S A BOY OUTSIDE!!!" And to her credit, second, once she realized that mommy was indeed really SCARED of something, she raced to her side and wouldn't leave her for a moment. 145 pounds of fur covered razor blade is a force when it wants to be. She has since passed and now we have our second newfie and this girl is much more ALERT and VOCAL.
59 posted on 04/05/2004 8:07:53 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot; boris
"I'd laugh if a guy pointed a weak-ass .22 or .38 Special pistol at me."

I would't be laughing at all.
Even having a .22 pointed at you is a seriesTM threat.
You can only hope it's REALLY far away, or REALLY close.

60 posted on 04/05/2004 8:13:49 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Let's not forget that the round our beloved M16 fires is little more than a "hopped up" .22.
61 posted on 04/05/2004 8:15:03 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: dogbrain
Should of been sleeping with a pitbull.
62 posted on 04/05/2004 8:15:13 PM PDT by kanawa (Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one.)
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To: ExSoldier
She's not your typical Lab. She's little (45 pounds), very alert, and quick as lightning. Her bark isn't very deep (she's clearly a soprano!) but her growl comes from somewhere down deep in her innards and is a scarey noise. (But she only growls at her tug toy and the UPS man.)


She won the first leg of her Agility Dog title on Saturday. < /brag >

63 posted on 04/05/2004 8:15:18 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I didn't think anyone can survive a .45 head shot; I thought even at the max range the guy would have had a shallow wound.
64 posted on 04/05/2004 8:16:37 PM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, home of savages!!!!)
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To: vaudine
I hate to be picky, but the Instructor in me is just screaming silently....it's NOT a clip, it's a magazine but we'll accept "mag" for short.
65 posted on 04/05/2004 8:17:41 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: kanawa
"Should of been sleeping with a pitbull."

...ah, no comment...

66 posted on 04/05/2004 8:18:10 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Pretty pup! Congrats! My girl is just a little over two and is recovering from ACL surgery on her left leg. Got any pics of the Sig P245?
67 posted on 04/05/2004 8:22:29 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: fatboy
The guy is lucky he didn't put his eye out

What makes you sure he didn't? He probably just hasn't noticed that yet.

68 posted on 04/05/2004 8:23:59 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: ExSoldier
Sorry Ex--I'm married to an ex-soldier and he instructed me how to use the gun, but I'm not very technical. It isn't language I use often. I guess I will have to get an extra mag, okay?

I do understand your frustration, as I'm an ex-English teacher. Sometimes bad usage just screams at me. I'm old enough, now, that I am able to ignore it most of the time.

vaudine
69 posted on 04/05/2004 8:27:35 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: BlackVeil
"Well your eyes are OK, now what about this other problem?"

I dunno Doc, I used to have two of 'em..."

70 posted on 04/05/2004 8:28:18 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: vaudine
Your forgiven in spades, this being that special weekend coming up. I'm a current social studies teacher and I married a soon to retire (well it may be a couple of years yet) English teacher. You know as well as I do that every discipline has it's own terminology and idioms/slang. You done good. lol sorry couldn't hep meself.
71 posted on 04/05/2004 8:33:22 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I was thinking that if he had put a round through that pillow with my Sig 226 he wouldn't have had to worry about intruders..........or anything else.
72 posted on 04/05/2004 8:36:16 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: dogbrain
The good thing about sleeping with a pistol under your pillow is that the least of your worries is that someone may come in from outside and shoot you. (Trying to think of a reason he slept this way)
73 posted on 04/05/2004 8:39:07 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: ExSoldier
Shelley the Wonder Dog turned 3 on March 1.

I don't have any pix of the Sig . . . nobody ever seems to have a camera handy at the range . . . everybody's too busy shooting and nobody wants to give up their spot on the line. :-D

Got any pix of your Newfie? When Shelley was a tiny pup and boarded at her trainer's, she was very obnoxious (she had been boss pup in a litter of 9) and when the bigger dogs started snarling at her for picking at them, she would run to the big Newfie and station herself under her belly where she was concealed by her long hair. (She could pick at the Newfie all she wanted. That dog didn't care, Shelley was like a small fly.)

74 posted on 04/05/2004 8:45:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
I sleep with a lit cigar in case I wake up in the middle of the night and want a smoke...
75 posted on 04/05/2004 8:45:32 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Got tons of newfie pics. Just don't have a digital camera. That teacher thing...low pay, etc. Someday, I'll get some pics put on a disc and then I'll be set.
76 posted on 04/05/2004 8:48:57 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: boris
Isn't it illegal? At the least it's immoral!
77 posted on 04/05/2004 8:53:40 PM PDT by TheDon (John Kerry, self proclaimed war criminal, Democratic Presidential nominee)
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To: AnAmericanMother
That reminds me of the joke ....

"A three legged dog limps into a saloon in the Old West. He slides up to the bar orders a whiskey and announces "I'm looking for the man who shot my paw!!"

78 posted on 04/05/2004 8:54:19 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: VadeRetro
Did he do something odd in his sleep? What?

Inquring minds want to know.

79 posted on 04/05/2004 8:55:26 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ExSoldier
Our printer died and our little photocopier was "on the verge," so my husband got a new printer-fax-copier-scanner for Christmas - the bare bones HPs are surprisingly inexpensive, and you can scan your ordinary pix right into the "my pictures" file and upload them. Works quite well.

The Wolf/Ritz Camera people have a very reasonable price for a disk when you have the film developed (before the negatives are cut). Problem is, you don't know how the pictures turned out until too late!

80 posted on 04/05/2004 8:55:54 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
Don't underestimate a .22LR. That caliber kills more people every year than the larger caliber rounds. A successful kill is more about placement than caliber. The .22LR is so small that placement is critical. Still, a round through the aorta will put you down. A .22LR to the head will "rattle around" and do much damage. I prefer a minimum 125 gr JHP in .357 mag.
81 posted on 04/05/2004 8:56:07 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: There's millions of'em; dogbrain
Pillows - let's outlaw them too.
82 posted on 04/05/2004 8:56:18 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"A three legged dog limps into a saloon in the Old West. He slides up to the bar orders a whiskey and announces "I'm looking for the man who shot my paw!!"

OMG! That old groaner is still making the rounds, I see.

Was the dog's name "Lucky"? (another old joke.)

83 posted on 04/05/2004 8:58:22 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; There's millions of'em
Never bring a pillow to a gunfight.

Never bring a gun to a pillowfight.

84 posted on 04/05/2004 9:00:25 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: Myrddin
"A .22LR to the head will "rattle around" and do much damage."

Unless, of course, there isn't anything to damage.

85 posted on 04/05/2004 9:02:19 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
Why are there even .22LR rifles?

Because some of us enjoy putting 10 rounds through the same hole at 100 yards. The .22LR is dirt cheap. You can pick up a 500 round brick for $10 and have a very pleasant day target shooting, plinking cans or hunting rabbits. The .22LR rifle is a great tool to become a fine marksman without trashing your budget.

86 posted on 04/05/2004 9:03:08 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: dogbrain
.........Thursday night with a loaded .22-caliber revolved.............

My Lord! It Was LOADED!
(Imagine That!)

87 posted on 04/05/2004 9:07:42 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Free Republic Freepathon: Become a Monthly Donor: "Give Till It Helps!" (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
I once read a "news" story about some criminal who was caught with a .22 caliber revolver. They played up that it was .22 Long Rifle caliber. Suddenly the gun morphs into something like a "repeat-fire long rifle." I kid you not. A little old revolver was written up to seem like an "assault rifle." Someone ignorant about guns would think it was a machine gun instead of a revolver of a small caliber.
88 posted on 04/05/2004 9:08:55 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Lol

Haven't had any more my-sibling's-been-sleeping-or-watching-TV-for-the past-year-but-hasn't moved stories lately.
What's happening?
89 posted on 04/05/2004 9:09:52 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( President Bush 3-20-04))
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To: Fiddlstix
the .22 wasn't the only thing "loaded" I'll bet...
90 posted on 04/05/2004 9:11:58 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Ah...but in my case they have to be MAC compatible. Teachers and Macs just seem to go together. I'll always have a Mac.
91 posted on 04/05/2004 9:19:57 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier
My silly husband has BOTH - on the same LAN.

He somehow makes it work - transfers pix back and forth through the LAN. (Mine not to question why, I just use it and call for him when it doesn't work.)

92 posted on 04/05/2004 9:22:19 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
This is why I hate those crazy liberal anti-gun zealots. They can't stand the 2nd Admendment and people defending themselves with guns. I can understand if they demonize an AK-47 in the media but I am sickened that they can make a weak revolver look like a RPG-7!
93 posted on 04/05/2004 9:23:29 PM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, home of savages!!!!)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
Holy crap!! If .22 caliber is so weak, then why do the liberally biased media always have stories about people getting killed by a .22 caliber pistol? Why are there even .22LR rifles?

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/VIIE8.html

If you copy and paste the above URL, then you'll find a list of the bullet weights, muzzle velocity and kinetic energy of most common ammunition. Those numbers are the result of the weight and shape of the projectile, the amount and type of powder in the cartridge and barrel length. A .22LR fired in a handgun will not develop as much velocity as if it was fired in a rifle, as the expanding gas doesn't have enough time to push the round down the barrel to impart the maximum velocity.

.22 short and .22 long are not good for much except target practice. .22 LR shot in rifles are usually more than enough for small game up to around 100 yards. A person shot in a vital organ at that range with a .22LR fired by a rifle is definitely in a world of hurt. .22 LR "Stinger" with hollow point projectiles can do considerable damage, likewise with the "Yellow Jackets" and "Vipers". Compare the numbers with the .25 cal, which is a centerfire round. Never waste your money on a .25 cal (semi)automatic handgun. The main virtue of small caliber handguns are small size, hence concealability, especially if you're in a knife fight.

If you feel the need for something bigger, then I would recommend .357 Magnum for a revolver, as you can fire .38 cal ammo in them, but not vice versa. Revolvers are more reliable than auto handguns, but autos almost always have a greater ammunition capacity. If you like autos, I wouldn't look at anything smaller than 9mm. Many folks believe it's too weak. .45 ACP is well respected for its stopping power. There are many other good rounds, but the ones that I mentioned are the most common, and therefore, more easily found at retailers.

94 posted on 04/05/2004 9:34:52 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: dogbrain
I saw a story about seven FBI agents back in 1986 or somewhere in the late '80s where they cornered TWO bank robbers armed with 5.56x45mm NATO-chambered Ruger Mini-14s. Five had weak .38 special S&W revolvers and two with Beretta 92FS and one with both a .38 and a shotgun. They fired many shots at the two bank robbers who were not wearing Kevlar vests but the weak .38 special rounds just pissed the guys off. All FBI agents got wounded, the one with a shotgun got hit in the hand and the two with Berrettas get killed because all their ammo was in the trunk and they were caught out of ammo in the chamber and the two guys calmly returns to their car. One .38 slug hit one of the robbers in the neck, paralyzing them while the other guy gets constantly hit in the chest but he still squeezes out rounds from his deadly Mini-14. The agent wounded in the arm with shotgun fired it with one hand, always missing. When the shotgun was empty, he took out his .38 revolver and he had to walk up to the car and emptied his revolver to finally kill both of them.

These two guys were big and they took multiple shots in the chest with .38 special slugs and it just seemed to pissed them off. This shows the pathetic stopping power of .38 special or lower and these weak-ass revolvers cost the lives of two FBI agents, ironically the ones with the 9mm Berrettas. In my liberal socialist hometown of Santa Cruz, many cops here still used .38 S&W revolvers but fortunately on a field trip my class visited the local police station, the cop who was my class' tour guide of the then new police station (2000) had a sick HK Mark-23 .45 ACP pistol and showed it to us (not passing it around of course.) You can see my animosity toward low-caliber guns but I just love the power of weapons like the Desert Eagle series, Kalashnikov series, M-16 series and many other famous guns.
95 posted on 04/05/2004 9:45:49 PM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, home of savages!!!!)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
Ya, like the reporter earlier this year who wrote about a man who shot two people with a replica of an 1862 Colt cap-n-ball revolver as though it was a machine gun: "...the six shooter can be fired six times without reloading!"
96 posted on 04/05/2004 9:48:20 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Proud member of P.O.O.P., People Offended by Offended People.)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
I saw a story about seven FBI agents back in 1986 or somewhere in the late '80s

My mistake. I was not even born yet in 1986. What I meant was that I heard of this incident that happened in 1986, a year before I was born by the way.
97 posted on 04/05/2004 9:50:47 PM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, home of savages!!!!)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
The .38 was the reason Browning developed the M1911.

After the incident you refer to, I believe the FBI chose a S&W .40 semi-auto for their standard issue.

Still, wouldn't want to have to look down a .38, or even a .22.

As someone has pointed out, bullet placement may be crucial, but would you really want to take the chance?

As far as the 9mm is concerned, I feel confident enough when carrying my HKP7.
Also, training and mindset should not to be ignored.

98 posted on 04/05/2004 9:53:01 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where democrats wash their hands....)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Ya, like the reporter earlier this year who wrote about a man who shot two people with a replica of an 1862 Colt cap-n-ball revolver as though it was a machine gun: "...the six shooter can be fired six times without reloading!"

That's pretty retarded since even a double-action revolver can't be fired at a rate of a semi-auto and it definitely doesn't sound like a machine gun when a semi auto is fired. Liberals are absolute morons who demonize any kind of gun. How nausiating.
99 posted on 04/05/2004 9:57:18 PM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, home of savages!!!!)
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To: dogbrain
I'd definitely love to own and fire a Colt M1911A1. I know the Berretta M9 has a larger capacity why why did it replace the much more powerful Colt .45 in the US Army?
100 posted on 04/05/2004 10:00:02 PM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, home of savages!!!!)
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